Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

also sprach Bernelle Verster [2015-08-27 21:52 +1200]: > I've adapted the thread onto our Timeline [1], and copied relevant > bits below. […] Hey, I missed the original e-mail, sorry about this. I think the general timeline you propose looks good. There are a few comments,

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

Hi all I'm supposed to be on holiday and offline, but I've started having dreams about this thread, so... I've adapted the thread onto our Timeline [1], and copied relevant bits below. I resisted the temptation to put this onto the wider timeline [2] as well, so we can test it first. Comments

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

On 25/08/15 16:40, Richard Hartmann wrote: Random thought: With that level of cash-flow, we could simply rent the infrastructure DSA was talking about in their BoF instead of looking for sponsors. As I said in person multiple times, I think having dependable equipment that infra and video

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

Hey everyone, Thanks a lot for the interest and the support shown in this thread. It does seem that we are mostly in agreement regarding the timeline. It seems that we mostly need a better name for pre-registration, and there are some doubts about the month for bursaries being or not enough time

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 08:10:13AM +0200, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: Hola :) On 24 Aug 2015, at 23:48, Margarita Manterola margamanter...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding talks (…) This year we had the submission deadline in the middle of the reconfirmation process, which meant that

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

Lucas Nussbaum lu...@debian.org writes: From past experience, the bursaries needs more than one months. The important part is travel sponsorship, especially for Cape Town, and this take much time. But let’s see commentary of bursaries team. (OTOH on your timeline, we have 2 months

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

Fully agreed with Marga and Gaudenz' replies. Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity. ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

Gaudenz Steinlin gaud...@debian.org writes: Giacomo Catenazzi c...@debian.org writes: Hello Marga, On 24 Aug 2015, at 23:48, Margarita Manterola margamanter...@gmail.com wrote: (…) The pre-registration period is for people that are requesting sponsorship or submitting event proposals.

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

Hello Marga, On 24 Aug 2015, at 23:48, Margarita Manterola margamanter...@gmail.com wrote: (…) The pre-registration period is for people that are requesting sponsorship or submitting event proposals. They would only express their intent on going to DebConf (and DebCamp if applicable) and

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 12:38:34PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: I would even consider *not* calling it pre-registration, as that is too close to registration. Maybe enrollment instead? Other conferences just require that you have an account to submit proposals or request sponsorship. Why

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

also sprach René Mayorga rmayo...@debian.org [2015-08-25 09:52 +0200]: I agree with cate here, if you only submit a talk just for the sake to be consider for travel sponsorship you are putting more burden to talk selection. But isn't harder talk selection actually something to strive for,

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

Hello Gaudenz, On 25.08.2015 09:11, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: Giacomo Catenazzi c...@debian.org writes: Hello Marga, On 24 Aug 2015, at 23:48, Margarita Manterola margamanter...@gmail.com wrote: (...) When the registration period opens, everyone needs to fill in all their registration

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

also sprach Giacomo Catenazzi c...@debian.org [2015-08-25 08:10 +0200]: or people registering because we tell them to, but then never reconfirming, because they don't intend to attend anymore. I don’t follow it. I think we will have the same problem with people not registering but with

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

On 25.08.2015 10:26, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 25/08/15 at 09:11 +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: One month for bursaries is tight, but doable if we are well prepared. 1 1/2 months would be better. It mostly needs someone to drive the process as David did it this year. At the bursaries Bof we

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

On 25/08/15 at 09:11 +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: or people registering because we tell them to, but then never reconfirming, because they don't intend to attend anymore. I don’t follow it. I think we will have the same problem with people not registering but with preregistration.

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

On 25/08/15 at 10:42 +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: Lucas Nussbaum lu...@debian.org writes: From past experience, the bursaries needs more than one months. The important part is travel sponsorship, especially for Cape Town, and this take much time. But let’s see commentary of

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

also sprach Giacomo Catenazzi c...@debian.org [2015-08-25 11:35 +0200]: Most of people with pre-registration are sponsored people. Other people tend to register late, many non-sponsored attendes also after (old) reconfirmation (and this was one source of complain). This is true especially for

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

On 25/08/15 at 11:37 +0200, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: On 25.08.2015 10:26, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 25/08/15 at 09:11 +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: One month for bursaries is tight, but doable if we are well prepared. 1 1/2 months would be better. It mostly needs someone to drive the

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

also sprach Lucas Nussbaum lu...@debian.org [2015-08-25 10:26 +0200]: This sounds wrong to me. For me, the role of bursaries is to decide, for a specific attendee, if s/he should be sponsored to attend or not. That's a yes/no question (a hard one, but still). If you end up needing more budget

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

Hello Lucas, On 25.08.2015 11:48, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 25/08/15 at 11:37 +0200, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: Note: food and accommodation is really a yes/no. But travel sponsorship, which requires a lot more money, is much more difficult. We will not have enough money, IMHO, for most of the

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Lucas Nussbaum lu...@debian.org wrote: But, for example, compare https://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/sponsors and https://www.debian.org/partners/) Tossing this onto -project may detoriate quickly, but those numbers should be discussed at some point.

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

I don't always top-post, but when I do it's to say I agree 100%. Michael On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:48:14PM +0200, Margarita Manterola wrote: We talked a bit about this during the DebConf Sprint that we had during DebCamp and my feeling was that there was rough consensus about it. I'm

[Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

We talked a bit about this during the DebConf Sprint that we had during DebCamp and my feeling was that there was rough consensus about it. I'm sending it team-wide now, as a request for comments. The main change that I'm proposing is renaming our original registration period to pre-registration

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

also sprach Michael Banck mba...@debian.org [2015-08-25 00:05 +0200]: I don't always top-post, but when I do it's to say I agree 100%. So do I! ;) -- .''`. martin f. krafft madd...@debconf.org @martinkrafft : :' : DebConf orga team `. `'` `- DebConf16: Cape Town: