Bug#533407: Testing weekly image does not detect hard drive.

2009-06-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 17 June 2009, Otavio Salvador wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:02 AM, Untitleduntitled@gmail.com wrote: INFO: Menu item 'disk-detect' selected net/hw-detect.hotplug: Detected hotpluggable network interface eth0 net/hw-detect.hotplug: Detected hotpluggable network interface

Bug#533407: Testing weekly image does not detect hard drive.

2009-06-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 17 June 2009, Frans Pop wrote: Jun 17 12:39:26 main-menu[1076]: (process:5905): parted_devices: error while loading shared libraries: libparted-1.8.so.10: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Just as I expected: the new version of libparted is screwing things

Bug#533407: Testing weekly image does not detect hard drive.

2009-06-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 17 June 2009, Otavio Salvador wrote: When I read the log I read it as it hasn't find the file of the module .. not that the module has failed to find  the device. So what? That module really has nothing at all to do with normal hard disk controllers. How many people do you think

[RFC] Listing USB devices in hardware-summary

2009-06-17 Thread Frans Pop
Because /proc/bus/usb/devices is going away in 2.6.31 (patch got merged in kernel upstream mainline today), we are going to need an alternative way to list USB devices in the hardware summary. The file is being moved to debugfs, but I don't think mounting debugfs just to get this info is the

Re: Log from the June 1st 2009 D-I team meeting

2009-06-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 03 June 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: I agree that, in that case, things may be debated as this somewhat closes things down in a case where there is no strong need. So, well, I'm ready to discuss about this again. After all, what we need here is a placeholder and it's quite

List spam cleanup: half-time scores

2009-06-16 Thread Frans Pop
of the cleanup for 2006/01 to 2009/05 === NameNr. of months scanned - --- Frans Pop 41 (well, I did start the initiative...) Holger Wansing 36 Christian

Re: [RFC] IMPORTANT: Cleaning l10n-sync damage from D-I SVN repository

2009-06-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 03 June 2009, Frans Pop wrote: As you may remember we had a problem before the release of Lenny with the l10n-sync script running wild and creating an insanely large Danish PO file for sublevel 4. This was eventually corrected, but the commits increasing the size of that da.po

Re: Little preseed question

2009-06-08 Thread Frans Pop
...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/6/6 Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl For include kernel parameters in all Grub entries, I thing can be something like this: d-i preseed/late_command string /target/bin/sed s/#kopt/kopt=$KERNEL_PARAMETERS/ menu.lst /target/boot/grub/menu.lst I think an easy way

Re: Little preseed question

2009-06-06 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 06 June 2009, MaTa wrote: In debian-installer, using preseed file, in grub-install step, How I can specify some kernel parameters in the grub menu.lst entry of the installed system? How I can change the default parameters? Can I specify any instruction like d-i

Re: Little preseed question

2009-06-06 Thread Frans Pop
No need to CC me on replies. I read the list. On Saturday 06 June 2009, MaTa wrote: Sorry If I hasn't explained so well. But I want modify the entry of the installed system, no the execution of the debian-installer. I want change the menu.lst of the /target system, no the debian-installer

Re: Little preseed question

2009-06-06 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 06 June 2009, MaTa wrote: Thanks. Yes, I'm thinking in a little script for a late_command, with sed. Like: d-i preseed/late_command string sed 's/kernel something/kernel something vga=0x17/g' /target/boot/grub/menu.lst I think can work... Yes that would work. Or you could drop a

Re: [RFC] IMPORTANT: Cleaning l10n-sync damage from D-I SVN repository

2009-06-05 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 04 June 2009, Bastian Blank wrote: A tag is a copy, but the files are not actually copied. So if I change the file in trunk in a revision before the tag, the tagged version of the file will automatically change as well. You can change the file along with the copy operation.

