Re: grub beeps

2024-07-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, K0LNY ??, le mer. 24 juil. 2024 11:31:58 -0500, a ecrit: > Years back there used to be a way to make grub beep every time we arrowed to a > new entry. > Is there still a way to do this with grub 2? I don't know a way to do that with grub2, but the grub-de...@gnu.org mailing

grub beeps

2024-07-24 Thread K0LNY ??
Hello, I edited /etc/default/grub and uncommented the tune line so I would get a beep on startup. Years back there used to be a way to make grub beep every time we arrowed to a new entry. Is there still a way to do this with grub 2? Thanks Glenn Change is inevitable, except from a vending

Re: Mac mini 2014 will not show Debian installer grub menu.

2023-10-22 Thread Frank Carmickle
> On Oct 22, 2023, at 10:18, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Hello, > > Note that you need to select the graphical boot entry in order to get > speech support. > > Beeping might not be supported on the mac mini, but if it's grub, the > "s" shortcut shou

Re: Mac mini 2014 will not show Debian installer grub menu.

2023-10-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Note that you need to select the graphical boot entry in order to get speech support. Beeping might not be supported on the mac mini, but if it's grub, the "s" shortcut should be working. Samuel

Mac mini 2014 will not show Debian installer grub menu.

2023-10-21 Thread Will
Wonder if anyone else has seen this before and knows a way to get speakup running with out the menu. I have tried editing the grub.cfg file and adding the string speakup.synth=soft to the regular install options as well as text install. I have gotten to this menu that says Debian installer main men

Troubleshooting a Non-bootable System, How to Reinstall Grub?

2023-07-25 Thread Al Puzzuoli
Hi all, Long story short, I'm trying to troubleshoot a broken system. I want to reinstall grub. If possible, I would love to just re-run the Debian installer and somehow jump to the last menu where it installs grub and makes the system bootable. However, I haven't found any way to do t

Re: can't install grub on Acer ES1-131 netbook

2022-05-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
’t matter Because no matter which one I choose I don’t get a grub > menu. I’ve disabled secure boot, so i’m not sure what’s the problem, just grub > doesn’t appear in the boot menu and i can only boot to windows. Is there any > way to fix that? The netbook model is acer es1-131, i’ve als

can't install grub on Acer ES1-131 netbook

2022-05-16 Thread VIPPotato
Hello, recently I wanted to dual boot windows 11 with ubuntu on my netbook. The distro doesn’t matter Because no matter which one I choose I don’t get a grub menu. I’ve disabled secure boot, so i’m not sure what’s the problem, just grub doesn’t appear in the boot menu and i can only boot to

Re: Bad Behavior by GRUB

2022-01-11 Thread john doe
On 1/12/2022 5:16 AM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: My message to the debian-accessibility list got blocked so I'm sending this again as Didier had copied the list with his message to me. Right below my signature, I'll put the contents of some of the files I sent in case it's helpful, otherwise ignore

Re: Bad Behavior by GRUB

2022-01-11 Thread D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
My message to the debian-accessibility list got blocked so I'm sending this again as Didier had copied the list with his message to me. Right below my signature, I'll put the contents of some of the files I sent in case it's helpful, otherwise ignore that. My message: Didier, Here's the missing

Re: Bad Behavior by GRUB

2022-01-11 Thread Didier Spaier
g) > > Maybe the additional files that I requested will tell us? > > Cheers, > Didier > > Le 11/01/2022 à 08:36, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. a écrit : >> Didier,  >> >> I didn't know if you wanted me to reply also to the list, which I will do, >> but >

Re: Bad Behavior by GRUB

2022-01-11 Thread Didier Spaier
that I requested will tell us? Cheers, Didier Le 11/01/2022 à 08:36, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. a écrit : > Didier,  > > I didn't know if you wanted me to reply also to the list, which I will do, but > I'm sending this to you only until you tell me otherwise. > > Yes I confused GRUB

Re: Bad Behavior by GRUB

2022-01-11 Thread Didier Spaier
specific boot entry at next boot. So what I meant is that efibootmgr is also available in Debian. Other correction: the option if grub-install to prevent writing a boot entry in the firmware's boot menu is: --no-nvram (with a hyphen between no and nvram). last, discard this line: 2) You can

Re: Bad Behavior by GRUB

2022-01-11 Thread Chime Hart
Hi All: Yesterday Didier mentioned an item called "alos" for Debian, which neither apt nor aptitude have? Wonder if it were a typo? Thanks in advance Chime

