Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-28 Thread matusz
Hi! Please ask the guys biding for 2025. I'm sure some of them could organize debconf24. On rhe other hand I would think twice to organize debconf24 in other places than Haifa. There is plenty of time (9-10 months) until debconf 24 Haifa would happen. br, dezső dénes Antonio Terceiro schrieb am

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi Matusz, On 10/29/23 00:06, matusz wrote: On rhe other hand I would think twice to organize debconf24 in other places than Haifa. There is plenty of time (9-10 months) until debconf 24 Haifa would happen. When we discussed, with a few friends, about Debconf in Israel in 2018 in Brazil (in

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
Hi, Probably this isn't a popular opinion, but If you're thinking to host DebConf24, I suggest you don't organize 2 weeks of event (DebCamp + DebConf). Considering the shorter time, If I was you, I wouldn't organize DebCamp. DebCamp is nice, it's great to have people earlier, but it's too muc

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Daniel Lenharo
I completely agree. It would be an exception to DC 24, and there is no reason to have an extra workload. Leave a few days in advance only for those who will assist in the infrastructure (video-team, FD). Em 30/10/2023 12:57, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana escreveu: Hi, Probably this isn't a p

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi Paulo (2023.10.30_15:57:51_+) > Considering the shorter time, If I was you, I wouldn't organize DebCamp. > DebCamp is nice, it's great to have people earlier, but it's too much work > before the main event. Interesting to hear you say that. I have exactly the opposite view of DebCamp. It ma

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
While I sympathize with paulo's concerns, I would like to add that during (and subsequent discussions at) our bof about debconfs and the climate crisis at dc23, I heard several people saying that they would think twice before going far away to a debconf for just a few days. And from what I understo

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Orendra Singh
I think DebCamp is way more interesting in terms of where you can learn which part of the event you can help others. Only a few participants attend during the starting days. You are more likely to interact with many individuals and help them. Rather than just part of Rush attending talks and not ha

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Judit Foglszinger
I'm also very much in favour of having a debcamp. This year it was really impressive with so many people being around, getting to know and learning from each other. It really would be a loss to not have it. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
Hi, Just to be clear: I agree with all points you all have listed here about DebCamp :-) But, for 2024, with less months to organize, I think would be good remove this workload from Local Team. Or at least, would be good people know that isn't mandatory organizing 2 weeks of event, right?

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi Paulo (2023.10.30_20:08:29_+) > But, for 2024, with less months to organize, I think would be good remove > this workload from Local Team. Or at least, would be good people know that > isn't mandatory organizing 2 weeks of event, right? I do worry that DebConf keeps getting bigger and more

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Judit Foglszinger
> > But, for 2024, with less months to organize, I think would be good remove > > this workload from Local Team. Or at least, would be good people know that > > isn't mandatory organizing 2 weeks of event, right? > > I do worry that DebConf keeps getting bigger and more complex. Things > only get

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 09:24:29PM +, Stefano Rivera wrote: > > But it doesn't need to be like that. *Nothing* is mandatory, we'd love > to see bids that want to change things up! > > Stefano > > -- In all of this - and completely independently of the geopolitical situation - I'd like to

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread gregor herrmann
On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 21:24:29 +, Stefano Rivera wrote: > Hi Paulo (2023.10.30_20:08:29_+) > > But, for 2024, with less months to organize, I think would be good remove > > this workload from Local Team. Or at least, would be good people know that > > isn't mandatory organizing 2 weeks of ev

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Judit Foglszinger
I'd like to add - of course any bid for an in-person for 2024 is better than an "online" debconf, and depending, how things continue, next year we might need to compromise on things we'd rather not :( signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Judit Foglszinger
> If we had only 1 week instead of 2, personally I'd prefer a week of > DebCamp over a week of DebConf. What about two weeks debcamp? :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Wookey
On 2023-10-31 01:13 +0100, Judit Foglszinger wrote: > I'd like to add - of course any bid for an in-person for 2024 is better than > an "online" debconf Not from an emissions point of view it isn't. Wookey -- Principal hats: Debian, Wookware, ARM http://wookware.org/ signature.asc Descripti

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Sruthi Chandran
On 30 October 2023 11:36:33 pm IST, Stefano Rivera wrote: >Hi Paulo (2023.10.30_15:57:51_+) >> Considering the shorter time, If I was you, I wouldn't organize DebCamp. >> DebCamp is nice, it's great to have people earlier, but it's too much work >> before the main event. > >Interesting to h

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-31 Thread Ananthu C V
Attending my first debconf this year, DebCamp allowed me to fit in slowly. It was a good occasion to get to know many people and learn things from a lot of them, which otherwise would have been more difficult with the DebConf part being much busier. Another thing I noticed is that, as Stefano and S

