Re: current status of alpha in squeeze

On 29 Mar 2011, at 04:30, Michael Cree wrote: >> To build Debian packages for the alpha architecture - in the full-blown >> Debian way - a wanna-build server, buildd machine(s), and an apt repository >> will be needed. > > Official ones exist at the moment but, as noted above, it appears they m

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze

On 03-29 16:30, Michael Cree wrote: > On 29/03/2011, at 3:34 PM, Craig Prescott wrote: > >FWIW, though, I don't think we're going to get far asking Debian > >leadership about a *Squeeze* release on Alpha. I think that ship > >sailed in 2009. > > Absolutely. The time to do something about the Squ

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze

(Recipient list is getting a bit unwieldy. That's not necessarily a bad thing :-). Delighted to see all the interest in Alpha, even if it took "the community" a while to wake up.) Agreed that Steve Langasek is a logical/necessary person to contact if this revival has a chance of succeeding. As

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze - Storage Question - we will need to store the code some where - Fwd: Disk drives

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Robert Garron wrote: > Joel, > > Can your group do what Bill is asking below? > Similar to the change of 36 gig to 300 gig... > > Regards, > Robert > > --  Forwarded Message  -- > > Subject: Disk drives > Date: Mon March 28 2011 > From: Bill Parke

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze - Next Steps

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 3:09 AM, Robert Garron wrote: > Stop creating a new thread every time you reply. It makes reading the email chains difficult. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-alpha-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze - Storage Question - we will need to store the code some where - Fwd: Disk drives

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 07:01:23PM -0400, Bill Parke wrote: > As I don't have any of the various vendors disks. I would expect > somewhere, soon they will have drives that kowtow to 512 byte block to > help windows and MBR booting. I know WD has a Address+1 patch to make > MBR work in 512byte

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze - Next Steps

Craig, Hi - see below > On Mon March 28 2011 10:34:01 Craig Prescott wrote: > Robert Garron wrote: > > All I need is direction as to what to do, when to do (now), and who to > > contact (our growing list - but who in Debian land to contact). I do > > appreciate your provided list of

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze

On 29/03/2011, at 3:34 PM, Craig Prescott wrote: FWIW, though, I don't think we're going to get far asking Debian leadership about a *Squeeze* release on Alpha. I think that ship sailed in 2009. Absolutely. The time to do something about the Squeeze release was 18 months to 2 years ago a

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze

Robert Garron wrote: All I need is direction as to what to do, when to do (now), and who to contact (our growing list - but who in Debian land to contact). I do appreciate your provided list of contacts - I hope they all respond to our call to have Alpha Squeeze... I want to thank you for s

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze

Robert Garron wrote: Is it too late to organize a group and to have them work together to put alpha back on to the release list? I have been out of town. Sorry for the slow reply. I'd love to see Alpha back as a release architecture in Debian. But for this to happen, my intuition is that th

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze

Hi. > >>Are my computers interesting and/or practical for your purposes or are the > >>realy out-dated? > >They're pretty outdated, especially things older than EV6. For, say, > >an 800 MHz UP1500, it's a usable, if a bit slow, system. > Oh - i thought that the Alphas are very old - but not uesele

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze - Storage Question - we will need to store the code some where - Fwd: Disk drives

Hi, > > As I don't have any of the various vendors disks. I would expect > somewhere, soon they will have drives that kowtow to 512 byte block > to help windows and MBR booting. I know WD has a Address+1 patch > to make MBR work in 512byte mode. This is not alpha specific. Proper partitioning

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze - Storage Question - we will need to store the code some where - Fwd: Disk drives

On 3/28/2011 4:31 PM, Witold Baryluk wrote: On 03-28 12:43, Robert Garron wrote: Joel, Can your group do what Bill is asking below? Similar to the change of 36 gig to 300 gig... Regards, Robert -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Disk drives Date: Mon March 28 2011 From: Bill

