Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-10 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
On 09.08.2011 17:46, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: single-lane PCI-e is still only gigabit, phil, and SATA-II is 3.0 gb/s. so it still really doesn't cut the mustard. you'd need a 4x PCI-e to meet the SATA-II specification There are many PCIe SATA controllers with x1 slot - Sil3132

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-10 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Aug 9, 2011, at 16:21, Phil Endecott wrote: Jeremiah Foster jeremiah at jeremiahfoster.com writes: Sure. Here's a link: http://jeremiahfoster.com/trimslice/ Right, so that's a half-size SATA SSD (JEDEC MO-297). Nice that they're using a standard form-factor with a connector. Would a

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-10 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Tim Small t...@buttersideup.com wrote: On 09/08/11 16:46, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:  single-lane PCI-e is still only gigabit AFAIK, single-lane 1st generation PCIe is 2.5 gigabit, and 2nd generation is 5 gigabit.  Also significant is the

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-10 Thread Tim Small
On 09/08/11 16:46, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: single-lane PCI-e is still only gigabit AFAIK, single-lane 1st generation PCIe is 2.5 gigabit, and 2nd generation is 5 gigabit. Also significant is the max-payload-size capabilities of either end of the link (lspci -vv). A lot of

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-10 Thread Jeff Hoogland
Trimslice just started a opensource developer program. They'll give you a unit for 175usd plus shipping. -- ~Jeff Hoogland http://JeffHoogland.com On Wed Aug 10 2011 07:42:33 AM CDT, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton l...@lkcl.net wrote: On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 1:35 PM, David Given

Re: [Arm-netbook] Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-10 Thread Gordan Bobic
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:42:33 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton l...@lkcl.net wrote: On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 1:35 PM, David Given d...@cowlark.com wrote: Are there any decent-looking Cortex A9 boards out or upcoming which support ethernet and SATA? So far I've found: PandaBoard --- $180,

Re: [Arm-netbook] Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-10 Thread Gordan Bobic
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:39:19 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton luke.leigh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Gordan Bobic gor...@bobich.net wrote:  question (for everyone): if there existed a board which used a single-core 800mhz Cortex A9, maximum hard limit of 512mb RAM,

Re: [Arm-netbook] Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-10 Thread Gordan Bobic
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 15:46:11 +0200, Arnaud Patard (Rtp) arnaud.pat...@rtp-net.org wrote: Gordan Bobic gor...@bobich.net writes: On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:42:33 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton l...@lkcl.net wrote: On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 1:35 PM, David Given d...@cowlark.com wrote: Are there

Re: [Arm-netbook] Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-10 Thread David Given
Gordan Bobic wrote: [...] The overheating is muchly exaggerated. The white ones - same CPU/ARM, but no eSATA plumbed in (you can solder it on, though), have no fan in them. I have one, and it's regularly used for a few days' worth of compiling jobs at a time, and yes, it gets quite warm, but

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 01:42:33PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: ok... yes, i can ask. question (for everyone): if there existed a board which used a single-core 800mhz Cortex A9, maximum hard limit of 512mb RAM, but also had SATA-II and 10/100 Ethernet, would it be of

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-10 Thread Phil Endecott
Hi Luke, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton lkcl at lkcl.net writes: question (for everyone): if there existed a board which used a single-core 800mhz Cortex A9, maximum hard limit of 512mb RAM, but also had SATA-II and 10/100 Ethernet, would it be of interest, and how much would you pay for it?

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-09 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Aug 8, 2011, at 16:34, Andrew McGlashan wrote: Hi, Jeremiah Foster wrote: I just have a developers model. Here's a link to a couple pictures of the machine I have FWIW; http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeremiah_foster/6021909246/ Grrr, no good, I don't want to have a flickr account and

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-09 Thread Jeremiah Foster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 8, 2011, at 17:32, David Given wrote: Jeremiah Foster wrote: [...] I just have a developers model. Here's a link to a couple pictures of the machine I have FWIW; http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeremiah_foster/6021909246/ Seems to be

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-09 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 11:36:08AM +0200, Jeremiah Foster wrote: On Aug 8, 2011, at 16:34, Andrew McGlashan wrote: I think we need a good comparison / feature / selection page -- choose the requirements, then see the result: USB 2.0 ports ports yes / no how many [ ] USB 3.0 ports

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-09 Thread Phil Endecott
Jeremiah Foster jeremiah at jeremiahfoster.com writes: Sure. Here's a link: http://jeremiahfoster.com/trimslice/ Right, so that's a half-size SATA SSD (JEDEC MO-297). Nice that they're using a standard form-factor with a connector. Would a full-size 2.5 drive fit? It looks like it might hit

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-09 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Jeremiah Foster jerem...@jeremiahfoster.com wrote: I think we need a good comparison / feature / selection page -- choose the requirements, then see the result:   USB 2.0 ports ports yes / no how many [ ]   USB 3.0 ports ports yes / no how many [ ]   Fast

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-09 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Phil Endecott spam_from_debian_...@chezphil.org wrote: I don't know what they've done on the Trimslice. My understanding of the Tegra is that it doesn't have SATA but it does have PCIe, so in principle that could be used with a controller chip to provide fast