Re: [RFC] IMPORTANT: Cleaning l10n-sync damage from D-I SVN repository

2009-06-05 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 05 June 2009, Bastian Blank wrote: On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 10:42:39PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: As a result of the cleanup the 'svnadmin dump' file shrinks by more than 2GB (!) and the repository database shrinks from 2.4GB to 1.7GB. A direct dump and load gives the following: | wa

Re: Which kernels to include on ISOs? (Was: Re: Netboot Xen images for amd64)

2009-06-04 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 04 June 2009, Ian Campbell wrote: On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 01:10 +0200, Frans Pop wrote: [...snipped a bunch of good points which I won't contest...] :-) But there is one image that might exactly fit the bill: the i386/amd64/ppc multi-arch netinst CD. Current size (Lenny): 488MB

Re: Which kernels to include on ISOs? (Was: Re: Netboot Xen images for amd64)

2009-06-04 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 04 June 2009, Frans Pop wrote: There are three things you need to accomplish: 1) include the kernel udebs for 686-bigmem on the image 2) include the 686-bigmem kernel-image deb (+ maybe headers packages?) 3) support it in build scripts on farbror (d-cd buildd) and possibly

Re: [RFC] IMPORTANT: Cleaning l10n-sync damage from D-I SVN repository

2009-06-04 Thread Frans Pop
Thanks a lot for the reply, Bastian. On Thursday 04 June 2009, Bastian Blank wrote: On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 10:42:39PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: The way my cleanup works is that I remove all changes to the affected files made between revisions 55934 and 57133 (both inclusive). As a result

Re: [RFC] IMPORTANT: Cleaning l10n-sync damage from D-I SVN repository

2009-06-04 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 04 June 2009, peter green wrote: 3) The relevant versions are now no longer available anywhere [2]: they are no longer in the archive and we don't have a snapshot.d.n for that period. I don't think this statement is correct. snapshot.debian.net seems to have all dates up to

Re: [RFC] IMPORTANT: Cleaning l10n-sync damage from D-I SVN repository

2009-06-04 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 04 June 2009, Frans Pop wrote: On Thursday 04 June 2009, Bastian Blank wrote: Working copies with references to this revisions gets invalidated. OK. I'll test that and if it is a problem we'll have to warn about it. I don't think it's a huge problem if such users would have to do

Re: [D-I] Please test Debian Installer with console-setup

2009-06-03 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 02 June 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: Packages have now reached the state where it is possible to test things out and provide some feedback. For this to happen, I built two netboot i386 ISO images (one[2] is console-based and another one[3] is using the graphical installer), where

[RFC] IMPORTANT: Cleaning l10n-sync damage from D-I SVN repository

2009-06-03 Thread Frans Pop
As you may remember we had a problem before the release of Lenny with the l10n-sync script running wild and creating an insanely large Danish PO file for sublevel 4. This was eventually corrected, but the commits increasing the size of that da.po master file to eventually 250MB (and the same

Re: [D-I] Please test Debian Installer with console-setup

2009-06-03 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 03 June 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote: Frans Pop, le Wed 03 Jun 2009 19:23:01 +0200, a ?crit : So I'd appreciate if the people who've worked on console-setup up till now could list the issues or TODO items they are aware of. The TODO list is on http://wiki.debian.org

Re: Which kernels to include on ISOs? (Was: Re: Netboot Xen images for amd64)

2009-06-03 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 22 May 2009, Ian Campbell wrote: On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 12:49 +0200, Frans Pop wrote: Also note that adding the 686-bigmem kernel to CD images still has a rather high impact (as you'd need to add both the kernel udeb _and_ the regular kernel-image deb), which is rather undesirable

Re: [D-I] Please test Debian Installer with console-setup

2009-06-03 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 04 June 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote: Frans Pop, le Thu 04 Jun 2009 00:36:55 +0200, a ?crit : So I was wondering if there are issues that people who've worked on c-s are aware of but that have not been listed. I don't think there are. You'll be surprised then :-P Expect my