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze

Thank you for helpful suggestions Am 28.03.2011 22:04, schrieb Matt Turner: On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:28 PM, A.B. wrote: I did not find any distribution which could run on my alphas. I've been not very exactly, sorry. In the past i already tried a very old version of a Mandrake version - succ

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze - Storage Question - we will need to store the code some where - Fwd: Disk drives

I was thinking... what about those SATA cards with SCSI emulation? maybe it can be possible to trick SRM into thinking it's an SCSI card. It's insane, I know... Currently, I keep the original 9GB SCSI disk and card just to boot the system, but I wonder if I can use one of those CF 2 IDE and assemb

RE: current status of alpha in squeeze - Storage Question - we will need to store the code some where - Fwd: Disk drives

Hi, > > As of disks, I have a one disk (Western Digital Caviar Green 1.5TB), > > which I can attach for a brief period of time into my Alpha, using PCI > > SATA controler. But I think other people is already using such disks > > in their machines. Can anybody confirm? > > I have a 1.5TB SATA disc

RE: current status of alpha in squeeze - Storage Question - we will need to store the code some where - Fwd: Disk drives

status of alpha in squeeze - Storage Question - we will need to store the code some where - Fwd: Disk drives On 03-28 12:43, Robert Garron wrote: > Joel, > > Can your group do what Bill is asking below? > Similar to the change of 36 gig to 300 gig... > >

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze - Storage Question - we will need to store the code some where - Fwd: Disk drives

On 03-29 09:44, Michael Cree wrote: > On 29/03/2011, at 9:31 AM, Witold Baryluk wrote: > >As of disks, I have a one disk (Western Digital Caviar Green 1.5TB), > >which I can attach for a brief period of time into my Alpha, > >using PCI SATA controler. But I think other people is already using > >su

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze - Storage Question - we will need to store the code some where - Fwd: Disk drives

On 03-28 17:42, Geoff Martin wrote: > I do use a 1TB disk on my 164LX using a pci SATA card. However I was never > able to boot from it. Maybe by pure lack of knowledge, or maybe because it's > not possible at all. If anyone know the magic, please share the magic words I think it is impossble to d

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze

On 03-28 21:11, Michael Cree wrote: > On 24/03/11 20:17, Robert Garron wrote: > >I just found out that alpha was dropped from squeeze > > [snip] > >; and it seems that a few other alpha enthusiasts are willing also > > I'm prepared to pitch in and help. I am not a Debian Developer, but > I have o

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze - Storage Question - we will need to store the code some where - Fwd: Disk drives

On 29/03/2011, at 9:31 AM, Witold Baryluk wrote: As of disks, I have a one disk (Western Digital Caviar Green 1.5TB), which I can attach for a brief period of time into my Alpha, using PCI SATA controler. But I think other people is already using such disks in their machines. Can anybody confirm?

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze - Storage Question - we will need to store the code some where - Fwd: Disk drives

I do use a 1TB disk on my 164LX using a pci SATA card. However I was never able to boot from it. Maybe by pure lack of knowledge, or maybe because it's not possible at all. If anyone know the magic, please share the magic words : ) Also, I can put myself and my machine (Microway AlphaPC 164LX 533m

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze - Storage Question - we will need to store the code some where - Fwd: Disk drives

On 03-28 12:43, Robert Garron wrote: > Joel, > > Can your group do what Bill is asking below? > Similar to the change of 36 gig to 300 gig... > > Regards, > Robert > > -- Forwarded Message -- > > Subject: Disk drives > Date: Mon March 28 2011 > From: Bill Parke > To: Robert

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:28 PM, A.B. wrote: > I did not find any distribution which could run on my alphas. I don't think you looked very hard. I wrote this page in Nov 2008 and it's barely changed since: http://alphalinux.org/wiki/index.php/Alpha_Linux_Wiki:Community_Portal#Distributions > Are

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze

Hello to the "new alpha team" I want to offer my help with my old Alpha computers. But I only can make installing and hardware tests (video-cards, memory, USB-cards, TV-cards? and other). Computers: DEC 500au and DEC 433au I did not find any distribution which could run on my alphas. Are my com