Re: Bad Behavior by GRUB

2022-01-10 Thread D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
Didier, I didn't know if you wanted me to reply also to the list, which I will do, but I'm sending this to you only until you tell me otherwise. Yes I confused GRUB menu with the firmware, from what I understand it is GRUB that is changing the UEFI settings in my firmware BIOS SETUP

Re: Bad Behavior by GRUB

2022-01-10 Thread Didier Spaier
Hi, Le 10/01/2022 à 21:15, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. a écrit : > GRUB now puts a "Preferred Boot" at the top of GRUB's choices so that it goes > directly to the last successfully used operating system. I think you are confusing the GRUB menu with the menu of the firmware. >

Re: Bad Behavior by GRUB

2022-01-10 Thread Rob Whyte
I believe this is the challenge some find of having one distro when multi-booting writing grub to the disk with the other distros writing to the partition. cheers On 11/1/22 7:29 am, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hello, > > D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le lun. 10 janv. 2022 15:15:07 -0500, a ecrit: &

Re: Bad Behavior by GRUB

2022-01-10 Thread D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
janv. 2022 15:15:07 -0500, a ecrit: > > As soon as my computer boots into one of the operating systems, either > Slint, > > Debian, or Windows 10, GRUB adds an entry to the very top of my > computer's > > BIOS SETUP changing the boot device boot order, > > I had never

Re: Bad Behavior by GRUB

2022-01-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le lun. 10 janv. 2022 15:15:07 -0500, a ecrit: > As soon as my computer boots into one of the operating systems, either Slint, > Debian, or Windows 10, GRUB adds an entry to the very top of my computer's > BIOS  SETUP changing the boot device boot order

Bad Behavior by GRUB

2022-01-10 Thread D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
Hello friendly list, GRUB now puts a "Preferred Boot" at the top of GRUB's choices so that it goes directly to the last successfully used operating system. Example: I have Slint, Debian, and Windows 10 on my computer. They all boot with use of GRUB. The first time I boot my b

Re: method for booting the talking network installation with non-free firmware from the hard drive using grub

2021-08-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le lun. 30 août 2021 20:43:41 -0500, a ecrit: > Hi, Should I first uncompress both files or just cat them both together and > what one should I put first? Just cat the two .gz files, the order doesn't matter. > as lots of newer systems do not have CD or DVD or BD drives Err, yes

Re: method for booting the talking network installation with non-free firmware from the hard drive using grub

2021-08-30 Thread Nick Gawronski
://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/bullseye/current/ to produce one file that you give to the initrd command of grub, that should be doing it. With grub in the default configuration can you type in a label to launch it Grub's menuentry command has a --hotkey parameter

Re: method for booting the talking network installation with non-free firmware from the hard drive using grub

2021-08-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
n cat the initrd.gz and the firmware.cpio.gz file from https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/bullseye/current/ to produce one file that you give to the initrd command of grub, that should be doing it. > With grub in the default configuration can you type in a label to > la

Re: method for booting the talking network installation with non-free firmware from the hard drive using grub

2021-08-30 Thread Nick Gawronski
Hi, Looking at the installation manual the network installation files will probably work better.  The issue is that all of my network cards require non-free firmware to load is there a version of the GTK network boot files that contain this firmware?  With grub in the default configuration can

Re: method for booting the talking network installation with non-free firmware from the hard drive using grub

2021-08-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le lun. 30 août 2021 07:22:01 -0500, a ecrit: > What would I need to do after I made a copy of the initial ramdisk image > gzip file and the kernel to /boot to run the talking version of the > debian-installer Simply a grub entry that runs linux /the/kernel speakup.s

Re: method for booting the talking network installation with non-free firmware from the hard drive using grub

2021-08-30 Thread Nick Gawronski
Hi, What would I need to do after I made a copy of the initial ramdisk image gzip file and the kernel to /boot to run the talking version of the debian-installer as I don't have another partition to use to dd the iso file to?  Reading the debian installation manuals there are no directions on i

Re: method for booting the talking network installation with non-free firmware from the hard drive using grub

2021-08-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski: > There is no way to extract the GTK initial ramdisk image gzip file from > the iso file You can do that as well, yes. > or just place the iso file in /home That part would make it much harder for the installer to find the iso image. Putting it onto a partition is really much si

Re: method for booting the talking network installation with non-free firmware from the hard drive using grub

2021-08-29 Thread Nick Gawronski
Hi, There is no way to extract the GTK initial ramdisk image gzip file from the iso file or just place the iso file in /home and have a grub target that I can type in a label for and it just boots?  I kind of wanted a non-distructive method for the iso image so if I say needed to fix something

Re: method for booting the talking network installation with non-free firmware from the hard drive using grub