Re: Reverted: activation PDF for Japanese translation of Installation Guide

2009-06-02 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 02 June 2009, nabet...@caldron.jp wrote: On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 07:44:24 +0200 Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl wrote: As you may already have noticed, I reverted [1] the part of your last commit that activated generating a PDF variant for Japanese. I'm sorry. My changes as last

Re: Log from the June 1st 2009 D-I team meeting

2009-06-02 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 02 June 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: http://d-i.debian.org/meetings-logs/20090601/log I realized that meeting-logs was inaccurate as there are many meetings, so I changed the directory name and links on the wiki page but omitted to change the link I posted. No, the original name

Re: Log from the June 1st 2009 D-I team meeting

2009-06-02 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 02 June 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: Not that important, but isn't logs of the meetings, shortened to meetings' logs correct English? It would be correct if you had two directories: ./meetings/logs/ But when combined into a word or phrase (which you effectively do when you

Re: Log from the June 1st 2009 D-I team meeting

2009-06-02 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 02 June 2009, Holger Levsen wrote: On Dienstag, 2. Juni 2009, Otavio Salvador wrote: I disagree with you; while I agree that d-i.alioth.d.o exists for ages I do believe d-i.debian.org is much nicer for documents and easier to remember for users. So I see no big issue to use it.

Re: Change Debian Text Installation Mode

2009-06-02 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 02 June 2009, Joaquin Manuel wrote: Hi, It's possible to change Debian Text Intallation colours? We have extracted initrd but can't find anything related to menu colours. For the newt (textual) frontend they are compiled into the cdebconf program (see

Re: Request for help - cleaning spam from the debian-boot mailing list archive

2009-06-01 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 01 June 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: To be even more efficient, I wonder if there's a possibility to download list archives as a mailbox. That would make spam tagging more efficient than going through the web interface. scp

Re: Log from the June 1st 2009 D-I team meeting

2009-06-01 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 02 June 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: Please note that I copied all old logs and minutes to the brand new d-i.debian.org web tree. They were previously stored in various developers' home directories on people.debian.org with the risk of losing data in the future, if people clean

Re: Log from the June 1st 2009 D-I team meeting

2009-06-01 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 02 June 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: The bi-monthly D-I team meeting happened today at 20:00UTC. As usual, the logs are available from http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Meetings http://d-i.debian.org/meeting-logs/20090601/log: Not Found The requested URL

Re: Log from the June 1st 2009 D-I team meeting

2009-06-01 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 02 June 2009, Frans Pop wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: Please note that I copied all old logs and minutes to the brand new d-i.debian.org web tree. They were previously stored in various developers' home directories on people.debian.org with the risk

Reverted: activation PDF for Japanese translation of Installation Guide

2009-06-01 Thread Frans Pop
Hi, As you may already have noticed, I reverted [1] the part of your last commit that activated generating a PDF variant for Japanese. There were various reasons for this. - It's not really a good idea to hide such a change in a commit with a description Update Japanese translations. - Such a

Re: Illustrated Guide to Installing Debian GNU/Linux

2009-05-31 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 31 May 2009, Holger Levsen wrote: The wiki is used to create and edit the english version. .po files are used for translation. The other tools are used to create HTML and PDF versions from the wikis docbook output and the .po files. They are only used when+by building the package.

Re: Request for help - cleaning spam from the debian-boot mailing list archive

2009-05-31 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 31 May 2009, Stefano Canepa wrote: Il giorno dom, 17/05/2009 alle 06.29 +0200, Frans Pop ha scritto: Current status can be seen on: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SpamClean Additional help to scan the archive and nominate posts is always welcome. I can do some work

Re: Illustrated Guide to Installing Debian GNU/Linux

2009-05-31 Thread Frans Pop
(No need to CC me, I read the list. I CCed you because you were CCed in earlier posts and I'm not sure if you are subscribed.) On Sunday 31 May 2009, Eric Doviak wrote: In summary, the Illustrated Guide serves a different audience than the official manual does. On that basis, I hope you will

Re: Handling spam as it comes in the mailing list (was: ....a spam...)

