Re: future of ATX?

2006-09-07 Thread Jo Shields
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Slightly off topic but I'm soon going to be making a new computer (my first in 12 years) and will be using AMD with Debian. The standard board/power/box form-factor has been ATX for a while. Does anyone see anything else on the horizon? I plan to buy a good case and

Re: chroot and ia32libs combined

2006-09-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Seb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another question that nobody seems to mention in the various how-tos is what happens if you have say both the same 64-bit app in the main system and 32-bit app in the chroot? Because /home is mounted in both systems, each version will be messing with each

64-bit iptables and netfilter problems

2006-09-07 Thread Laurence J. Lane
Linux 2.6.17 introduced kernel changes that probably solve the 64-bit alignment problems reported against the iptables package. The changes might have solved all the 64-bit issues--I really don't know, but I closed all of the bug reports anyway. Please file new reports where appropriate or mail

Re: chroot and ia32libs combined

2006-09-07 Thread Martin Jambor
On 9/6/06, Seb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in the same situation with Firefox as you are, but do not see the extension compatibility wizard kicking in. The danger I see is the 64-bit and 32-bit versions modifying ~/.mozilla differently, which may mess the files up at some point. As far as

Re: Opteron or Athlon 64 FX?

2006-09-07 Thread dtutty
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 01:22:00AM -0500, Marc D.M. wrote: On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 19:57 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 10:11:52PM -0500, Marc D.M. wrote: On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 20:44 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 06:58:10PM -0500, Marc

Re: Opteron or Athlon 64 FX?

2006-09-07 Thread Jo Shields
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 01:22:00AM -0500, Marc D.M. wrote: On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 19:57 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 10:11:52PM -0500, Marc D.M. wrote: On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 20:44 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On

Re: Opteron or Athlon 64 FX?

2006-09-07 Thread tomek . fizyk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] napisaƂ: On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 01:22:00AM -0500, Marc D.M. wrote: On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 19:57 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 10:11:52PM -0500, Marc D.M. wrote: On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 20:44 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at

Re: chroot and ia32libs combined

2006-09-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Martin Jambor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 9/6/06, Seb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in the same situation with Firefox as you are, but do not see the extension compatibility wizard kicking in. The danger I see is the 64-bit and 32-bit versions modifying ~/.mozilla differently, which may mess

Re: chroot and ia32libs combined

2006-09-07 Thread Seb
On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 09:27:08 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] It isn't. Even worse is when the 32bit and 64bit ~/.application file are incompatible. One should consider that a bug but it has happened. My suggestion is: Don't do it. If you need the 32bit version

Re: chroot and ia32libs combined

2006-09-07 Thread Corey Hickey
Martin Jambor wrote: On 9/6/06, Seb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in the same situation with Firefox as you are, but do not see the extension compatibility wizard kicking in. The danger I see is the 64-bit and 32-bit versions modifying ~/.mozilla differently, which may mess the files up at

Re: Opteron or Athlon 64 FX?

2006-09-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 10:03:29AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about the merits of ECC memory? My previous computers have always had it and the hardware-HOWTO says to always use it. Now, it seems, that if one wants ECC they have to go Opteron. What has changed? Is generic memory

Re: future of ATX?

2006-09-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 08:00:23PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Slightly off topic but I'm soon going to be making a new computer (my first in 12 years) and will be using AMD with Debian. The standard board/power/box form-factor has been ATX for a while. Does anyone see anything else on

Re: future of ATX?

2006-09-07 Thread dtutty
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 02:05:09PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 08:00:23PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The standard board/power/box form-factor has been ATX for a while. Does anyone see anything else on the horizon? I plan to buy a good case and power supply

Re: future of ATX?

2006-09-07 Thread A.E.Lawrence
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that processors keep getting faster, but is the other technology that makes up the computer settling out? E.g. PCI has been out for a long time. PCI Express is a significant advance over standard PCI. (Better physics, primarily.) ael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Opteron or Athlon 64 FX?

2006-09-07 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 10:03:29AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about the merits of ECC memory? My previous computers have always had it and the hardware-HOWTO says to always use it. Now, it seems, that if one wants ECC they have to go Opteron. What has changed? Is generic memory

etch netinstall beta3 encryption

2006-09-07 Thread sigi
Hi, today I tried to install debian with the actual etch beta3 netinst.iso - and failed with the new encryption possibility... I wanted to encrypt all partitions without /boot, and tried to configure its own partitions for '/boot' '/' and '/home'. After this partman showed that /boot would

Re: future of ATX?

2006-09-07 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 03:18:56PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For motherboard brands, are some better for Linux and reliability in general than others? AMD tech-support says they're all the same. Do I just list the jacks I want and see which is cheaper, integrated vs. separate PCI

Re: povray

2006-09-07 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 16:50:07 +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: Hi all: Has anyone tried to install povray debian package and run it on either a 32bit machine or a chroot on amd64? I would like to embellish with povray a series of lectures. I tried on a 32bit etch debian machine.

povray

2006-09-07 Thread Francesco Pietra
Hi all: Has anyone tried to install povray debian package and run it on either a 32bit machine or a chroot on amd64? I would like to embellish with povray a series of lectures. I tried on a 32bit etch debian machine. Apparently it installs correctly, however I was unable to get command lines

povray

2006-09-07 Thread Francesco Pietra
Hi all: Has anyone tried to install povray debian package and run it on either a 32bit machine or a chroot on amd64? I would like to embellish with povray a series of lectures. I tried on a 32bit etch debian machine. Apparently it installs correctly, however I was unable to get command lines

Re: povray

2006-09-07 Thread Steven Dobson
Francesco On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 17:03 +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: Has anyone tried to install povray debian package and run it on either a 32bit machine or a chroot on amd64? I have. I would like to embellish with povray a series of lectures. In fact I used pvray to bench mark the