2021-08-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Nick Gawronski wrote: > one of my other partitions on my hard drive contain the Debian network > installation with the non-free firmware then setup grub for a text > target Yes, that's possible. The simplest way is to dd the iso image to the partition, and then in the gru

Re: method for booting the talking network installation with non-free firmware from the hard drive using grub

2021-08-29 Thread Jason White
Nick Gawronski wrote: > Hi, I was wondering if it is possible to have one of my other partitions on > my hard drive contain the Debian network installation with the non-free > firmware then setup grub for a text target I could type in after the boot > prompt comes up so when I run it

method for booting the talking network installation with non-free firmware from the hard drive using grub

2021-08-29 Thread Nick Gawronski
Hi, I was wondering if it is possible to have one of my other partitions on my hard drive contain the Debian network installation with the non-free firmware then setup grub for a text target I could type in after the boot prompt comes up so when I run it the espeakup software starts like it

Re: Sv: Re: grub

2019-12-07 Thread Didier Spaier
trying to help you, even if you think that they misunderstood your question. (written before Samuel just posted something similar) @ Jude: this setting in grub.cfg: GRUB_INIT_TUNE= just tells Grub to play this tune when it's ready to receive commands from the user, not when a specific menu e

Re: Sv: Re: grub

2019-12-07 Thread Didier Spaier
something similar) @ Jude: this setting in grub.cfg: GRUB_INIT_TUNE= just tells Grub to play this tune when it's ready to receive commands from the user, not when a specific menu entry is focused. Now to answer Mattias' question: 1. As far as I know it is not currently possible to set up

Re: grub

2019-12-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Chime Hart, le sam. 07 déc. 2019 13:00:13 -0800, a ecrit: > While certainly numbered beeps would be quite good, at least in LILO you can > asign letter hotkeys such as w for windows. Can that be done in grub? Yes, you however can't make update-grub do it. I added a section about this h

Re: Sv: Re: grub

2019-12-07 Thread Didier Spaier
I forgot to say: to get out of grub-emu you need to press c to get an (emulated) GRUB prompt, the type: exit 3. Meanwhile, you can use grub-emu to display the Grub boot menu in a console or in an accessible graphical terminal: _ install grub-emu is not yet done _ type as root or using sudo

Re: grub

2019-12-07 Thread Chime Hart
While certainly numbered beeps would be quite good, at least in LILO you can asign letter hotkeys such as w for windows. Can that be done in grub? Thanks in advance Chime

Re: Sv: Re: grub

2019-12-07 Thread Didier Spaier
something similar) @ Jude: this setting in grub.cfg: GRUB_INIT_TUNE= just tells Grub to play this tune when it's ready to receive commands from the user, not when a specific menu entry is focused. Now to answer Mattias' question: 1. As far as I know it is not currently possible to set up

Re: grub

2019-12-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
seem to be available any more. This should be requested on the grub development mailing list. There had been ideas for an accessible grub, but nothing got finished. I guess a very basic support easily doable and already quite effective could be to beep a number of times depending on which entry is

Re: Sv: Re: grub

2019-12-07 Thread john doe
On 12/7/2019 7:33 PM, mattias jonsson wrote: > Can you read? > > Ok i should write if you was a idiot > > 1: i have both win10 and debian > > 2 when you start the computer and grub starts > > You press down Arrow until windows 10 are on fokus > > When w

Re: Sv: Re: grub

2019-12-07 Thread john doe
On 12/7/2019 8:44 PM, john doe wrote: > On 12/7/2019 7:33 PM, mattias jonsson wrote: >> Can you read? >> >> Ok i should write if you was a idiot >> >> 1: i have both win10 and debian >> >> 2 when you start the computer and grub starts >> &g

Sv: Re: grub

2019-12-07 Thread mattias jonsson
Can you read?Ok i should write if you was a idiot1: i have both win10 and debian2 when you start the computer and grub startsYou press down Arrow until windows 10 are on fokusWhen windows 10 are on fokus grub beepsSkickades från E-post för Windows 10 Från: Jude DaShiellSkickat: den 7 december 2019

grub

2019-12-07 Thread mattias jonsson
I run both win 10 and debian on this machineAre it possible to get grub2 to beep when i are on the win 10 boot entry?I think I've read that it's going to go wellSkickades från E-post för Windows 10 

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-26 Thread Jude DaShiell
If a user learned their numbers in Morse code, the pc speaker could be used if one existed and pcspkr had been loaded. All a user would hear would be numbers once up and down arrows got used but if that user knew what would start with each number played, no need for sound cards at all. --

