Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

On 12/31/2021 4:42 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: John, You say in Mate we have other methods of configuring it. I'm talking about configuring it in console, even if MATE is installed. What is that way of configuring, In headless you can only use the console (see below). In headless, there i

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Hello, For information, an a11y-related bug report. There were some follow-ups through the BTS already, with some logs. Cheers, -- Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org) D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant --- Begin Message --- Package

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acbradio now has a youtube channel available for subscription too. On Sat, 1 Jan 2022, Jeffery Mewtamer wrote: > Following the link gives me an invalid certificate error in Firefox, > ignoring the warning brings me to the so long message, but removing > the s from https brings me to a page that

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Following the link gives me an invalid certificate error in Firefox, ignoring the warning brings me to the so long message, but removing the s from https brings me to a page that says ACB Radio is now part of ACB Media and provides the following address to the new website: https://www.acbmedia.org

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The android program to download is acb link or by now maybe that's also gone. On Fri, 31 Dec 2021, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > It now says "so long" - I guess it's all gone. > > DR > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 6:19 PM Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > https://www.acbradio.org/ is the starting point. It'

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I have no idea what happened there. On Fri, 31 Dec 2021, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > It now says "so long" - I guess it's all gone. > > DR > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 6:19 PM Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > https://www.acbradio.org/ is the starting point. It's a radio station and > > can be listened

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It now says "so long" - I guess it's all gone. DR On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 6:19 PM Jude DaShiell wrote: > https://www.acbradio.org/ is the starting point. It's a radio station and > can be listened to on the internet and with android and iphone apps but > the current programs play. The main me

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https://www.acbradio.org/ is the starting point. It's a radio station and can be listened to on the internet and with android and iphone apps but the current programs play. The main menu channel is the one for technical information and treasure trove has old-time radio programs. On Fri, 31 Dec

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It's a series of podcasts that can be downloaded. On Fri, 31 Dec 2021, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > Is this acbradio, a podcast, radio program, linux application, or what? > > acbradio has a main menu program and a large archive of programs from main > menu available for download. > > > > On Fri, D

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Is this acbradio, a podcast, radio program, linux application, or what? acbradio has a main menu program and a large archive of programs from main menu available for download. On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 3:26 PM Jude DaShiell wrote: > acbradio has a main menu program and a large archive of progra

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

Sometimes report-bug will find the right list for you and running report-bug will get the report in in the correct format. Only thing is, you need to already have an smtp transport package working first since report-bug will use that to send your report. On Fri, 31 Dec 2021, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wro

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acbradio has a main menu program and a large archive of programs from main menu available for download. One of them has a debian install demonstration in it and another one has a slackware demonstration install in it. It will not be easy to find them either but they're some of the earlier program

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

To unsubscribe from any debian list send an email to: listname-requ...@lists.debian.org with the subject of unsubscribe. To subscribe do the same thing but use a subject of subscribe. You'd want to use debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe to do what you're

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

ok how do I unsubscribe On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 6:14 PM Chime Hart wrote: > Well DJ, why not just type "reportbug" followed by the name of package? > I've > had fairly good luck over the years, at least having my concerns be heard. > I > think the most trouble I had was having the program send m

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

Well DJ, why not just type "reportbug" followed by the name of package? I've had fairly good luck over the years, at least having my concerns be heard. I think the most trouble I had was having the program send my request through a remote server. Chime

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

I agree, one of the difficulties with reporting bugs and suggestions for a non-technical person with Debian is finding the list that handles the problems. Ubuntu has a system "Bug Squad" that, like a hospital emergency room, let's people search for a similar bug, if one is found, allow the person

Tutorial wasRe: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

Hi everyone Happy New Year to you all. I am really enjoying this discussion and also found it fascinating. I would like to use the command line more and while I have some experience with it much of what is being discussed here goes over my head. I am wondering if there are any tutorials availa

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

On 31/12/2021 18:35, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Perhaps we can just dump the wiki page > > http://wiki.debian.org/accessibility > > somewhere in the installed system? If going this way I suggest to also ship the good ol' w3m in the installer to read the relevant part during installation, as it is

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

Samuel Thibault, le ven. 31 déc. 2021 18:50:07 +0100, a ecrit: > D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le ven. 31 déc. 2021 12:40:39 -0500, a ecrit: > > I thought your reluctance to go there was related to poor treatment > > instead of what it most likely is, "too darned many things to > > accomplish". > > No it's re

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le ven. 31 déc. 2021 12:40:39 -0500, a ecrit: > I thought your reluctance to go there was related to poor treatment > instead of what it most likely is, "too darned many things to > accomplish". No it's really that I cannot do everything in debian-accessibility longterm-wise. The

