Re: miniDebConf talk for Cambridge - October 2024?

Hi Andrew, On 19-09-2024 22:46, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Seeking the thoughts of the community here as to whether this might be an appropriate topic. Not as a user of a11y, but as a DD that cares, I still feel addressed by the presentation that Samuel gave in Heidelberg: https://summit.debc

Re: I Am Trying to File A Bug?

Hi, On 01-02-2024 04:51, Chime Hart wrote: Hi All: As I was working through reportbug, it asks me for tags? Well, no matter how I write them, it says "invalid entry" In the man-page it either shows --T or -T=  Maybe instead of a cryptic "invalid entry" it would be more helpful mentioning what

Re: Installed Bookworm on my Lenovo P360 Tiny Workstation. Wifi Commically slow!

Hi, On 11-07-2023 04:28, Al Puzzuoli wrote: Um… Help?! Anyone have any ideas what might be going on? Have you looked in the system logs for signs of misbehavior? E.g. $ sudo journalctl --boot Paul OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: How is unstable for dayly use?

Hi, On 14-06-2023 21:50, Cleverson Casarin Uliana wrote: Anyone who uses unstable or testing, please tell whether you have already had a breakage, either a system breakage or application breaking, I think in general, testing is quite good already for most users and I even think the Debian pr

Request for review of release-notes item: GTK4 apps are not accessible with screen reader

Dear a11y users and experts, In bug 1034248 [1] against the release notes it has been brought up that GNOME isn't as accessible as it was before (I recall it already wasn't great and a11y prefer MATE already). Can you please review and comment on the proposed text below? title: GNOME has reduced

Re: Regression: Pipewire 0.63 breaks emacspeak-espeak-server

Hi Sam, On 30-12-2022 22:35, Sam Hartman wrote: TL;DR: pipewire 0.63 breaks my accessibility environment. It may be good to be aware that there are multiple upstream versions of emacspeak available that I haven't packaged for Debian yet. I don't recall what exactly, but there was something (

Re: sources.list

Hi, On 31-10-2022 21:16, K0LNY_Glenn wrote: Hey All, I am wondering if anyone here could tell me which line in my sources.list file is causing a distribution conflict. Also, I'm not sure if I have the contribution source listed in my sources.list file. I am running bullseye 32 bit. I'll attach i

Re: find command

Hi, On 31-10-2022 18:12, Samuel Thibault wrote: K0LNY_Glenn, le lun. 31 oct. 2022 12:05:57 -0500, a ecrit: Originally, before searching on-line, I tried: find ~/ -type f -name *.log > find.txt You want this, but rather find ~/ (which will only look in your home), you want find / Also, if y

Re: Logs from Failed Bullseye RC3 Netinstall CD Accessible installation

Hi David, On 15-08-2021 13:03, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > It's awfully quiet here.> > I have the log files of unsuccessful installation of my Bullseye AMD64 > RC Netinstall CD here: > > http://qsl.net/n1ea/bullseyerc3netinstall.tar.gz > > > Thank

bug 913978: gnome-control-center is not accessible with Orca screenreader

Hi all, On Thu, 16 May 2019 20:15:20 +0200 Paul Gevers wrote: > On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 13:16:05 -0700 Tassia Camoes Araujo > wrote: > > From what I could understand, it is unlikely this will be fixed before > > Buster release. So how should we proceed about his bug? > >

Re: Problem with Orca not starting

Hi, I think it's orca, not Orca (so, all small letters instead of starting with a capital), no? Paul On 21-06-2020 11:00, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote: > It's probably nt an Orca problem. To check, does it work if run manually > after you restart lightdm? You can see what happens in braille or fr

Re: bookworm for accessibility

Hi hjenkins, On 16-03-2020 19:53, hjenkins wrote: > Packaging the Bookworm e-reader could significantly improve the > accessibility of Debian. Bookworm is written by blind developers, > according to its website. Thanks for letting us know about this piece of software. Are you aware of ebook-speak

Re: Bullseye and GUI accessibility

Hi Jean-Philippe, On 30-10-2019 19:02, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote: > I dont believe that Wayland will be ready for Bullseye from an a11y > point of view. Wil the installer choose Mate + Xorg for > speech/braille/dark installations? I ask because the project is setting > Wayland by default in Bull

