Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Uwe Bugla, le Mon 24 Aug 2009 16:52:48 +0200, a écrit : The solution of the problem would have been to immediately have a look whether one of the following packages is part of the netinst image: Either: a. console-data plus console-common or even b. console-setup Possibly, yes,

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-24 Thread Uwe Bugla
Am Montag 24 August 2009 02:02:36 schrieb Steve McIntyre: Uwe Bugla wrote: A totally unnecessary personally abusive email targeted at a valued Debian developer. I refuse to dignify the message by quoting any of it. This kind of abusive message has no place within the Debian community, and

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Uwe Bugla, le Mon 24 Aug 2009 14:33:31 +0200, a écrit : If I do describe accurately a problem dealing with netinst image, and, as a consequence, I am asked to perform a test with a netboot image (which has technologically nothing to do with the netinst one - I do not have discless

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-24 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 02:33:31PM +0200, Uwe Bugla wrote: If I do describe accurately a problem dealing with netinst image, and, as a consequence, I am asked to perform a test with a netboot image (which has technologically nothing to do with the netinst one This is so utterly and completely

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-24 Thread Uwe Bugla
Am Montag 24 August 2009 14:46:18 schrieb Samuel Thibault: Uwe Bugla, le Mon 24 Aug 2009 14:33:31 +0200, a écrit : If I do describe accurately a problem dealing with netinst image, and, as a consequence, I am asked to perform a test with a netboot image (which has technologically nothing to

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-24 Thread Uwe Bugla
Am Montag 24 August 2009 16:11:10 schrieb Wouter Verhelst: On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 02:33:31PM +0200, Uwe Bugla wrote: If I do describe accurately a problem dealing with netinst image, and, as a consequence, I am asked to perform a test with a netboot image (which has technologically nothing

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-24 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 05:09:37PM +0200, Uwe Bugla wrote: Am Montag 24 August 2009 16:11:10 schrieb Wouter Verhelst: On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 02:33:31PM +0200, Uwe Bugla wrote: If I do describe accurately a problem dealing with netinst image, and, as a consequence, I am asked to perform a

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-24 Thread Uwe Bugla
Am Montag 24 August 2009 18:11:55 schrieb Wouter Verhelst: On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 05:09:37PM +0200, Uwe Bugla wrote: Am Montag 24 August 2009 16:11:10 schrieb Wouter Verhelst: On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 02:33:31PM +0200, Uwe Bugla wrote: If I do describe accurately a problem dealing with

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 06:41:24PM +0200, Uwe Bugla wrote: Although some people do not like me I do prefer real democratic communities which are free from such authoritarian fascist no-brains. Thank God we're not a democracy. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: Actually, when using a netinst image, console-setup is *not* installed on the target system, which explains why the keymap is not configured. I think that Frans will verey quickly suggest the right explanation Isn't that obvious? Fixed in

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Miguel Figueiredo
netinst -- Melhores Cumprimentos/Best Regards, Miguel Figueiredo A Domingo 23 Agosto 2009 06:57:16 Christian Perrier você escreveu: Quoting Miguel Figueiredo (el...@debianpt.org): Hi all, the same happened to me, i selected Portuguese keyboard layout and after installation i don't

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl): On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: Actually, when using a netinst image, console-setup is *not* installed on the target system, which explains why the keymap is not configured. I think that Frans will verey quickly suggest the right

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl): On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: Actually, when using a netinst image, console-setup is *not* installed on the target system, which explains why the keymap is not configured. I

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Uwe Bugla
Am Sonntag 23 August 2009 17:12:34 schrieb Christian Perrier: Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl): On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: Actually, when using a netinst image, console-setup is *not* installed on the target system, which explains why the keymap is not

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl): I guess this is because the apt-install console-setup is in kbd-chooser's post-base-installer, at a moment where APT sources are not available (or configured). No, it was simply because the package was not on the CD at all! And that would have

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Uwe Bugla
Am Sonntag 23 August 2009 18:59:26 schrieb Christian Perrier: Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl): I guess this is because the apt-install console-setup is in kbd-chooser's post-base-installer, at a moment where APT sources are not available (or configured). No, it was simply

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl): I guess this is because the apt-install console-setup is in kbd-chooser's post-base-installer, at a moment where APT sources are not available (or configured). No, it was simply because the

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Uwe Bugla (uwe.bu...@gmx.de): Hey you two guys (Frans and Christian - who else?) Will you please cooperate better - otherwise no problems will be solved here at all. That means: The more experienced (Frans) should not leave the less experienced (Christian) alone. This leads to

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: In this very specific example, I don't really see the value added by the somewhat sarcastic remark *even* if I could have deserved it. Basically, if you don't want such remarks from me, then don't presume I will solve your problems for you

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Uwe Bugla
Am Sonntag 23 August 2009 20:29:44 schrieb Christian Perrier: Quoting Uwe Bugla (uwe.bu...@gmx.de): Hey you two guys (Frans and Christian - who else?) Will you please cooperate better - otherwise no problems will be solved here at all. That means: The more experienced (Frans) should not

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl): You did presume I'd do that with this: On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: I think that Frans will verey quickly suggest the right explanation Instead, trace them to the end yourself. So, I think you did deserve the remark

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: - at the time I wrote this, I knew I couldn't investigate things further, even obvious ones How much work is: boot installer from netinst; proceed until CD has been scanned alt+F2 + enter find /cdrom -name console-setup* ? 5 minutes, top.

