Bug#411552: please set a timeout in syslinux screen

2007-02-28 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 10:25:28PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: Index: installer/build/boot/x86/syslinux.cfg === --- installer/build/boot/x86/syslinux.cfg (revision 45270) +++ installer/build/boot/x86/syslinux.cfg (working

Bug#411552: please set a timeout in syslinux screen

2007-02-28 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 10:41:59PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: tags 411552 wontfix thanks This certainly won't be changed for Etch and Joey Hess has provided various reasons why it should not be changed at all. From his last words on this (Beeping could work..) I seemed to understand that

Bug#411552: please set a timeout in syslinux screen

2007-02-27 Thread Robert Millan
tags 411552 patch thanks Here's a patch that: - adds two beeps when prompt is displayed - sets timeout to 5 minutes Unfortunately I can't test it right now, since it needs real hardware and I run out of blank CDs. I'll try this sunday if nobody beats me to it. Btw, if someone wants to

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Bug#411552: please set a timeout in syslinux screen

2007-02-27 Thread Frans Pop
tags 411552 wontfix thanks This certainly won't be changed for Etch and Joey Hess has provided various reasons why it should not be changed at all. Tagging wontfix instead of closing as we may want to reconsider this sometime in the future. pgplJ1jdugqkN.pgp Description: PGP signature

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Bug#411552: please set a timeout in syslinux screen

2007-02-21 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 06:07:59PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: How big is that datacenter anyway? I can't imagine your monkey being so slow not to be back there in 5 minutes. It's a realistic scenario for the he.net datacenter. They couldn't hear beeps either, FWIW, it's like a jet engine in

Bug#411552: please set a timeout in syslinux screen

2007-02-20 Thread Joey Hess
Here are some scenarios to consider: * Suppose that I'm blind. I put in the CD, reboot, and wait the 5 minutes I generally wait to get it past post[1]. Then I carefully start typing the necessary kernel options for my braille reader into the syslinux prompt I expect to be there... Even

Bug#411552: please set a timeout in syslinux screen

2007-02-20 Thread Joey Hess
Joey Hess wrote: Can you figure out what happened based on the above description? :-) For values of you that do not include vorlon, obviously. ;-) -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Bug#411552: please set a timeout in syslinux screen

2007-02-20 Thread Eddy Petrișor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Millan wrote: On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 06:03:21PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Rationale: Some computers have BIOSes that don't support USB keyboards. These are not necessarily old computers; I've found relatively new ones (with amd64 cpu, etc)

Bug#411552: please set a timeout in syslinux screen

2007-02-20 Thread David Härdeman
On Tue, February 20, 2007 9:35, Joey Hess said: Here are some scenarios to consider: Doesn't rootskel already contain code to timeout at the Please remove boot floppy and insert root floppy prompt for much the same reasons as this bug requests a timeout for syslinux? If so, either syslinux or

Bug#411552: please set a timeout in syslinux screen

2007-02-20 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 20 February 2007 10:42, David Härdeman wrote: On Tue, February 20, 2007 9:35, Joey Hess said: Doesn't rootskel already contain code to timeout at the Please remove boot floppy and insert root floppy prompt for much the same reasons as this bug requests a timeout for syslinux? No.

Bug#411552: please set a timeout in syslinux screen

2007-02-20 Thread peter green
-Original Message- From: Joey Hess [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 February 2007 08:36 To: Robert Millan; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Bug#411552: please set a timeout in syslinux screen Here are some scenarios to consider: * Suppose that I'm blind. I put in the CD, reboot

Bug#411552: please set a timeout in syslinux screen

2007-02-20 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 03:35:30AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Here are some scenarios to consider: * Suppose that I'm blind. I put in the CD, reboot, and wait the 5 minutes I generally wait to get it past post[1]. Then I carefully start typing the necessary kernel options for my braille

Bug#411552: please set a timeout in syslinux screen

2007-02-20 Thread Joey Hess
Robert Millan wrote: syslinux supports beeping (by printing ^G or with the .beep command specified in menu/MENU_FORMAT). If d-i beeps (once or even a few times) when the boot prompt is presented, that helps a lot. If it beeps a few seconds before the time runs out, that also helps. I

Bug#411552: please set a timeout in syslinux screen

2007-02-19 Thread Robert Millan
Package: debian-installer Severity: normal Tags: patch Please do set a timeout in syslinux screen. Even if it's a very high one. Since sparc already has 600/10 s as timeout, I propose the same for x86. Rationale: Some computers have BIOSes that don't support USB keyboards. These are not

Bug#411552: please set a timeout in syslinux screen

2007-02-19 Thread Joey Hess
Robert Millan wrote: Please do set a timeout in syslinux screen. Even if it's a very high one. Since sparc already has 600/10 s as timeout, I propose the same for x86. IIRC you have to enter something at boot to make a sparc boot from CD. CD booting is not the default, like it is on many x86

Bug#411552: please set a timeout in syslinux screen

2007-02-19 Thread peter green
That is obviously a problem, but so is d-i booting unexpectedly. D-I doesn't touch anything until told to does it? i don't really see how unexpectedly ending up at the first screen of the installer is any worse than unexpectedly ending up at the syslinux boot prompt, either way you just

Bug#411552: please set a timeout in syslinux screen

2007-02-19 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 20 February 2007 00:03, Joey Hess wrote: A friend of mine stopped using Windows because he was unable to install it :-). Then again, we had an Ubuntu CD and we were unable to type anything in the boot screen (which AFAIK is syslinux-based and relies on BIOS). Fortunately

Bug#411552: please set a timeout in syslinux screen

2007-02-19 Thread Christian Perrier
My gut feeling says not to change this. If your keyboard does not work during initial boot stages, there is obviously something structurally broken anyway as it means you can also not do any BIOS setup. I'd suggest such a user should get an AT keyboard somewhere and fix his BIOS setup to

Bug#411552: please set a timeout in syslinux screen

2007-02-19 Thread Robert Millan
On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 06:03:21PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Rationale: Some computers have BIOSes that don't support USB keyboards. These are not necessarily old computers; I've found relatively new ones (with amd64 cpu, etc) that also exhibit this fuckage. The problem is terrible for