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

Chris, To unsubscribe from any debian list send an email to: listname-requ...@lists.debian.org with the subject of unsubscribe. To subscribe do the same thing but use a subject of subscribe. You'd want to use debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe to do what

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

Thanks, now there's less reason for fear. I thought your reluctance to go there was related to poor treatment instead of what it most likely is, "too darned many things to accomplish". Good news for all, especially that they pushed to keep a feature that "TAP" type people - "Temporarily Able Peopl

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le ven. 31 déc. 2021 12:25:59 -0500, a ecrit: > One way would be to have a text file pointing out the accessibility features - > perhaps similar to Didier Spaier's excellent slint-docs Perhaps we can just dump the wiki page http://wiki.debian.org/accessibility somewhere in the

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le ven. 31 déc. 2021 12:11:14 -0500, a ecrit: > Obviously, we are more civilized on this email list, but it seems that > Debian-Boot is the wild and wooly frontier where new suggestions are met with > barbs and malice. ? No. Really no. The beep-at-installer-boot-menu took some e

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

Jeffery Mewtamer wrote: > anyone have a link for joining the Debian Boot mailing list? Like all Debian lists: https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/ Samuel

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

I'm just suggesting that a text type of network manager be initially configured and running the very same settings that were used and were set up by the installation program which very excellently by the way, tells you which network connections you have, and if there is encryption on WiFi actually

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

I'm not convinced making mouse controls more accessible is really all that important. The problem with some GUI applications isn't so much the need to precisely move a cursor and click on tiny icons or in this age where everyone assumes everyone has a smartphone, precisely tap on tiny icons, but th

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

Sorry, I'm flooded with emails. Can you remove me from this list, please? On Fri, 31 Dec 2021, at 5:11 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > I'll introduce the discussion, I'd rather not have someone as worthy as you > be shot up on Debian-Boot email list. > > Obviously, we are more civilized on this

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

I'll introduce the discussion, I'd rather not have someone as worthy as you be shot up on Debian-Boot email list. Obviously, we are more civilized on this email list, but it seems that Debian-Boot is the wild and wooly frontier where new suggestions are met with barbs and malice. Sounds like a ret

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

Wi-Fi can be a bit finicky, both with ensuring you have the right driver and configuration(there really ought to be a script that scans for available access points, presents a menu of the detected access points, and prompts for apassword if needed instead of having to either bake wi-fi networks int

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

Hello, D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le ven. 31 déc. 2021 10:12:43 -0500, a ecrit: > The network-manager package should be installed by default to ANY installation Well, not "any". Again, that's where *discussion* needs to be done. And not here, but where such discussions belong: with the people who know ab

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

gnome, the 800 pound gorilla of desktop systems. Pandemic memory prices have gone up and lighter memory systemsmay not be able to take a visit from our gorilla. On Fri, 31 Dec 2021, john doe wrote: > On 12/31/2021 4:12 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > > The network-manager package should be instal

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

Mouse accessibility stinks no matter on what operating system it exists. Icons are too small too numerous on a screen and haven't got standard screen positions either. If those three problems could be fixed then mouse accessibility would get workable. Say putting at most 9 mouse icons on any given

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

John, You say in Mate we have other methods of configuring it. I'm talking about configuring it in console, even if MATE is installed. What is that way of configuring, you don't mean starting up MATE which is what I wanted to avoid. It's like starting up a major load on the computer (MATE) just

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

On 12/31/2021 4:12 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: The network-manager package should be installed by default to ANY installation of Debian perhaps even along with the basic system prior to software selection - so that using the undocumented "!" software selection (it should be documented right in th

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

The network-manager package should be installed by default to ANY installation of Debian perhaps even along with the basic system prior to software selection - so that using the undocumented "!" software selection (it should be documented right in the installer itself to produce a working command l

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I mean, I use Emacs and such, but I'm trying to get into the CLI more too. That and Python. I just wish Debian already had Python 3.10, but I was able to compile it from source. I'm doing this on a Chromebook through Crostini, so I have to use Stable, since the bridge between Crostini and ChromeOS,

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Adding the word "exclusive" makes it clear to me, just as this reply was with that word added. Booting into the CLI reminds the user of the simple but tremendous power of their computer that lies underneath the beautiful graphical interface, poised to instantly respond to the keystrokes of their f

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

Hi Mike and all,, also you can use w3m as both a web browser and a pager, so it allows to read documentation it text format as remote and local web pages. You can also use lynx as Chime wrote, and allo links. Also you can use several consoles at the same time, allowing for instance to read the d

Re: Fwd: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

David, I meant that nobody should have an exclusive choice, i.e. anyone should be allowed to use both a console and a graphical environment (possibly at the same time), not being limited to the mode of operation the used first after booting. Cheers, Didier On 31/12/2021 02:16, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. w