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 23 August 2009, I wrote: No. I do. I just don't - at least in my free time; on a paid job I'm slightly more - care to allow too much for people with paper-thin skins. s/more/more restrained/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: We really need to find a better way to interact BTW, what happened to be liberal in what you accept? Do you know what I do when somebody hints that my work may not have been 100% perfect? I first consider whether they have a point or not.

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Max Vozeler
Christian, On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 08:29:44PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: ... Thanks and repect for reacting in such a calm way. Max -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Steve McIntyre
Uwe Bugla wrote: A totally unnecessary personally abusive email targeted at a valued Debian developer. I refuse to dignify the message by quoting any of it. This kind of abusive message has no place within the Debian community, and especially not targeted publically at a well-respected Debian

Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-22 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Uwe Bugla (uwe.bu...@gmx.de): Hi everybody, using the Debian testing installer from 4th August I stumbled over the follwing bugs: 1. console-data is missing in the list of necessary dependencies when you install the basic system: The consequence is: You are trapped if you owe

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-22 Thread Uwe Bugla
Am Samstag 22 August 2009 09:04:36 schrieb Christian Perrier: Quoting Uwe Bugla (uwe.bu...@gmx.de): Hi everybody, using the Debian testing installer from 4th August I stumbled over the follwing bugs: 1. console-data is missing in the list of necessary dependencies when you install

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-22 Thread Miguel Figueiredo
Hi all, the same happened to me, i selected Portuguese keyboard layout and after installation i don't have a working Portuguese keyboard layout. I used the netboot-i386 image, built 20090821-10:22; d-i 20090821-09:04. Btw, console data is missing on my installation (tasks: standard

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-22 Thread Christian Perrier
(ignoring your rant which there is no point to answer to. Thanks for the confirmation to my questions) Quoting myself: Today, I finally couldbut couldn't reproduce it. I booted the daily built *netboot* image, then did choose French as install language and French keymap. Apart from a

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-22 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Christian Perrier (bubu...@debian.org): Same successful install with working keymap with a daily built netboot and German keymap, using German as install language. Next step: trying with a netinst image (some differences might explain different behaviours). And *here*, I reproduce

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-22 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Miguel Figueiredo (el...@debianpt.org): Hi all, the same happened to me, i selected Portuguese keyboard layout and after installation i don't have a working Portuguese keyboard layout. I used the netboot-i386 image, built 20090821-10:22; d-i 20090821-09:04. Btw, console data

Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer

2009-08-10 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Uwe Bugla (uwe.bu...@gmx.de): This installer does not seem to recognize serial mice. Are you talking about the graphical installer (in such case, the problem is in the installer...though we probably had very few users with serial mice that tested D-I)? Or are you talking about X on the

Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer

2009-08-10 Thread Christian Perrier
(please avoid quoting the entire discussion) Quoting Uwe Bugla (uwe.bu...@gmx.de): I have an unusable keyboard layout on the installed system, unfortunately. After performing apt-get install console-data the keyboard layout is usable, but without performing that step the usage is a big

Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer

2009-08-10 Thread Uwe Bugla
Am Montag 10 August 2009 09:14:43 schrieb Christian Perrier: Quoting Uwe Bugla (uwe.bu...@gmx.de): This installer does not seem to recognize serial mice. Are you talking about the graphical installer (in such case, the problem is in the installer...though we probably had very few users with

Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer

2009-08-09 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Uwe Bugla (uwe.bu...@gmx.de): Hi everybody, using the Debian testing installer from 4th August I stumbled over the follwing bugs: 1. console-data is missing in the list of necessary dependencies when you install the basic system: The consequence is: You are trapped if you owe

Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer

2009-08-09 Thread Uwe Bugla
Am Sonntag 09 August 2009 08:22:54 schrieb Christian Perrier: Quoting Uwe Bugla (uwe.bu...@gmx.de): Hi everybody, Hello Christian, using the Debian testing installer from 4th August I stumbled over the follwing bugs: 1. console-data is missing in the list of necessary dependencies

Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer

2009-08-09 Thread Uwe Bugla
Am Sonntag 09 August 2009 13:42:37 schrieb Uwe Bugla: Am Sonntag 09 August 2009 08:22:54 schrieb Christian Perrier: Quoting Uwe Bugla (uwe.bu...@gmx.de): Hi everybody, Hello Christian, using the Debian testing installer from 4th August I stumbled over the follwing bugs: 1.

Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer

2009-08-09 Thread Uwe Bugla
Am Sonntag 09 August 2009 15:05:53 schrieb Uwe Bugla: Am Sonntag 09 August 2009 13:42:37 schrieb Uwe Bugla: Am Sonntag 09 August 2009 08:22:54 schrieb Christian Perrier: Quoting Uwe Bugla (uwe.bu...@gmx.de): Hi everybody, Hello Christian, using the Debian testing installer from

Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer

2009-08-08 Thread Uwe Bugla
Hi everybody, using the Debian testing installer from 4th August I stumbled over the follwing bugs: 1. console-data is missing in the list of necessary dependencies when you install the basic system: The consequence is: You are trapped if you owe a non-American keyboard with a qwertz layout.