Re: Backports question

Hi Pavel, Samuel, On 30-09-2019 15:59, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Pavel Vlček, le lun. 30 sept. 2019 15:24:08 +0200, a ecrit: >> at this time, I need to return to Debian stable, because it is the best >> solution for Vmware virtualization. When I enable backports, will be >> accessibility packages u

Re: Fenrir

Hi Vojtěch, On 26-07-2019 19:21, Vojtěch šmiro wrote: > Please, how can I install Fenrir in Debian? If you're running buster, testing or unstable: apt install fenrir Paul signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

Heh, On 24-07-2019 19:42, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Company is defunct and maybe you find one of those in an > accessibility technology museum exhibit along with emacspeak running on > another computer. Should I stop uploading *new upstream versions* of emacspeak then? Just did one upload last eveni

Re: buster 10.1

Hi Fran, On 17-07-2019 16:45, Fran Torres wrote: > your know when are available the debian buster 10.1? > for this versión needs a new debian-installer? Discussion is still ongoing started in this thread: https://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2019/07/msg00152.html Paul signature.asc Descr

Re: should not be removed from Buster (important for visually impaired users))

Hi Mika, On Sat, 06 Jul 2019 14:13:01 +0300 =?utf-8?q?Mika_Hanhij=C3=A4rvi?= wrote: > I am sorry that I report this so close to Buster release but I just noticeed > that in the Debian Buster release notes it is said that Revelation is removed > from the Buster. Release notes suggests that passwor

Re: Maybe at least document those keystrokes?

Control: tags -1 patch Hi, On 16-05-2019 20:15, Paul Gevers wrote: > On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 13:16:05 -0700 Tassia Camoes Araujo > wrote: >> From what I could understand, it is unlikely this will be fixed before >> Buster release. So how should we proceed about his bug? >>

Re: Maybe at least document those keystrokes?

Control: clone -1 -2 Control: reassign -2 release-notes Control: retitle -2 document g-c-c a11y workaround Control: severity -2 normal On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 13:16:05 -0700 Tassia Camoes Araujo wrote: > From what I could understand, it is unlikely this will be fixed before > Buster release. So how s

bug 864320: multiple critical problems booting

Control: tags -1 a11y Hi gofloss, > Dear Maintainer, > > below i describe multiple bugs in booting in jessie, which > might be relevant to stretch. > > most are grave or critical. many are accessibility-related. I appreciate the time you took to file this bug. Although you already made a note a

Re: Enabling jaw (Java-atk-wrapper) by default ? (Bug#900912)

Hi doko, On 07-04-2019 12:08, Samuel Thibault wrote: >> I disagree. I'll do the next upload with Samuel's proposed patches, not >> enabling that by default, together with the planned security update. Then >> people can start testing if the wrapper works. > > Well, I'm afraid that what will happ

Re: Status of Stretch and Buster

Hi Geoff, On 29-03-2019 22:54, Geoff Shang wrote: > 1.  For the new machines, should I install Buster or is it not yet ready > for us, either from an accessibility standpoint or in terms of general > stability (I'm not looking for bleeding edge, I'm looking for stability)? Yes, we are still figur

Re: mbrola became free

Hi David, On 01-11-18 11:52, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > I am happy for his message.  Except for it, I would not know about this. I do appreciate it that the message was well received on your end. > He was very nice about his message and it was only a few needed words. > > Thanks very much, I am

Re: mbrola became free

Hi, On 01-11-18 09:54, john doe wrote: > On 11/1/2018 9:32 AM, Alex ARNAUD wrote: >> Hello D.J.J, >> >> If you want a voice as good as Nuance voices or Acapela voices Hypra.fr >> team sells Voxygen hight-quality voices. >> >> You can contact me privately to have a trial version and to know the >>

Re: espeakup

Hi On 25-07-18 18:54, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Is it necessary to modify our sources.list file to use the debug debian > archive and if so, what would that line or those lines need to be? https://wiki.debian.org/AutomaticDebugPackages (under status): Depending on what you are using, pick the right

reassign 851810 to X.Org [WAS: xcalib: "Error - unsupported ramp size 0" when trying to invert screen]

Control: reassign -1 xserver-xorg-core Control: retitle -1 X.org: [stretch] regression impacting accessibility tool xcalib Control: tags -1 patch stretch Control: forwarded -1 https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2017-October/054991.html Control: found -1 2:1.19.1-4 Control: fixed -1 2:1.20.0-