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Joel Nimar wrote: > Hi Robert: > Glad to hear from you and thank you for your kind words. Pyramid can help > you with firmware upgrades. We have microfiche and cd's that tell us the > minimal acceptable revision level for maintenance and a firmware library we > hav

current status of alpha in squeeze - Storage Question - we will need to store the code some where - Fwd: Disk drives

Joel, Can your group do what Bill is asking below? Similar to the change of 36 gig to 300 gig... Regards, Robert -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Disk drives Date: Mon March 28 2011 From: Bill Parke To: Robert Garron , Ken Ballou Ask Joel if SATA drives, with 4KB block s

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze

Michael Cree wrote: On 24/03/11 20:17, Robert Garron wrote: I just found out that alpha was dropped from squeeze > [snip] ; and it seems that a few other alpha enthusiasts are willing also I'm prepared to pitch in and help. I am not a Debian Developer, but I have over the last two or three

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze

Rafa, Hi - glad to hear that you can help. All willing workers are welcomed. We have a growing small group that can accomplish this task. Who know where it will lead and what opportunities and adventures it can open. You are on the growing group mailing list. We are getting organized and st

RE: current status of alpha in squeeze

a.net; gand...@gmail.com; Rafael Ruiz; bill.pa...@access3000.net; Richard Holstein; j...@pyramiddec.com Subject: Re: current status of alpha in squeeze Hi Phil- Well happy to connect with you. I agree we will have to move swiftly to get Alpha back in with Debian... All I need is direction

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze

Hi Phil- Well happy to connect with you. I agree we will have to move swiftly to get Alpha back in with Debian... All I need is direction as to what to do, when to do (now), and who to contact (our growing list - but who in Debian land to contact). I do appreciate your provided list of c

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze

[bcc'd to a few] --- On Mon, 3/28/11, Michael Cree wrote: > > I just found out that alpha was dropped from squeeze > > > [snip] > > ; and it seems that a few other alpha enthusiasts are > willing also > > I'm prepared to pitch in and help.  I am not a Debian > Developer, but I have over the last

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze

On 24/03/11 20:17, Robert Garron wrote: I just found out that alpha was dropped from squeeze > [snip] ; and it seems that a few other alpha enthusiasts are willing also I'm prepared to pitch in and help. I am not a Debian Developer, but I have over the last two or three years stepped up to

Re: Re: current status of alpha in squeeze

Hi -- I just found out that alpha was dropped from squeeze due to the fact that Arthur Loiret was unable to complete the work for the release, as he was working alone. Had I known this way earlier I would have volunteer services to help Arthur; and it seems that a few other alpha enthusiasts

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze

On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 09:57:38PM +1030, Karl Goetz wrote: > On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:21:17 +0200 > Andreas Barth wrote: > > * Arthur Loiret (aloi...@debian.org) [090816 00:06]: > > > To be short, I still intend to help for the alpha port, but I don't > > > think it will be enough for an official re

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze

On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:21:17 +0200 Andreas Barth wrote: Forgive my ignorance, but I've got a question. > * Arthur Loiret (aloi...@debian.org) [090816 00:06]: > > To be short, I still intend to help for the alpha port, but I don't > > think it will be enough for an official release. It would be gr

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze

* Arthur Loiret (aloi...@debian.org) [090816 00:06]: > To be short, I still intend to help for the alpha port, but I don't > think it will be enough for an official release. It would be great if > some other interested people had time to dedicate to the port. Unfortunatly we have to agree with thi

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze

Hi Steve, Sorry for the long time to answer, I'm just back from six weeks without a real Internet connection. Unfortunately, I'm going to have limited time to dedicate to Debian for the next months. I should still be able to sign build logs, do manual rebuilds for FTBFS, and fix some of them when

current status of alpha in squeeze

Hi Arthur, At DebConf, the release team has discussed the state of the various Debian ports and their viability for squeeze, and a number of concerns were expressed about alpha. I've added a couple more serious issues to the list on