Re: [Debconf-team] Spending Debian money on travel sponsorship (was: Timeline changes proposal for DC16)

2015-08-25 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 25/08/15 at 15:24 +0200, martin f krafft wrote: During early DC15 discussions, you didn't want to set aside even as much as 5k for our idea of assured travel sponsorship. We ended up boosting the travel sponsorship budget by 3k out of our own cash flow. Bursaries worked within this budget,

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Martín Ferrari
On 25/08/15 16:40, Richard Hartmann wrote: Random thought: With that level of cash-flow, we could simply rent the infrastructure DSA was talking about in their BoF instead of looking for sponsors. As I said in person multiple times, I think having dependable equipment that infra and video

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Margarita Manterola
Hey everyone, Thanks a lot for the interest and the support shown in this thread. It does seem that we are mostly in agreement regarding the timeline. It seems that we mostly need a better name for pre-registration, and there are some doubts about the month for bursaries being or not enough time

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread René Mayorga
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 08:10:13AM +0200, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: Hola :) On 24 Aug 2015, at 23:48, Margarita Manterola margamanter...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding talks (…) This year we had the submission deadline in the middle of the reconfirmation process, which meant that

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Lucas Nussbaum lu...@debian.org writes: From past experience, the bursaries needs more than one months. The important part is travel sponsorship, especially for Cape Town, and this take much time. But let’s see commentary of bursaries team. (OTOH on your timeline, we have 2 months

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Richard Hartmann
Fully agreed with Marga and Gaudenz' replies. Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity. ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team

Re: [Debconf-team] Post-DebConf sentiments, good ones!

2015-08-25 Thread Laura Arjona Reina
On 25 de agosto de 2015 07:55:42 GMT+02:00, Christian PERRIER bubu...@debian.org wrote: Quoting martin f krafft (madd...@debconf.org): Dear team, Mind me going a bit sentimental, you know, post-DebConf depression and all… ;) Yes, be sentimental, you deserve it. All involved people deserve

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Philip Hands
Gaudenz Steinlin gaud...@debian.org writes: Giacomo Catenazzi c...@debian.org writes: Hello Marga, On 24 Aug 2015, at 23:48, Margarita Manterola margamanter...@gmail.com wrote: (…) The pre-registration period is for people that are requesting sponsorship or submitting event proposals.

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
Hello Marga, On 24 Aug 2015, at 23:48, Margarita Manterola margamanter...@gmail.com wrote: (…) The pre-registration period is for people that are requesting sponsorship or submitting event proposals. They would only express their intent on going to DebConf (and DebCamp if applicable) and

Re: [Debconf-team] Post-DebConf sentiments, good ones!

2015-08-25 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting martin f krafft (madd...@debconf.org): Dear team, Mind me going a bit sentimental, you know, post-DebConf depression and all… ;) Yes, be sentimental, you deserve it. All involved people deserve it. From far away, I witnessed a great conference and an incredibly smooth organisation.

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 12:38:34PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: I would even consider *not* calling it pre-registration, as that is too close to registration. Maybe enrollment instead? Other conferences just require that you have an account to submit proposals or request sponsorship. Why

[Debconf-team] DebConf budgeting (was: Spending Debian money on travel sponsorship)

2015-08-25 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Lucas Nussbaum lu...@debian.org [2015-08-25 17:13 +0200]: That's just wrong. I'm sorry, re-reading my last mail, I noticed I pointed a finger at you, which was not my intention, and I also don't really want to talk about the past. I've also made plenty of mistakes, especially

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach René Mayorga rmayo...@debian.org [2015-08-25 09:52 +0200]: I agree with cate here, if you only submit a talk just for the sake to be consider for travel sponsorship you are putting more burden to talk selection. But isn't harder talk selection actually something to strive for,

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
Hello Gaudenz, On 25.08.2015 09:11, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: Giacomo Catenazzi c...@debian.org writes: Hello Marga, On 24 Aug 2015, at 23:48, Margarita Manterola margamanter...@gmail.com wrote: (...) When the registration period opens, everyone needs to fill in all their registration

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Giacomo Catenazzi c...@debian.org [2015-08-25 08:10 +0200]: or people registering because we tell them to, but then never reconfirming, because they don't intend to attend anymore. I don’t follow it. I think we will have the same problem with people not registering but with

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
On 25.08.2015 10:26, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 25/08/15 at 09:11 +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: One month for bursaries is tight, but doable if we are well prepared. 1 1/2 months would be better. It mostly needs someone to drive the process as David did it this year. At the bursaries Bof we

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 25/08/15 at 09:11 +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: or people registering because we tell them to, but then never reconfirming, because they don't intend to attend anymore. I don’t follow it. I think we will have the same problem with people not registering but with preregistration.

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 25/08/15 at 10:42 +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: Lucas Nussbaum lu...@debian.org writes: From past experience, the bursaries needs more than one months. The important part is travel sponsorship, especially for Cape Town, and this take much time. But let’s see commentary of

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Giacomo Catenazzi c...@debian.org [2015-08-25 11:35 +0200]: Most of people with pre-registration are sponsored people. Other people tend to register late, many non-sponsored attendes also after (old) reconfirmation (and this was one source of complain). This is true especially for

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 25/08/15 at 11:37 +0200, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: On 25.08.2015 10:26, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 25/08/15 at 09:11 +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: One month for bursaries is tight, but doable if we are well prepared. 1 1/2 months would be better. It mostly needs someone to drive the

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Lucas Nussbaum lu...@debian.org [2015-08-25 10:26 +0200]: This sounds wrong to me. For me, the role of bursaries is to decide, for a specific attendee, if s/he should be sponsored to attend or not. That's a yes/no question (a hard one, but still). If you end up needing more budget

[Debconf-team] Spending Debian money on travel sponsorship (was: Timeline changes proposal for DC16)

2015-08-25 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Lucas Nussbaum lu...@debian.org [2015-08-25 11:48 +0200]: Note: food and accommodation is really a yes/no. But travel sponsorship, which requires a lot more money, is much more difficult. We will not have enough money, IMHO, for most of the requests. Really? Debian

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
Hello Lucas, On 25.08.2015 11:48, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 25/08/15 at 11:37 +0200, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: Note: food and accommodation is really a yes/no. But travel sponsorship, which requires a lot more money, is much more difficult. We will not have enough money, IMHO, for most of the

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Lucas Nussbaum lu...@debian.org wrote: But, for example, compare https://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/sponsors and https://www.debian.org/partners/) Tossing this onto -project may detoriate quickly, but those numbers should be discussed at some point.