Error retrieving accessibility bus address

Dear all, I just spotted the following error in an autopkgtest¹ that started to appear two weeks ago (coinciding with systemd 239, hence the CC): Error retrieving accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files Is

Re: Fenrir 1.9 released

Hi Chrys, Thanks for notifying us. I see we don't have a watch file in the fenrir package so we don't notice these changes. On 08-06-18 00:48, chrys wrote: > i write you to notify that i just released an new fenrir release: > https://github.com/chrys87/fenrir/releases/tag/1.9 Maybe you want to u

Re: multiple ITPs - mbrola voices

Hi, On 21-04-18 23:51, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Well, that becomes a question of taste. We do need separate binary > packages anyway, I don't see how using separate source packages makes it > uglier. Being one that uploads voices as well, I agree with Samuel on this. Note though (and I started a

Re: multiple ITPs - mbrola voices

Hi On 19-04-18 08:55, Samuel Thibault wrote: > There are quite a few things which are specific to mbrola (finding the > voice file, a test file, package description & licence), but perhaps it > can be made more generic? Let's hope so. > One thing I didn't automate is upgrading, because it doesn'

Re: multiple ITPs - mbrola voices

Hi Samuel, On 18-04-18 23:01, Samuel Thibault wrote: > There is currently some momentum to make espeak-ng able to use mbrola > voices. I am thus uploading them to Debian. Here is the list of ITPs: I recently looked also at the new (well...) festival voices. I have been playing with one master te

Re: Potentially broken repositories on Salsa

Hi Andreas, On 13-03-18 12:25, Andreas Tille wrote: > I'm in the process of porting the Blends metadata gatherer to Salsa. > When doing so, I've found two suspicious repositories in Debian > Accessibility scope: Thanks for the heads up/warning. > a11y-team/dotify-api does not seem to have dir de

Re: edbrowse weird behavior

Hi, Thanks for the responses. On 26-02-18 23:04, Jude DaShiell wrote: > shorter, at the colon prompt %p   The % is an abbreviation for > 1,$. This doesn't work for me. paul@testavoira ~ $ edbrowse tmp/bla 4 %p ? h unknown command % > On Mon, 26 Feb 2018, Samuel Thibault wrote:

edbrowse weird behavior

Hi all, I am trying to package a new version of edbrowse, but even the current version *and* the Stretch version don't give me the expected results on my system. (It seems to report the number of characters read instead of the text itself). Can anybody here see text with edbrowse? Do other people

Accepted ebook-speaker 5.0.0-1 (source) into unstable

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 13:51:11 +0100 Source: ebook-speaker Binary: ebook-speaker Architecture: source Version: 5.0.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Debian Accessibility Team Changed-By: Paul Gevers Description

Re: Alioth to Salsa migration of a11y and tts packages

Hi all, On 21-01-18 20:00, Paul Gevers wrote: > I have just migrated all a11y packages, and am searching for the > tts-team ID. No lock down of the old archives has happened, so please be > aware (and maybe push to both archives until you hit the lock down message). This seems to ha

Re: Alioth to Salsa migration of a11y and tts packages

Hi all, On 20-01-18 22:10, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Paul Gevers wrote: >> An a11y team was already been created² (not by me by the way), I just >> created the tts team³. Who wants to be co-owner with me? > > I can help some with the migration,

Alioth to Salsa migration of a11y and tts packages

Dear co a11y and tts developers, You should all be aware that Alioth is about to be decommissioned. As far as I see, the replacement on Salsa is mature enough¹ that I want to start migrating our archives over to it. An a11y team was already been created² (not by me by the way), I just created the

Re: Adopting sound-icons?

Hi Jeremy, On 03-01-18 23:52, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > Paul, were you still planning on moving sound-icons to be maintained > by the Accessibility Team? > > https://bugs.debian.org/730987 I can't say I was, as it 100% dropped from my radar. That being said, I still think we should do it. I'll try

festvox voices

Dear all, As you may have noticed, I have worked on several festival/festvox packages lately. However, I was wondering about some issues, so I solicit for advice. Mainly because I never use any of these packages myself. 1) We have three¹ 8kHz voices in our archive, with 16kHz siblings. Are they s

Re: xclip problem

Hi Jude, On 22-12-17 20:04, Jude DaShiell wrote: > I haven't got kde accessible over here yet. Just to avoid confusion, I don't need accessibility support, so I have no clue how much of it doesn't work in KDE. I meant to say, alt-f2 "echo xx > /tmp/yy" produced me a new file called /tmp/yy with t