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-08 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
On 06.08.2011 14:35, David Given wrote: Igloo Snowball --- $209, ethernet, no SATA (but other than that a very nice looking device). Also lack USB Host port - all you have is OTG one. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-08 Thread Jeremiah Foster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 6, 2011, at 14:35, David Given wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/11 01:37, Phil Endecott wrote: [...] Don't buy it from Freescale; their website is unusable. There are two or three distributors who sell

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-08 Thread David Given
Jeremiah Foster wrote: [...] Trimslice does have SATA. It is oddly placed under the board so it is hard to see and they put a small Sandisk SSD in the SATA slot. Looks like it is SATA 1, but I'd need to dig into the specs to be certain. You'll have to remove at least one of the panels to

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-08 Thread Jeremiah Foster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 8, 2011, at 13:10, David Given wrote: Jeremiah Foster wrote: [...] Trimslice does have SATA. It is oddly placed under the board so it is hard to see and they put a small Sandisk SSD in the SATA slot. Looks like it is SATA 1, but I'd

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, Jeremiah Foster wrote: I just have a developers model. Here's a link to a couple pictures of the machine I have FWIW; http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeremiah_foster/6021909246/ Grrr, no good, I don't want to have a flickr account and to see the pic, you need to be signed in. Please give

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-08 Thread David Given
Jeremiah Foster wrote: [...] I just have a developers model. Here's a link to a couple pictures of the machine I have FWIW; http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeremiah_foster/6021909246/ Seems to be locked --- when I try to view the image it prompts me for a login. [...] That may be the case in

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-08 Thread Phil Endecott
David Given dg at cowlark.com writes: it appears that the SATA port [on the Trimslice] is actually connected via USB internally and so, really, doesn't count. I don't know what they've done on the Trimslice. My understanding of the Tegra is that it doesn't have SATA but it does have PCIe, so

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-08 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 04:07:06PM +, Phil Endecott wrote: Hi Steve, Steve McIntyre steve.mcintyre at linaro.org writes: Hi folks, We've got a number of discount vouchers for these Too late for me... We're about to purchase a number of these for buildds for the Debian armhf port Hmm.

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-08 Thread Phil Endecott
Phil Endecott spam_from_debian_arm at chezphil.org writes: David Given dg at cowlark.com writes: it appears that the SATA port [on the Trimslice] is actually connected via USB internally and so, really, doesn't count. I don't know what they've done on the Trimslice. Ah, I do now and

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-06 Thread Phil Endecott
David Given dg at cowlark.com writes: Are there any decent-looking Cortex A9 boards out or upcoming which support ethernet and SATA? So far I've found: PandaBoard --- $180, ethernet, no SATA. Samsung Origen --- $250, no ethernet, no SATA. Igloo Snowball --- $209, ethernet, no SATA (but

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-06 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 1:35 PM, David Given d...@cowlark.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/11 01:37, Phil Endecott wrote: [...] Don't buy it from Freescale; their website is unusable.  There are two or three distributors who sell it, and their websites are

Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-05 Thread Steve McIntyre
Hi folks, We've got a number of discount vouchers for these, ready to give away to any deserving folks. Normal price is USD 149, but the voucher saves USD 50. See http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=IMX53QSB for more details about the hardware. We're about to

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-05 Thread Phil Endecott
Hi Steve, Steve McIntyre steve.mcintyre at linaro.org writes: Hi folks, We've got a number of discount vouchers for these Too late for me... We're about to purchase a number of these for buildds for the Debian armhf port Hmm. Are you sure it's the best choice? It has a single Cortex A8

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-05 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 04:07:06PM +, Phil Endecott wrote: Hi Steve, Steve McIntyre steve.mcintyre at linaro.org writes: Hi folks, We've got a number of discount vouchers for these Too late for me... We're about to purchase a number of these for buildds for the Debian armhf

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-05 Thread Phil Endecott
lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 04:07:06PM +, Phil Endecott wrote: Hi Steve, Steve McIntyre steve.mcintyre at linaro.org writes: Hi folks, We've got a number of discount vouchers for these Too late for me... We're about to purchase a number of these for

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-05 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 05:25:19PM +0100, Phil Endecott wrote: Well I use NFS almost exclusively for everything every day, and I've never experienced any nightmares. I find NFS timestamps are not accurate enough for make in many cases. I have seen many failures when using NFS and running make.

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-05 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Lennart Sorensen lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 05:25:19PM +0100, Phil Endecott wrote: Well I use NFS almost exclusively for everything every day, and I've never experienced any nightmares. I find NFS timestamps are not accurate

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-05 Thread David Given
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/05/11 12:35, Steve McIntyre wrote: [...] http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=IMX53QSB Oo. Very nice. Cortex A8, 1GB RAM, SATA, ethernet, *and* reasonably priced... if only it had an extra ethernet socket it'd be an

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-05 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 10:57 PM, David Given d...@cowlark.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/05/11 12:35, Steve McIntyre wrote: [...]   http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=IMX53QSB Oo. Very nice. Cortex A8, 1GB RAM, SATA, ethernet,

Re: Freescale iMX53 Quick Start board

2011-08-05 Thread Phil Endecott
David Given dg at cowlark.com writes: What's Freescale's shipping and handling like? Don't buy it from Freescale; their website is unusable. There are two or three distributors who sell it, and their websites are not quite as awful. I got mine from Mouser for £111 inclusive of postage and all