On 22 Aug 2008, at 10:34 pm, Gary Lee Phillips wrote:
Institutions and individuals in tight financial situations or in less
technically advanced areas continue to use Alphas because they are
what is
available. Buying newer 64-bit machines may simply be out of the
question
for them.
I
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Tim Cutts [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
On 22 Aug 2008, at 10:34 pm, Gary Lee Phillips wrote:
Institutions and individuals in tight financial situations or in less
technically advanced areas continue to use Alphas because they are what is
available. Buying newer
On Aug 28, 2008, at 05:49, Steve Langasek wrote:
Sometimes it isn't about what is most efficient. Besides if you
have a
working machine why buy a new one (unless electricity starts to
cost too
much to justify the old one running).
It was precisely my point that I think that replacing an
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:36:22PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
Are there other developers still actively using alpha who are willing to do
the work to maintain it? Or perhaps a more important question: does anyone
foresee themselves still using alpha three years from now (1.5 years of
lenny
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:05:36AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
I hadn't noticed too many apha build failures lately. I figured that
was because the alpha is 64bit little endian just like amd64 and hence
the problems should be mostly the same. Making gcc and java work is
always an issue
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There's the list of failed packages, as well as
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(which is a lot more informative than I expected it to be, really). And
then there's the need for someone to take care
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 02:49:49AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
So your point in posting was to make insulting rhetorical comparisons and
browbeat developers into carrying on supporting an architecture that has
ceased to be useful to them (and almost everyone else in the world)?
No my point
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 02:16:41PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
Thanks to all who've replied so far. It sounds like we're generally where I
thought we would be at this point in time: there are a number of people
still using alphas (in particular, folks who have newer and better models
than
Hi all:
First of all, I'm quite sad to see Debian stopping the support for the
Alpha architecture but I (as Gentoo/Alpha developer) can understand you
very well when talking about benefits vs problems generating to the
distribution in order to keep active the port and the people needed
to
Hi Bob,
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 08:35:56AM -0500, Bob Tracy wrote:
Are there other developers still actively using alpha who are willing to do
the work to maintain it? Or perhaps a more important question: does anyone
foresee themselves still using alpha three years from now (1.5 years
On Thu 21 Aug 2008, Steve Langasek wrote:
Are there other developers still actively using alpha who are willing to do
the work to maintain it? Or perhaps a more important question: does anyone
foresee themselves still using alpha three years from now (1.5 years of
lenny as stable, + 1 year
I should perhaps keep quiet since I'm not capable of taking on this task
myself. However, I think this point needs to be considered even if future
Alpha support is still to be frozen and dropped:
The Microsoft-Intel steamroller has literally flattened the microcomputer
field into one of dangerous
Steve Langasek escribió:
Hi folks,
With lenny just around the corner, I think it's time to start thinking about
the future of the Debian alpha port for lenny+1 and beyond.
I've noticed some time before, early in the lenny cycle, that the alpha port
is no longer useful to me personally. It's
Hi Steve and everybody here!
I am a proud Linux user and an Alpha AXP fan (for what it means these
days...)
I think that having Linux support on Alpha is still a positive goal,
like having m68k support and taking care about 386/486/586 vintage
machines.
I am not interested into m68k, or
On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 11:28 +0200, Paul Slootman wrote:
On Thu 21 Aug 2008, Steve Langasek wrote:
Are there other developers still actively using alpha who are willing to do
the work to maintain it? Or perhaps a more important question: does anyone
foresee themselves still using alpha
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:36:22PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
With lenny just around the corner, I think it's time to start thinking about
the future of the Debian alpha port for lenny+1 and beyond.
This day was coming. When an architecture is no longer being manufactured, it's
difficult to
Well, personally, I can say that my Alpha is almost never on anymore.
There was a time when using it to render stuff from Blender as part of
a renderfarm made sense. At this point, the other machines on the
network are enough faster that I just don't bother with the loud old
beast.
That said,
--- On Fri, 8/22/08, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi folks,
With lenny just around the corner, I think it's time to
start thinking about
the future of the Debian alpha port for lenny+1 and beyond.
Steve, and all others involved in keeping my favourite OS running on my
favourite
On Thursday 21 August 2008 21:36:22 Steve Langasek wrote:
If not, I think it's time to look at retiring the alpha port gracefully as
a release architecture. Alpha has had a long, proud run in Debian, but if
alpha/lenny+1 isn't actually going to be useful to anyone, and no one is
really
Dear List
Quoting Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Thoughts?
My Alpha is an internet server holding eMail of about 110 users and
websever for around 50 domains among other services. I don't know why
this is a DEC Alpha, but it is since several years. The project is to
support cultural
Thanks to all who've replied so far. It sounds like we're generally where I
thought we would be at this point in time: there are a number of people
still using alphas (in particular, folks who have newer and better models
than I), including some who expect to still be running theirs in
I can give partial answers to two of your questions, Steve, though neither
is going to be enough to create an argument to counter your own conclusions.
Institutions and individuals in tight financial situations or in less
technically advanced areas continue to use Alphas because they are what is
Hi folks,
With lenny just around the corner, I think it's time to start thinking about
the future of the Debian alpha port for lenny+1 and beyond.
I've noticed some time before, early in the lenny cycle, that the alpha port
is no longer useful to me personally. It's still been fun to hack on
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