Re: xclip problem

Hi Jude, On 22-12-17 19:26, Jude DaShiell wrote: > as near as I can tell, echo does not work when used after alt-f2 in a > text command. Just tried, for me it works (in KDE). > I also found out it's > necessary to use touch to create a file first before anything can be > sent to that file. That

Re: pkg-gnome packages have been converted from svn to git

Hi Jeremy, On 21-12-17 20:47, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > There are a few packages [1] that are co-maintained between the Debian > GNOME (pkg-gnome) and Debian Accessibility (pkg-a11y) teams. I am > pleased to announce that all of the accessibility packages have now > been converted from svn to git. Ya

Bug#712629: Acknowledgement (espeak: fails to speak final chunk)

Hi Sam On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 11:43:57 -0400 Sam Hartman wrote: > Well, it does look like the bug is fixed. So, should this bug been closed at the time? Paul signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: speech-dispatcher 0.8.8 in Debian

Hi, On 16-12-17 02:20, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Paul Gevers, on ven. 15 déc. 2017 10:01:26 +0100, wrote: >> There is a new version not yet packaged for Debian. I think the upload >> would be trivial. Are you getting around to it, or shall I just upload >> it? > > Thank

Re: speech-dispatcher 0.8.8 in Debian

Hi Samuel, On 15-12-17 11:11, Samuel Thibault wrote: >> the point is that in non-free, packages can be white listed to be >> auto-build, while packages in contrib need manual building and >> uploading. > > Perhaps that's also a point that should be fixed? I don't see why non-free > could be auto

Re: speech-dispatcher 0.8.8 in Debian

Hi, On 15-12-17 10:01, Paul Gevers wrote: > If I followed announcement correctly, you are now involved with > speech-dispatcher upstream. There is a new version not yet packaged for > Debian. I think the upload would be trivial. Are you getting around to > it, or shall I ju

speech-dispatcher 0.8.8 in Debian

Hi Samuel, If I followed announcement correctly, you are now involved with speech-dispatcher upstream. There is a new version not yet packaged for Debian. I think the upload would be trivial. Are you getting around to it, or shall I just upload it? Paul signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digit

Re: sphinx* packages

Hi Samuel On 03-11-17 11:35, Paul Gevers wrote: > The current package of python-sphinxbase contains¹ a (unstripped!) > static library. Is that on purpose? If not, do you see a good reason to > keep it (stripped or unstripped)? I suggest we remove it from the > package, but I must a

Re: sphinx* packages

Hi Samuel, The current package of python-sphinxbase contains¹ a (unstripped!) static library. Is that on purpose? If not, do you see a good reason to keep it (stripped or unstripped)? I suggest we remove it from the package, but I must admit I don't know if that breaks the binding. Paul ¹ https:

Re: sphinx* packages

Hi Samuel, Other than ENOTIME, is there a reason why you never added a symbols file to the sphinxbase package? Paul signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: sphinx* packages

Hi, On 03-11-17 09:45, Samuel Thibault wrote: > I'd say call them 0.8+5prealpha+1 and 1.0.8+5prealpha+1 I'll do that then. Paul signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: sphinx* packages

Hi Samuel, On 03-11-17 09:41, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hello, > > Paul Gevers, on ven. 03 nov. 2017 09:28:25 +0100, wrote: >> Current versions: >> sphinxbase 0.8+5prealpha >> sphinxtrain 1.0.8+5prealpha >> >> New versions: >> both 5prealph

sphinx* packages

Hi, I am working on providing new upstream releases in Debian of sphinxbase and sphinxtrain. However, the upstream version looks weird to me, and I wonder if it is smart to just take it over. I won't like it if the next upstream version requires us to add an epoch. Current versions: sphinxbase

Re: Need sponsor to package Oomox : tool to personalize GTK theme

Hi Alex, On 27-10-17 13:49, Alex ARNAUD wrote: > Do I need to close the ITP and reopen an RFS request? Does anybody could > sponsored me to make oomox shipped into Debian? Best is to change the ITP to RFS. You can also request sponsors via the mentors process¹ if people lurking on this list are t

Re: svn -> git of a11y packaging archives

Hi all, On 15-07-17 10:46, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Paul Gevers, on sam. 15 juil. 2017 07:54:37 +0200, wrote: >> Is there any objection if I convert them into git repos? > > No objection from me, there are probably only a few. I just uploaded edbrowse. For all of you that foll

brltty in buster

Hi all, Is there any reason other than ENOTIME that brltty 5.5 is still lingering in experimental while it is supposed to fix an RC bug in unstable/buster? Shall I upload to unstable? Paul signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: gnome-orca version policy?