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-26 Thread am_dxer
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Martin McCormick wrote: > I absolutely hate what I call "press and pray" in which > the silent world prevails and you count button presses in the > silence and hope and pray that nothing weird happens. > > Failing s

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-24 Thread Jude DaShiell
No, probably the Smithsonian hasn't got your latest update though. On Wed, 24 Jul 2019, Paul Gevers wrote: > Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 14:45:56 > From: Paul Gevers > To: Jude DaShiell , > Martin McCormick , > debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: C

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-24 Thread Paul Gevers
Heh, On 24-07-2019 19:42, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Company is defunct and maybe you find one of those in an > accessibility technology museum exhibit along with emacspeak running on > another computer. Should I stop uploading *new upstream versions* of emacspeak then? Just did one upload last eveni

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-24 Thread Jude DaShiell
Jul 2019 12:48:27 > From: Martin McCormick > To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Can grub be made to talk? > Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 16:48:44 + (UTC) > Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org > > I can't count the number of

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-24 Thread Martin McCormick
y to grab that text and use it. Just some thoughts. Martin Samuel Thibault writes: > Hello, > > In addition to what was said: > > - grub is in C, so no need for learning assembly to contribute sound > drivers to it :) > > - the plan was to add sound support to

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-24 Thread David J. Ring, Jr.
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=morse+console&searchon=all&suite=stable§ion=all The one you want is aldo but unixcw is very nice.  Unixcw has both a gui and cli program but the cli program is called cw so many miss it. unixcw just sends Morse code. There is also a very old program

Re: More info about petitboot? - was {Re: Can grub be made to talk?}

2019-07-24 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/24/2019 06:07 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote: Richard Owlett, le mer. 24 juil. 2019 05:57:55 -0500, a ecrit: On 07/24/2019 01:40 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote: [snip] - petitboot is an interesting approach: you boot a Linux kernel that only runs petitboot, and there you can run a screen reader

Re: More info about petitboot? - was {Re: Can grub be made to talk?}

2019-07-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Richard Owlett, le mer. 24 juil. 2019 05:57:55 -0500, a ecrit: > On 07/24/2019 01:40 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > [snip] - petitboot is an interesting approach: you boot a Linux kernel > > that > >only runs petitboot, and there you can run a screen reader such as > >brltty. That can then

More info about petitboot? - was {Re: Can grub be made to talk?}

2019-07-24 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/24/2019 01:40 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote: [snip] - petitboot is an interesting approach: you boot a Linux kernel that only runs petitboot, and there you can run a screen reader such as brltty. That can then boot the real kernel for the targetted system. I had never heard of petitboo

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, In addition to what was said: - grub is in C, so no need for learning assembly to contribute sound drivers to it :) - the plan was to add sound support to grub, and pre-synthesize boot entry texts for grub to play. This plan is still only in todo lists, though. - petitboot is an

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-23 Thread Jude DaShiell
Where's the morse code training software for Linux that runs on the command line? Everything I've been able to find has eye candy interfaces. --

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-23 Thread Martin McCormick
t and actually spell out things. Again thanks. Didier Spaier writes: > Hello Martin, > > > I absolutely hate what I call "press and pray" in which > the silent world prevails and you count button presses in the > silence and hope and pray that nothing

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-23 Thread Martin McCormick
the issue of not being able to access grub > on where the VM are installed but that would eliminate playing with grub > "blindly". > > See (2) for serial console. > > 1) https://lwn.net/Articles/302159/ > 2) > https://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO/configure-boot-loader-grub.html > > > -- > John Doe > >

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-23 Thread Mgr. Janusz Chmiel
To make this talking GRUB to work, there would had to exist Assembly language group of specialists who would have a good will to develop 6 KH/Z 8 BIts mono simple monotone speech engine for Grub. I do not know, how many active developers work on Grub. Many boot managers are using Assembler

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-23 Thread Didier Spaier
Hello Martin, I absolutely hate what I call "press and pray" in which the silent world prevails and you count button presses in the silence and hope and pray that nothing weird happens. GRUB can't be made to talk, but it can play songs using its play command. So you can

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-23 Thread john doe
On 7/23/2019 6:59 PM, Martin McCormick wrote: > I confess that I am on the low end of the grub learning > curve but I need to make one debian system duel-boot with a > different debian version. One version is debian wheezy which I > want to keep because there are some PIC mic

Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-23 Thread Martin McCormick
I confess that I am on the low end of the grub learning curve but I need to make one debian system duel-boot with a different debian version. One version is debian wheezy which I want to keep because there are some PIC microcontroller development tools that make just fine in wheezy but