2009-05-28 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 28 May 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: When I identify a spam while I'm reading a Debian mailing list, I use a mutt macro, that's hooked on a key (ESC-L). At first glance this seems basically what's already documented for mutt at:

Re: Customize Debian Installer GUI and Debian Installer Text mode

2009-05-28 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 28 May 2009, Joaquin Manuel wrote: ¿Can anybody tell me where are the files to change or the way to do that? Your question has already been answered: http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2009/05/msg00566.html You should not expect to be CCed when asking such questions on a Debian

Re: base-installer stops after choosing kernel for no good reason?

2009-05-28 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 28 May 2009, Martin Michlmayr wrote: I tried to use a daily image today to install unstable on a system which needs a kernel that is only in unstable. That should work, but for some reason base-installer simply stopped after choosing the (right) kernel. I don't see what's wrong.

Bug#530784: partman-crypto: preseeding of the dm-crypt passphrase failed

2009-05-28 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 28 May 2009, Gabriel Sailer wrote: If i rebuild the udeb package and i delete the two db_fset ... lines should the preseeding work for the passphrase? If you also remove the lines that unset the seen flag, probably yes. But you'll have to try it to be sure. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Bug#530784: partman-crypto: preseeding of the dm-crypt passphrase failed

2009-05-27 Thread Frans Pop
severity 530784 wishlist retitle 530784 Consider adding support to preseed a dm-crypt passphrase thanks On Wednesday 27 May 2009, Gabriel Sailer wrote: i tried to install about 20 laptops full preseeded with crypted root and swap (and a normal /boot). The installation work but without

Re: preseed the dm-crypt passphrase failed

2009-05-25 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 25 May 2009, Gabriel wrote: I did not find any information about a solution for problem. Please file a bug report against partman-crypto for this issue, so we can better track the discussion. Provide at least the following information: - the exact image you are using (full URL of the

Re: mmc-modules should be loaded by default on ARM Kirkwood

2009-05-25 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 25 May 2009, Martin Michlmayr wrote: The mmc-modules udeb should be downloaded automatically because installations to an SD card will be quite popular on one device. This is not done at the moment because the module is priority extra. I assume the correct way to proceed is to change

Re: mmc-modules should be loaded by default on ARM Kirkwood

2009-05-25 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 25 May 2009, Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl [2009-05-25 22:30]: Do they accept different priority for the same udeb for different arches? The udeb name contains the name of the subarch, so it would be unique. Right. I still don't like it much. IMO

Re: Request for help - cleaning spam from the debian-boot mailing list archive

2009-05-24 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 17 May 2009, Frans Pop wrote: On Sunday 03 May 2009, Frans Pop wrote: I'm looking forward to a cleaner archive! If we share the workload a bit, that should be possible. We now have a solid team working on this and if we keep this up it looks that in 4 or 5 weeks we can have d

Re: Customize Debian Installer GUI and Debian Installer Text mode

2009-05-21 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 21 May 2009, Joaquin Manuel wrote: ¿Can anybody tell me where are the files to change or the way to do that? In the initrd for the graphical installer: - logo and icons: /usr/share/graphics/ - theme definition (colors): /usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc Both are included

Re: Unneeded packages being installed

2009-05-21 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 21 May 2009, Adeodato Simó wrote: + Frans Pop (Wed, 20 May 2009 20:00:39 +0200): On Wednesday 20 May 2009, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: Still using the minimal install example (without selection standard system nor other task), shouldn't them have their priority lowered

Re: Unneeded packages being installed

2009-05-21 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 21 May 2009, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: And just in case, with a daily-built Debian image, the list of libs without any packages depending on them (packages from a minimal Debian install) is: For daily built images at the current stage of the release cycle this really isn't very

Bug#529868: Template d-i/console-setup-udeb/title should not be on installed system