Hi, On 19-09-17 04:53, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Paul Gevers wrote: >> Can't we find an easy way to have these delta's within the package? I >> believe there is some trick to apply patches only in Ubuntu (not sure >> how stable that

Re: gnome-orca version policy?

Hi Jeremy On 16-09-17 12:45, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > Ubuntu's orca has 2 extra patches: one for better Unity support and > one to use gsettings for new installs. Otherwise, the a11y packages > are in sync now between Debian and Ubuntu, at least in the Debian VCS. Can't we find an easy way to have t

Bug#874302: liblouis: Debdiff for liblouis CVEs 38, 39, 40 , 42 and 44 with prefix (CVE-2017-1137*)

Hi Leonidas, On 05-09-17 20:02, Leonidas S. Barbosa wrote: > In Ubuntu, the attached patch was applied to achieve the following: Just so I understand it right, why didn't you package the new upstream as suggested by the Debian security team? Paul signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital si

Re: gnome-orca version policy?

Hi Jeremy, On 02-09-17 21:05, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > I am now a DD so I can help with uploads if desired. That would be great. I hope that means way less Debian <-> Ubuntu delta's (which always annoy me). Paul signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: gnome-orca version policy?

Hi Jean-Philippe, On 03-09-17 01:37, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote: > Actually it is a kind of strategical choice, depending mainly on the > time you / we have to package and how the package is complex to update. Mweh. I think the watch file should reflect what we consider stable to package. Whethe

gnome-orca version policy?

Hi Jeremy, The watch file in the gnome-orca package suggests that only the even versions of minor releases should be packaged, but you packages 3.25.4 for Ubuntu. Should we update our watch file or is 3.25.4 special? Paul signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Debian accessibility news

Hi, Thanks for letting us know. On 08/25/17 13:32, ch...@linux-a11y.org wrote: > - OCRdesktop (useful reading pictures or interact with non accessible > software) > https://wiki.linux-a11y.org/doku.php?id=ocrdesktop And indeed already mentioned on the TODO list: https://wiki.debian.org/accessibi

Bug#859262: bug 859262: gnome-orca: Gets stuck if target app is busy

Control: tag -1 moreinfo Hi Mika, On Tue, 23 May 2017 21:05:41 +0200 Paul Gevers wrote: > On 23-05-17 20:57, Mika Hanhijärvi wrote: > > Unfortunately this did not fix the problem. The problem still exists. I > > still have noticed this only when using Synaptic. > > That

duktape library?

Hi IoT team, The edbrowse package maintained by the accessibility team moved to use duktape upstream in the latest version. I am please to see that duktape is in the archive. However, it seems that edbrowse needs the library, which is probably build, but isn't installed into any package as far as

Bug#706544: gnome-orca: No more braille output after restarting orca

Hi Alex On 03-08-17 08:17, Alex ARNAUD wrote: > I think this bug is not still alive on recent Debian version because lot > of people use braille and restart Orca without encounter this issue on > Debian Jessie and Debian Stretch. > > > I'll close it. Please don't close bugs with this reasoning,

Re: Debian accessibility news

Hi, On 29-07-17 12:59, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote: > Of course, it is possible. Just change jessie to testing in you Replace testing with stretch of course. Absolutely no need to go to testing, as that is probably not what the Mark wanted. > sources.list and apt-get update then apt-get dist-upg

svn -> git of a11y packaging archives

Hi all (and especially Samuel), I am going through the list of package maintained by the accessibility team and looking for pending uploads and/or new upstream versions. Some of our packaging archives are still svn repos. Is there any objection if I convert them into git repos? I appreciate to hav

patch for upstream speech-dispatcher

Hi Samuel, Can you please forward the fix-spelling-mistakes.patch that I added to the speech-dispatcher package to upstream? It seem you need to have credentials to submit bugs. https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/tts/speech-dispatcher.git/tree/debian/patches/fix-spelling-mistakes.patch I just uploa

