Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-16 Thread Erik Mouw
On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 05:17:25PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > There are very few hardware raid cards that do SATA. 3ware is one > maker, and I think adaptec has one or two models (most of theirs are not > hardware raid), and highpoint migh thave one model. The 3ware is the > only one I know

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-16 Thread eternalnewbee
What can you currently buy that is better than the 3ware for > running with Linux? Areca. 3ware seems to be sitting on their laurels lately. That makes me very uneasy. What you want is Areca. http://www.areca.com.tw Too bad their web site or rather ftp server is a mess. Many of the links on

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-16 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 06:19:54AM +0300, eternalnewbee wrote: > But, I am not interested in whether it was sw raid or not --not that > box anyway. > > All I wanted was the raid *functionality*. I dont care if it comes > through sw or lord knows what. I need raid that works accross multiple > OSes

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-15 Thread eternalnewbee
As I said earlier, SW RAID wass out of question: the box was to have multi-OS installation. You ARE using software raid, just with some BIOS support and drivers for windows. That doesn't change it from being software raid. I think I even read in a magazine recently how eo enable software raid

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-15 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 09:18:27PM +0300, eternalnewbee wrote: > As I said earlier, SW RAID wass out of question: the box was to > have multi-OS installation. You ARE using software raid, just with some BIOS support and drivers for windows. That doesn't change it from being software raid. I thin

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-15 Thread eternalnewbee
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 04:15:14PM +0300, eternalnewbee wrote: But, to have to buy another card just to be able to run Debian >>is sort of an overkill, isn't it? Well I wouldn't use the raid feature of that card in the first place. > I would either buy a 3ware raid

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-15 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 04:15:14PM +0300, eternalnewbee wrote: > Naturally you are not responsible for the evils in the world :-) > so don't take this as a personal world :-) But, to have to buy > another card just to be able to run Debian is sort of an overkill, > isn't it? Well I wouldn't use th

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-15 Thread Cameron Patrick
eternalnewbee wrote: > >This one is at least supported in 2.6.10 and above, in plain SATA mode. > >Using the proprietary software raid crap in the Sil chips isn't > >recomended. > > Why not? > > The lowly Windows has been doing just fine with SiI; why is it not > recommended under Linux? Linu

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-15 Thread eternalnewbee
> so don't take this as a personal world Sorry for the typo, I meant: so please don't take this personal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-15 Thread eternalnewbee
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 03:22:27PM +0300, eternalnewbee wrote: I have a Windows 2003 Server with 4 RAID cards, and it is a little easier (than say WinXP, I suppose) to get their PCI IDs under Win2K3. The first one below is 3Ware RAID card which has had its driver as par

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-15 Thread eternalnewbee
Erik Mouw wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 03:22:27PM +0300, eternalnewbee wrote: I too have had similar installation problems with SATA-RAID stuff with SiI chipset and I was forced not to use Debian. SiI SATA RAID is not hardware RAID. See Jeff Garzik's SATA RAID FAQ at http://linux.yyz.us/sat

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-15 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 03:22:27PM +0300, eternalnewbee wrote: > I have a Windows 2003 Server with 4 RAID cards, and it is a little > easier (than say WinXP, I suppose) to get their PCI IDs under Win2K3. > > The first one below is 3Ware RAID card which has had its driver > as part of Linux kernel

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-15 Thread Erik Mouw
On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 03:22:27PM +0300, eternalnewbee wrote: > I too have had similar installation problems with SATA-RAID stuff > with SiI chipset and I was forced not to use Debian. SiI SATA RAID is not hardware RAID. See Jeff Garzik's SATA RAID FAQ at http://linux.yyz.us/sata/faq-sata-raid.ht

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-15 Thread eternalnewbee
Cameron Patrick wrote: Yes, that would be great. It might also be possible to get PCI IDs from within Windows XP, but I'm not sure how to go about doing that. Hi Cameron, I have a Windows 2003 Server with 4 RAID cards, and it is a little easier (than say WinXP, I suppose) to get their PCI IDs

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-06 Thread Tudiatya
Yeah, that's what I'm really thinking about : to install Knoppix onto the HDD, and then to upgrade (or downgrade?) ;) it to Sarge. Although I like the Knoppix interface .. ;) Thank you for the idea :) Ciao: Tudiatya (Eperkutyus too) :) > Sorry, I misunderstood -- I thought you wanted to get Deb

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-06 Thread Tudiatya
I thank YOU for the answers .. ;) > Thanks for the detailed response. I agree that the OC wasn't an issue in > your case, which is why I placed [OT] (off-topice) in the subject line. I > assume that many AMD64 users are going to OC, because the platform is easily > capable of it, so I thought it