2009-05-21 Thread Frans Pop
Package: console-setup Version: 1.36 Severity: minor In BR #529862 I noticed that the template debian-installer/console-setup-udeb/title for some reason gets included in the debconf database for installed systems. This is a bug as that template is udeb-specific. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Bug#527641: Package installation overwrites /etc/default/console-setup without warning

2009-05-20 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 20 May 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: To fix it, you have to: 1/ document in the file that it's auto-updated based on the debconf infos and that dpkg-reconfigure console-setup is recommended to update it 2/ use ucf or something similar to detect if the file has been edited by the

user-setup (1.24)

2009-05-20 Thread Frans Pop
+user-setup (1.24) unstable; urgency=low + [ Christian Perrier ] + * No longer use the -m switch of chpasswd. It uses PAM now and no +longer has this switch. The password will use settings from +libpam-runtime, so MD5 by default. Does this mean it is no longer possible to preseed using

Re: user-setup (1.24)

2009-05-20 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 20 May 2009, Frans Pop wrote: +user-setup (1.24) unstable; urgency=low + [ Christian Perrier ] + * No longer use the -m switch of chpasswd. It uses PAM now and no +longer has this switch. The password will use settings from +libpam-runtime, so MD5 by default. Does

Re: Unneeded packages being installed

2009-05-20 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 20 May 2009, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: Sorry if this issue was already discussed and if this is not a problem, but when installing a basic Debian system (only the minimal system, without selecting anything when tasksel appears), I see that some packages are installed but don't

Re: Unneeded packages being installed

2009-05-20 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 20 May 2009, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: Frans Pop schrieb: Sorry if this issue was already discussed and if this is not a problem, but when installing a basic Debian system (only the minimal system, without selecting anything when tasksel appears), I see that some

Bug#529640: console-setup-udeb: Should allow reconfiguring the keyboard

2009-05-20 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 20 May 2009, Anton Zinoviev wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 07:12:57PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: Once one has gone through the Configure the keyboard step in D-I (indeed a modified D-I where console-setup-udeb is used in place of kbd-config), it is not possible to come

Re: user-setup (1.24)

2009-05-20 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 20 May 2009, Otavio Salvador wrote: Hello Christian, On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Christian Perrier bubu...@debian.org wrote: - another solution proposed by otavio that I haven't been able to understand: he'll propose a patch soon I'm sending the attached patch for

Re: Unneeded packages being installed

2009-05-20 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 20 May 2009, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: Still using the minimal install example (without selection standard system nor other task), shouldn't them have their priority lowered then? Possibly. But that is something that probably should have been done *before* lenny was released.

Re: user-setup (1.24)

2009-05-20 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 20 May 2009, Otavio Salvador wrote: I belive this does all right now. Patch attached. No, it's still broken. You're seriously underestimating the complexity here. KISS! Especially because the risk is huge that you will only find bugs in such code _after_ you've already released.

Re: user-setup (1.24)

2009-05-20 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 20 May 2009, Otavio Salvador wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl wrote: No, it's still broken. You're seriously underestimating the complexity here. I'd love to know what I missed, if you don't mind to explain. Try a grep for codename. It's

Re: user-setup (1.24)

2009-05-20 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 20 May 2009, Otavio Salvador wrote: I've already added the missing $ROOT in dpkg --compare-versions call, locally. Which means you're still missing it in the dpkg -s call? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Bug#517231: Processed: forcibly merging 517231 528929

2009-05-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 17 May 2009, Frans Pop wrote: There may be a problem with weekly built CD images too. In this period (after a Debian release and before the first Beta, when udeb migrations are allowed without worrying about breaking D-I images in testing) they really should be built using D-I images

Bug#517231: Processed: forcibly merging 517231 528929

2009-05-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 17 May 2009, Aurelien Jarno wrote: This is why it only appears with images generated with glibc 2.7 (ie lenny images), and not with the daily ones which use glibc 2.9. This type pf problem is well known and will not get fixed until the first Beta release of D-I. It is also virtually