Bug#868132: Needless build dependency on kdelibs5-dev

Control: tags -1 moreinfo Hi Alexander On 07/12/17 12:18, Alexander Volkov wrote: > Package: qt-at-spi > Version: 0.4.0-5 > > There s no need to have kdelibs5-dev in Build-Depends with the applied > patch nokde. Patch seems to be missing. Paul signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital sign

Re: GNOME 3.24 a11y updates

Hi Jeremy On 06/25/17 16:07, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > With Samuel's permission, I updated the packaging for the a11y > components of GNOME 3.24 last month. I am not a DD yet so I will need > sponsorship for these updates. > > Now that Stretch is released, maybe now would be a good time to upload > t

Bug#867711: emacspeak: incompatible with emacs23

Control: tags -1 moreinfo On 07/08/17 21:40, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > In case the package was not part of an intermediate stable release, > the version from the preceding stable release was kept installed. Can you clarify what you mean by this? Emacs23 hasn't been in Debian stable since wheezy.

Re: GNOME 3.24 a11y updates

Hi Cindy-Sue, On 26-06-17 21:49, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > What does it take to test that? I'm not in a place to do it this time > at this second, but I decided to ask anyway. I don't know (that is also my main problem). Maybe somebody with insights into at-spi2 can chime in. Paul signature.a

Re: GNOME 3.24 a11y updates

Hi Jeremy, On 06/25/17 16:07, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > With Samuel's permission, I updated the packaging for the a11y > components of GNOME 3.24 last month. I am not a DD yet so I will need > sponsorship for these updates. > > Now that Stretch is released, maybe now would be a good time to upload >

Re: GNOME 3.24 a11y updates

Hi all, On 06/25/17 16:07, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > With Samuel's permission, I updated the packaging for the a11y > components of GNOME 3.24 last month. I am not a DD yet so I will need > sponsorship for these updates. > > Now that Stretch is released, maybe now would be a good time to upload > the

Re: Updating gnome-orca to version 3.24

Hi all, On 06/19/17 20:57, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote: > Actually I think he will not do the work for various reasons personal we > saw on the irc. And now the dev process is active again, could someone > handle this travial task? I could do, but anyway would need some review > for upload. And I

Re: Updating gnome-orca to version 3.24

Hi, On 06/19/17 20:57, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote: > could someone handle this travial task? If nobody beats me to it, I'll probably do this within a couple of weeks. Paul signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Bug#859262: closed by Paul Gevers (Bug#859262: fixed in gnome-orca 3.22.2-3)

Control: reopen -1 Hi Mika, On 23-05-17 20:57, Mika Hanhijärvi wrote: > Unfortunately this did not fix the problem. The problem still exists. I > still have noticed this only when using Synaptic. That is a shame. Could you please try to get the debugging information needed by Joanmarie on your s

Re: Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Hi Samuel, On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 21:18:58 +0200 Paul Gevers wrote: > On 29-04-17 17:51, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > > I believe I've already said this, but I'll say it again: Getting to the > > bottom of the Synaptic and/or AT-SPI problem(s) should be done. > > Do y

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Control: tags -1 pending Control: owner -1 Hi all, On 02-05-17 21:48, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > On 05/02/2017 03:26 PM, Paul Gevers wrote: > >> @Joanmarie, did you get any feedback on the Orca list? > > Nope. I take that to mean all is well. If this bug doesn't receive

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Hi all, On 30-04-17 21:09, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > From your output I see you clicked on the Apply button in Synaptic, a > bunch of events from DEAD accessible objects resulted, that Orca kept > processing events, presented the window you Alt+Tabbed into, etc. > > Having said that, if memory ser

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Hi Joanmarie, On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 11:51:28 -0400 Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > I've asked on the Orca list for testing, and we have enough users that > use master and respond quite quickly to calls for testing, that we > should know soon enough. As you have seen, I already created a Debian package wi

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Samuel, On 29-04-17 17:51, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > I believe I've already said this, but I'll say it again: Getting to the > bottom of the Synaptic and/or AT-SPI problem(s) should be done. Do you think we should clone/open a bug for atspi? If so, what severity level (assuming we can get orca in

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Hi Mika, Tim, On 29-04-17 17:51, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: >> And to prepare for fixes of the package in Debian (which is 3.22.2 and >> will be extremely hard convince the release managers to update in this >> stage due to the freeze), which fixes would we need to backport to fix >> the issues identi

