Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-26 Thread Jude DaShiell
If a user learned their numbers in Morse code, the pc speaker could be used if one existed and pcspkr had been loaded. All a user would hear would be numbers once up and down arrows got used but if that user knew what would start with each number played, no need for sound cards at all. --

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-26 Thread am_dxer
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Martin McCormick wrote: > I absolutely hate what I call "press and pray" in which > the silent world prevails and you count button presses in the > silence and hope and pray that nothing weird happens. > > Failing speech, I know grub can be configu

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-24 Thread Jude DaShiell
No, probably the Smithsonian hasn't got your latest update though. On Wed, 24 Jul 2019, Paul Gevers wrote: > Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 14:45:56 > From: Paul Gevers > To: Jude DaShiell , > Martin McCormick , > debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: C

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-24 Thread Paul Gevers
Heh, On 24-07-2019 19:42, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Company is defunct and maybe you find one of those in an > accessibility technology museum exhibit along with emacspeak running on > another computer. Should I stop uploading *new upstream versions* of emacspeak then? Just did one upload last eveni

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-24 Thread Jude DaShiell
Jul 2019 12:48:27 > From: Martin McCormick > To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Can grub be made to talk? > Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 16:48:44 + (UTC) > Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org > > I can't count the number of

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-24 Thread Martin McCormick
I can't count the number of times I have said, to myself, "Speech/Braille/you name it; should be in some kind of low-level jail on a computer that starts before anything else does and is the last thing to go dark before the power goes off." Petitboot is what I was thinking of even if I ca

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-24 Thread David J. Ring, Jr.
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=morse+console&searchon=all&suite=stable§ion=all The one you want is aldo but unixcw is very nice.  Unixcw has both a gui and cli program but the cli program is called cw so many miss it. unixcw just sends Morse code. There is also a very old program

Re: More info about petitboot? - was {Re: Can grub be made to talk?}

2019-07-24 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/24/2019 06:07 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote: Richard Owlett, le mer. 24 juil. 2019 05:57:55 -0500, a ecrit: On 07/24/2019 01:40 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote: [snip] - petitboot is an interesting approach: you boot a Linux kernel that only runs petitboot, and there you can run a screen reader

Re: More info about petitboot? - was {Re: Can grub be made to talk?}

2019-07-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Richard Owlett, le mer. 24 juil. 2019 05:57:55 -0500, a ecrit: > On 07/24/2019 01:40 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > [snip] - petitboot is an interesting approach: you boot a Linux kernel > > that > >only runs petitboot, and there you can run a screen reader such as > >brltty. That can then

More info about petitboot? - was {Re: Can grub be made to talk?}

2019-07-24 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/24/2019 01:40 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote: [snip] - petitboot is an interesting approach: you boot a Linux kernel that only runs petitboot, and there you can run a screen reader such as brltty. That can then boot the real kernel for the targetted system. I had never heard of petitboo

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, In addition to what was said: - grub is in C, so no need for learning assembly to contribute sound drivers to it :) - the plan was to add sound support to grub, and pre-synthesize boot entry texts for grub to play. This plan is still only in todo lists, though. - petitboot is an in

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-23 Thread Jude DaShiell
Where's the morse code training software for Linux that runs on the command line? Everything I've been able to find has eye candy interfaces. --

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-23 Thread Martin McCormick
Wow! Thanks. As I said in an earlier message, I dodged the bullet this time in that I should be able to protect the old development system with a chroot jail. The assembler and debugger/emulator that won't make in newer versions of debian should still work and, assuming I can get a serial port t

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-23 Thread Martin McCormick
Thanks very much. I suspected that but it looks like I don't have to make a duel-boot system afterall. Someone on the debian list suggested I use a chroot jail to encapsulate the old distribution which, in this case, should solve the problem I was trying to solve in the first place. If i

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-23 Thread Mgr. Janusz Chmiel
To make this talking GRUB to work, there would had to exist Assembly language group of specialists who would have a good will to develop 6 KH/Z 8 BIts mono simple monotone speech engine for Grub. I do not know, how many active developers work on Grub. Many boot managers are using Assembler, mach

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-23 Thread Didier Spaier
Hello Martin, I absolutely hate what I call "press and pray" in which the silent world prevails and you count button presses in the silence and hope and pray that nothing weird happens. GRUB can't be made to talk, but it can play songs using its play command. So you can have it play a different

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-23 Thread john doe
On 7/23/2019 6:59 PM, Martin McCormick wrote: > I confess that I am on the low end of the grub learning > curve but I need to make one debian system duel-boot with a > different debian version. One version is debian wheezy which I > want to keep because there are some PIC microcontroller > d

Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-23 Thread Martin McCormick
I confess that I am on the low end of the grub learning curve but I need to make one debian system duel-boot with a different debian version. One version is debian wheezy which I want to keep because there are some PIC microcontroller development tools that make just fine in wheezy but the