Bug#517231: Processed: forcibly merging 517231 528929

2009-05-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 17 May 2009, Frans Pop wrote: On Sunday 17 May 2009, Aurelien Jarno wrote: This is why it only appears with images generated with glibc 2.7 (ie lenny images), and not with the daily ones which use glibc 2.9. This type pf problem is well known and will not get fixed until

Bug#517231: Processed: forcibly merging 517231 528929

2009-05-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 17 May 2009, Frans Pop wrote: Basically: you very simply cannot use images built for Lenny to install Squeeze. At least not netboot images. I guess that if you took a Lenny businesscard CD and selected expert mode, it would happily install Squeeze if you asked it to. Reason

Re: code swarm video

2009-05-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 15 May 2009, Frans Pop wrote: I'd provide a video myself, but have problems generating one with sufficient quality (mencode output sucks and ffmpeg segfaults on me). Managed it after all with ffmpeg after creating a chroot with d-multimedia packages (installing them on my stable

Re: Request for help - cleaning spam from the debian-boot mailing list archive

2009-05-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 03 May 2009, Frans Pop wrote: I'm looking forward to a cleaner archive! If we share the workload a bit, that should be possible. First of all: many thanks for the great response to this RFH! Progress on the review of the archive has been huge. Since the start over 11,000 nominations

Bug#524235: Default alt-gr key replacement should be right alt for usa keyboard.

2009-05-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 15 May 2009, Anton Zinoviev wrote: On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 01:23:47AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: Note that the US keyboard layout is fairly common in a lot of other countries than the US itself. It is for example THE most common keyboard layout in the Netherlands and Dutch users very

Bug#524235: Default alt-gr key replacement should be right alt for usa keyboard.

2009-05-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 15 May 2009, Anton Zinoviev wrote: On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:34:36PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: But AFAIK it can still be used for combining characters! Example: Alt-gr+' e - ? Maybe your right Alt works as Compose, not as AltGr? Yes, correct. Sorry if I'm confusing terminology

Bug#524235: Default alt-gr key replacement should be right alt for usa keyboard.

2009-05-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 15 May 2009, Anton Zinoviev wrote: My personal opinion is the same as yours and not only for us but for all layouts. However it seems one of the goal of d-i is to make the questions as few as possible. I will implement in console-setup whatever is decided here. That is correct,

Re: state of the DSA nation

2009-05-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 15 May 2009, Peter Palfrader wrote: == s390 == we have two porterboxes here. zelenka is new and fast and has nice network but is a little short on disk space. raptor has more diskspace but the network is too restricted - we can't even get to our puppet master from it and

Re: state of the DSA nation

2009-05-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 15 May 2009, Peter Palfrader wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2009, Frans Pop wrote: On Friday 15 May 2009, Peter Palfrader wrote: == s390 == we have two porterboxes here. zelenka is new and fast and has nice network but is a little short on disk space. raptor has more

Re: D-I: please test daily builds for detection of devices on HPPA bus

2009-05-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 14 May 2009, Frans Pop wrote: It would be great to get confirmation that automatic device detection works. If you have relevant hardware, please give one of the daily built images of the installer a try: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ I've been seeing seemingly

Bug#524235: Default alt-gr key replacement should be right alt for usa keyboard.

2009-05-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 15 May 2009, Kurt Roeckx wrote: When I tested it, selecting No AltGr key, my right alt key reacts the same as the left alt key. That sounds correct. So what do you think the No AltGr key should do?  The right alt key shouldn't do anything? That seems obvious to me: no alt-gr key

Re: busybox features required for Kickstart support

2009-05-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 15 May 2009, Colin Watson wrote: This information was in the citations I provided in my original e-mail. At the time I made the original requests, getopt was 1KB and NFS mounting was 3KB; Bastian's most recent mail suggests that the latter is more than that nowadays. I didn't check

Re: code swarm video

2009-05-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 15 May 2009, Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 03:36:36AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: Very nice Joey. Can we include that on CD1 and play it as background during installs? Nearly a third of CD1 ;-) Yeah, I did not think I needed to add a smiley for that :-) Pity about