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Hi Joanmarie, On 28-04-17 21:46, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > Therefore, before you try to log other issues, would you mind pulling > master or the gnome-3-24 branch so you have the latest? I checked out the gnome-3-24 branch and tried to build¹ a Debian package from that, that I could install. With

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Hi, On 23-04-17 19:27, Paul Gevers wrote: > On 23-04-17 15:32, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: >> That segfault is an AT-SPI2 bug. And apparently an elusive one. >> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=767074 > > Just to get things straight, do you mean here that you do or tha

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Hi Joanmarie, On 23-04-17 15:32, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > That segfault is an AT-SPI2 bug. And apparently an elusive one. > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=767074 Just to get things straight, do you mean here that you do or that you don't believe this segfault has anything to do with t

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Hi Joanmarie, Yesterday, I send you a log while Synaptic had not much to do, because I ran it earlier the same day (so maybe the original issue wasn't there). Today I tried again, hoping that there were updates to apply, which there were. orca segfaulted on me. Please see the attached stack trace.

Bug#859926: speechd-up: fails to install

Control: reassign -1 speech-dispatcher Control: retitle -1 breaks with pulse-audio as output when spawned by speechd-up from init system Control: affects -1 speechd-up On 22-04-17 22:01, Paul Gevers wrote: > On 22-04-17 21:26, Cobra wrote: >> I was thinking of reassigning to the curre

Bug#859926: speechd-up: fails to install

Hi Cobra, On 22-04-17 21:26, Cobra wrote: > On 2017-04-22 19:51, Paul Gevers wrote: >> On 22-04-17 00:26, Cobra wrote: >>> The directories are different when starting at boot: >> This doesn't sound good. I think it shouldn't matter how you call an >> i

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Hi Joanmarie, On 19-04-17 22:35, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > Please send me a full debug.out, captured from Orca master or Orca > 3.24.x (i.e. current stable). Instructions here: > https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca/Debugging I hope the attached log contains enough information for you to work it o

Bug#859926: speechd-up: fails to install

[CC-ing tts-project@l.a.d.o as they are the maintainer of speech-dispatcher; although I believe most contributers there also read d-a11n.] On 22-04-17 00:26, Cobra wrote: > Looks like we're chasing a pulseaudio<->speech-dispatcher bug now. Fun. I concluded the same based on my logs. Although ther

Bug#859926: speechd-up: fails to install

Hi On 21-04-17 16:21, Cobra wrote: > The man page states: > "speech-dispatcher is usually started automatically by client libraries > (i.e. autospawn), so you only need to run it manually if > testing/debugging, or when in other explicit need for a special setup." > > So this behaviour doesn't s

Bug#860891: espeak-ng doesn't work with mbrola-us3 voice

Package: espeak-ng Version: 1.49.0+dfsg-9 Severity: normal -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 I just tried to help with Launchpad bug 1684280¹ and I tried the following commands: paul@testavoira ~ $ /usr/bin/espeak -v mb-us3 "Hello world" paul@testavoira ~ $ /usr/bin/espeak-ng -v mb

Bug#859926: speechd-up: fails to install

Hi Jean-Philippe, On 19-04-17 22:28, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote: > 1st, I have always had the idea the the spd service had bugs and was not > really usable: spent so resource, didn't run really, etc. Hence the fact > it's always been in "no" in defaults/speech-dispatcher. So, does that mean that

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Hi On 19-04-17 01:13, Niels Thykier wrote: > Reading the log file, we at least have one bug in Orca itself (a Python > "NameError"). I am not entirely sure whether this bug triggers the > "hung" process or the "hung" process triggers the "NameError". Not sure if you (Niels) looked at the code, b

Bug#859926: speechd-up: fails to install

Hi all, I don't know what to make of it, but when I first start the speechd-up daemon by hand, then the init script succeeds (because it finds the daemon already running). But now it comes, I then can stop and start the daemon successfully, but only when I am quick enough. This is reproducible, sl

Bug#859926: speechd-up: fails to install

Hi Jean-Philippe, On 17-04-17 11:19, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote: > We're going to have a look, but here I cannot reproduce. On Stretch, I > install the package without problems. So I am surprised. I may have > systemd-sysv, indeed, but not much more. Seems like your system is the only system whe

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