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-31 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 09:24:29PM +, Stefano Rivera wrote: > Hi Paulo (2023.10.30_20:08:29_+) > > But, for 2024, with less months to organize, I think would be good remove > > this workload from Local Team. Or at least, would be good people know that > > isn't mandatory organizing 2 weeks

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-31 Thread Krishnadev P Melevila
How to unsubscribe from this maillist? On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 4:29 PM Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 09:24:29PM +, Stefano Rivera wrote: > > Hi Paulo (2023.10.30_20:08:29_+) > > > But, for 2024, with less months to organize, I think would be good > remove > > > this work

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-31 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 10:13:25AM +0530, Sruthi Chandran wrote: [...] > If the constraint for any team willing to bid for DC24 is only the team size, > I would express my interest to be "remote" local orga member (1-2 more Indian > team members might also join). Less than 10 months is not enoug

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-31 Thread Jathan
I agree with you Sruthi. If more people help as remote local orga members, sure that will be very helpful to make it possible DebCamp and DebConf as always, Regards Jathan 30 Oct 2023 23:00:19 Sruthi Chandran : > If the constraint for any team willing to bid for DC24 is only the team size, > I

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-31 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hey Tiago On 2023/10/31 13:43, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote: That said, I'd strongly support your remote help for DC24, or a nomination to DC committee, or who knows, a DPL run :-) Your nomination to the DC committee is too late! Sruthi is already a member of the DebConf committee :-) https:/

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-31 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 06:33:51PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: > Hey Tiago > > On 2023/10/31 13:43, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote: > > That said, I'd strongly support your remote help for DC24, or a nomination > > to DC committee, or who knows, a DPL run :-) > > Your nomination to the DC committe

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-11-02 Thread Zlatan Todoric
On 10/31/23 01:17, Judit Foglszinger wrote: If we had only 1 week instead of 2, personally I'd prefer a week of DebCamp over a week of DebConf. What about two weeks debcamp? :) You're not the first one suggesting this over the years. :) I really appreciate that DebConf is two weeks long, be

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-11-02 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Zlatan Todoric] > Maybe some re-organization needs to happen for DebConf part to feel it > more relaxed, maybe more ad-hoc with shorter sessions that are then > encouraged to go into longer sessions in rooms/hacklabs, but please keep > the DebCamp part. :) Perhaps Debconf is better as a https:

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-11-02 Thread Badri Sunderarajan
On Thu, Nov 2 2023 at 10:04:53 AM +01:00:00 +01:00:00, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: Perhaps Debconf is better as a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconference> >? Debconf is Debconf; it doesn't require any other labels to describe it ;) But yes, I know you were not talking about the label. I

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-11-02 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 2023/11/02 11:04, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: Perhaps Debconf is better as a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconference >? As far as Unconferences go, DebConf is already an Unconference (many events that call themselves "Unconferences" are already way more formal than DebConf... I guess th

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-11-02 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 02:41:41PM +0530, Badri Sunderarajan wrote: > Debconf is Debconf; it doesn't require any other labels to describe it ;) This. -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-11-02 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, To help people contact potential venues, it would be useful to have estimates of the requirements. For example, for a DebConf in Europe, could someone provide guesstimates for: A) minimal/ideal capacity for on-site accomodation B) minimal/ideal capacity during the day (= (A) + people with of

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-11-02 Thread Judit Foglszinger
> I really appreciate that DebConf is two weeks long, because for me not > only it added a slow(er) move towards the week with talks, but also it > gives you opportunity to get integrated and feel the community. > > That is what, for me personally, separates DebConfs from many other > conferenc

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-11-02 Thread Sruthi Chandran
On 02/11/23 15:40, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Hi, To help people contact potential venues, it would be useful to have estimates of the requirements. For example, for a DebConf in Europe, could someone provide guesstimates for: A) minimal/ideal capacity for on-site accomodation B) minimal/ideal cap

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-11-02 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Tiago Bortoletto Vaz dijo [Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 07:43:59AM -0400]: > Sruthi, you and the local team did an impressive work on DC23. And everytime I > looked at you people, you had a peaceful expression and a smile on your face, > regardless of the circumstances. In my silent observation, I learned

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-11-02 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana dijo [Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 12:57:51PM -0300]: > Hi, > > Probably this isn't a popular opinion, but If you're thinking to host > DebConf24, I suggest you don't organize 2 weeks of event (DebCamp + > DebConf). > > Considering the shorter time, If I was you, I wouldn't

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-11-02 Thread Christoph Biedl
Lucas Nussbaum wrote... > To help people contact potential venues, it would be useful to have > estimates of the requirements. Indeed. Some of these number are already given in the Wiki at , the remaining should be added. P