Re: code swarm video

2009-05-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 13 May 2009, Frans Pop wrote: On Wednesday 13 May 2009, Frans Pop wrote: Request: think you could do the same for d-cd sometime? Or maybe better: share the HOWTO of installing the software and making the video + any config/scripts you used? Turns out that it's fairly simple

Re: busybox features required for Kickstart support

2009-05-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 15 May 2009, Bastian Blank wrote: In the past we have a few times held back adding new things until we'd found a way to first gain space somewhere else. And on the other side you refused anything which would make it possible to reduce the size of the kernel drastically. You'll

Re: busybox features required for Kickstart support

2009-05-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 15 May 2009, Bastian Blank wrote: On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:27:55PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Friday 15 May 2009, Bastian Blank wrote: And on the other side you refused anything which would make it possible to reduce the size of the kernel drastically. You'll have

D-I: please test daily builds for detection of devices on HPPA bus

2009-05-14 Thread Frans Pop
Thanks to the upstream kernel work by Helge Deller, the kernel/udev should now be able to automatically detect devices on the HPPA bus. In the Lenny and earlier versions of the installer, driver modules for such devices [1] would always be loaded by the installer and added to

Re: code swarm video

2009-05-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 12 May 2009, Joey Hess wrote: Here's my list of possible captions, do let me know if I missed anything: Maybe: 25 Aug 2004: Switch to centralized l10n infrastructure Especially as that will show up as a change in the swarm. The start of the conversion was ~10 days earlier, but

Bug#524235: Default alt-gr key replacement should be right alt for usa keyboard.

2009-05-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 15 May 2009, Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 10:26:14PM +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote: On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 08:12:08PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: And it shouldn't make both keys work the same. They never have worked the same for me. One is a Left Alt, the other a

Re: code swarm video

2009-05-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 14 May 2009, Frans Pop wrote: On Tuesday 12 May 2009, Joey Hess wrote: Here's my list of possible captions, do let me know if I missed anything: Maybe: 25 Aug 2004: Switch to centralized l10n infrastructure Also maybe: 7 Jan 2004: Start of partman development Tomorrow I plan

Bug#528489: tasksel: kde-desktop neeeds adjusting for KDE4

2009-05-13 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 13 May 2009, Ana Guerrero wrote: The attached patch updates the task to KDE 4. It relies in the new metapackage kde-standard that still needs to be updated [0]. The metapackage will need an update in a couple of months or so when KDE 4 is more settled in Debian and to review what

Bug#528560: debian (lenny) installer via serial console does not support hardware flow control (for serial over lan)

2009-05-13 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 13 May 2009, Isabelle, Francois wrote: As with many SOL implementations, the service processor needs to use H/W flow control to avoid the display of scrambled character on the console. Especially on dialog/ncurses applications that use a lot of escape characters to display the

Bug#528560: debian (lenny) installer via serial console does not support hardware flow control (for serial over lan)

2009-05-13 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 13 May 2009, Isabelle, Francois wrote: Have you tried booting with DEBIAN_FRONTEND=text? No, I was not aware of the availability of this mode. On Centos, you use linux text to boot a text mode installer that works well on vt100 consoles. Maybe the F1 menu should hint the user

Re: busybox features required for Kickstart support

2009-05-12 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 12 May 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: On the other hand, maybe internal tar support is something interesting for other purposes. After all, D-I is not alone to use busybox, aren't we? Effectively we are because the udeb has a separate config. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Debian-Installer (Etch) parses strings incorrectly.