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-05 Thread David Liontooth
Tudiatya wrote: >>I wasn't arguing against overclocking, just turn it off for the sake of >>getting an installation going. >>You'll be loosing sympathy fast if you insist on creating unnecessary >>installation problems. Once >>you have your system installed you can solve this secondary issue. >>

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-05 Thread Tudiatya
tony, a normal system looks like following: PCI Bus - 33 MHz fixed AGP - 66MHz fixed FSB - Front Side Bus - variable, normally (usually) 200MHz on intel and amd platforms. Now, the issue you're talking about: My Athlon64 3000+ runs at 1800 MHz real. That's 200 FSB * 9. If I raise FSB to 278, 27

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-05 Thread Tudiatya
> I wasn't arguing against overclocking, just turn it off for the sake of > getting an installation going. > You'll be loosing sympathy fast if you insist on creating unnecessary > installation problems. Once > you have your system installed you can solve this secondary issue. Unnecessary installa

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-05 Thread Tudiatya
Amazing !!! Knoppix found my HDD without any questions and mapped my ntfs partitions as read only into /mnt/sda1...10 .. GREAT ! Kernel is 2.6.11 (newest Knoppix live CD, just got it from the website an hour ago or so..) Alright, here's what you wanted. :) LSPCI : :00:00.0 Host bridge: nVi

[OT] Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-05 Thread tony mancill
David Liontooth wrote: > Tudiatya wrote: > > >>if my CPU support >>higher speeds, I won't let it go by default. >> >> > > I wasn't arguing against overclocking, just turn it off for the sake of > getting an installation going. > You'll be loosing sympathy fast if you insist on creating unnecess

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-05 Thread David Liontooth
Tudiatya wrote: > if my CPU support >higher speeds, I won't let it go by default. > > I wasn't arguing against overclocking, just turn it off for the sake of getting an installation going. You'll be loosing sympathy fast if you insist on creating unnecessary installation problems. Once you have

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-05 Thread Tudiatya
Ah.. I'm givin' up :( Look, some web pages say, my Neo2 Platinum uses 3114, you say it uses 3512. I'm confused. But anyway, it uses sata_sil, in that we agree at least, so forget the numbers.. they don't matter.. sata_sil will be our starting-out point. "I don't get the point oif overclocking, s

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-05 Thread Harald Dunkel
Tudiatya wrote: > No, I didn't try sata_sil .. I don't know, how. :) The Debian Installer > modules list (which modules to load) doesn't contain sata_sil, only sata_nv. > :( > If the debian-installer doesn't support your SATA device, then the standard procedure would be to send the output of lspc

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-05 Thread David Liontooth
Intel chipset I had that Compatibility mode where if a >controller was disabled, higher numbered channels took it's number, but now >that's not the way to handle it. But anyway, if linux does have sata_sil >already, we just need to put it into the menu of the debian installer as a

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-05 Thread Cameron Patrick
Tudiatya wrote: > Okay, I went from the installer to "Execute a shell", but in the shell, > lspci was not recognized as a command, so this won't take me further. :( (I > don't have Linux, WinXP only ! Would it help you if I let a Suse Live CD run > and lspci from there?) Yes, that would be great.

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-05 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 01:21:24AM +0200, Tudiatya wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm using a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum - 4 SATA port, 2 of them nVidia, 2 of them > Silicon Image controllers. The built-in nvidia controller isn't much useful, > since it's clock isn't fixed 33MHz - as I raise "FSB", it raises t

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-05 Thread Tudiatya
sata_sil already, we just need to put it into the menu of the debian installer as a loadable module, or am I wrong ? :( Sry for being so long ... - Original Message ----- From: "Cameron Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 12:53 PM Subject: Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-05 Thread Cameron Patrick
Tudiatya wrote: > No, I didn't try sata_sil .. I don't know, how. :) The Debian Installer > modules list (which modules to load) doesn't contain sata_sil, only sata_nv. > :( Hi, While the SiI controllers should normally be fairly well supported, but what you say suggests that the installer hasn'

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-05 Thread Tudiatya
No, I didn't try sata_sil .. I don't know, how. :) The Debian Installer modules list (which modules to load) doesn't contain sata_sil, only sata_nv. :( -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: SATA Silicon Image 3114 support for A64 images ?

2005-06-05 Thread Harald Dunkel
Tudiatya wrote: > Hi there, > > Do you dear Debian Sarge driver developers see ANY chance of integrating > this module into the Debian Installer's module list ? Lots of A64 > motherboards use this, I use DDR500 anyway, CPU @ 2500 instead of basic 1800 > . Sometimes I play, sometimes I would use De