2009-05-12 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 12 May 2009, Drew Weaver wrote: url=10.1.0.20/install.php?type=deb4 in the initrd line when doing a network install it appears that the = is parsed incorrectly. Possibly a problem in the env2debconf script from the preseed udeb. Suggest you compare the two versions. -- To

Bug#528443: debian-installer: error setting up powerpc-utils cannot stat `/etc/adjtime'

2009-05-12 Thread Frans Pop
reassign 528443 powerpc-utils 1.1.3-22 severity 528443 important thanks On Wednesday 13 May 2009, Rick Thomas wrote: Everything progressed normally until during the installation of the base packages, it failed. According to the syslog file there was a problem setting up the powerpc-utils

Re: code swarm video

2009-05-12 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 12 May 2009, Joey Hess wrote: In any case, we have nearly a decade of commit logs, and I am using the code_swarm tool to produce a fancy visualization of them. A rough draft of the video is here: http://kitenet.net/~joey/tmp/d-i_code_swarm_raw.avi Very nice Joey. Can we include

Re: code swarm video

2009-05-12 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 13 May 2009, Frans Pop wrote: Request: think you could do the same for d-cd sometime? Or maybe better: share the HOWTO of installing the software and making the video + any config/scripts you used? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: busybox features required for Kickstart support

2009-05-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 11 May 2009, Otavio Salvador wrote: As we have talked at IRC, I'm all for that. I believe we ought to avoid bloading installer when possible but we can't hold improvements forever. The default machine specs has changed a bit since 2006 and then I do believe that this is much less

Bug#528224: RM: etch-support -- RoM

2009-05-11 Thread Frans Pop
Package: ftp.debian.org X-Debbugs-CC: debian-boot@lists.debian.org Please remove the package etch-support. The installer only supports installing the previous Debian release from the current version, so this udeb that provided support for Etch is no longer needed for Squeeze. signature.asc

Bug#528234: busybox: CONFIG_CTTYHACK can be disabled for the udeb

2009-05-11 Thread Frans Pop
Package: busybox-udeb Version: 1:1.13.3-1 Severity: wishlist As cttyhack is no longer used in D-I, the corresponding config option can be disabled again. TIA, FJP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Request for help - cleaning spam from the debian-boot mailing list archive

2009-05-10 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 10 May 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl): Note that the review batch job (including actual removals, updating messages to be reviewed and review statistics) is only run once a week. Any idea when this is run? Well, they are updated now while

Re: Request for help - cleaning spam from the debian-boot mailing list archive

2009-05-10 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 10 May 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl): Well, they are updated now while they were not yet updated yesterday. I'll let you draw your own conclusions from that ;-) 233 messages removed so far and 700 new messages available for review

Bug#528033: console-setup: config file does not contain bepo variant selected in debconf

2009-05-10 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 10 May 2009, Anton Zinoviev wrote: From the short test I made it seems keyboards whose long description contains commas are rejected because Deconf protocol uses commas as separators. I can fix this by replacing commas by semicolons, but I'd like to ask first people on

Re: Request for help - cleaning spam from the debian-boot mailing list archive

2009-05-09 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 09 May 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: Quoting Holger Wansing (li...@wansing-online.de): Hi, Christian Perrier bubu...@debian.org wrote: From my own experience, it's fairly easy to miss spams in the lists of messages, so we really needs a few more people (about 1 or 2, I

Re: Make d-i capable to cross compile armel|* firmware images

2009-05-09 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 09 May 2009, Hector Oron wrote: QUESTIONS Do you think this is a useful feature or a waist of time? Do you see any blocker to be able to do so? The D-I build process copies/uses quite a few files from the host system into images while building an image. For example it uses library

Re: Netboot Xen images for amd64

2009-05-09 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 06 May 2009, Ian Campbell wrote: On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 09:45 +, Ian Campbell wrote: Since the Xen modules will be included in the next linux-kernel-di-amd64-2.6 upload I'd like to also add a netboot-xen target to the build. What are peoples feelings on this patch? I

Re: pkgsel/install-recommends confusing

2009-05-08 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 08 May 2009, Colin Watson wrote: On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 07:42:32AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: I just noticed the following change: +pkgsel (0.25) UNRELEASED; urgency=low + + * Merge from Ubuntu: +- Allow preseeding pkgsel/install-recommends to install what

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