Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 03:38:56PM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote: > On Thu, 2004-04-15 at 06:59, Sven Luther wrote: > > > You can grab miboot (version 1.0d4-2) at: > > > deb http://sprite.fr.eu.org/dist/debian/ ./ > > > > Ok, installed in the chroot. They will be in tomorrows daily builds. > > Sven

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-15 Thread Rick_Thomas
On Thu, 2004-04-15 at 06:59, Sven Luther wrote: > > You can grab miboot (version 1.0d4-2) at: > > deb http://sprite.fr.eu.org/dist/debian/ ./ > > Ok, installed in the chroot. They will be in tomorrows daily builds. Sven, When it's available, please post an announcement to the "debian-boot"

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 11:41:20AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 11:02:19PM +0200, Jeremie Koenig wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 01:36:24PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > Mmm, maybe i have a wrong miboot version, can you send it to me again > > >

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-15 Thread Joey Hess
Sven Luther wrote: > On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 11:02:19PM +0200, Jeremie Koenig wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 01:36:24PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > Mmm, maybe i have a wrong miboot version, can you send it to me again > > > please ? > > > > You can grab miboot (version 1.0d4-2) at: > >

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 11:02:19PM +0200, Jeremie Koenig wrote: > On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 01:36:24PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > Mmm, maybe i have a wrong miboot version, can you send it to me again > > please ? > > You can grab miboot (version 1.0d4-2) at: > deb http://sprite.fr.eu.org/d

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-14 Thread Jeremie Koenig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 01:36:24PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > Mmm, maybe i have a wrong miboot version, can you send it to me again > please ? You can grab miboot (version 1.0d4-2) at: deb http://sprite.fr.eu.org/dist/debian/ ./ It works here with this version and rsrce in the archive.

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-14 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 01:16:29PM +0200, Jeremie Koenig wrote: > Hello, > > First of all, please excuse the long silence, I've been a bit short of > d-i time lately... > > After a quick look, the boot floppies built by Sven don't get their > kernel arguments substituted correctly in the System f

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-14 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 01:16:29PM +0200, Jeremie Koenig wrote: > Hello, > > First of all, please excuse the long silence, I've been a bit short of > d-i time lately... No problem. > After a quick look, the boot floppies built by Sven don't get their > kernel arguments substituted correctly in t

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-14 Thread Jeremie Koenig
Hello, First of all, please excuse the long silence, I've been a bit short of d-i time lately... After a quick look, the boot floppies built by Sven don't get their kernel arguments substituted correctly in the System file, leaving the old stuff in place. The consequence is that devfs will probab

Re: Old world status & todo (was Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-12 Thread Malte Cornils
Hi, Am Montag, 12. April 2004 08:31 schrieb Sven Luther: > On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 07:13:28PM -0400, glenn wrote: > BTW, it would be nice if someone with mac os still installed could take > the 2.4.25-7 -powerpc-small kernel and try to boot it with bootx. If > this works, then the kernel is ok, bu

Re: Old world status & todo (was Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-12 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, > I just tried the 11-April-2004 ppc boot.img and it seems that it does not > work. I get Tux sitting by a Mac, the floppy gets ejected but there are no > on screen prompts as with the old installer. I can insert the root disc > and it seems to read it but finishes a short while later with n

Re: Old world status & todo (was Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-11 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 07:13:28PM -0400, glenn wrote: > On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 10:58:14 +0200 > Holger Levsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > > I apologize to Malte. You were right. I was wrong. The kernel on the > > > > > floppies seems to be broken. > > > Ok. > > > > > > Now w

Re: Old world status & todo (was Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-11 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 07:13:28PM -0400, glenn wrote: > On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 10:58:14 +0200 > Holger Levsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > > I apologize to Malte. You were right. I was wrong. The kernel on the > > > > > floppies seems to be broken. > > > Ok. > > > > > > Now w

Re: Old world status & todo (was Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-11 Thread glenn
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 10:58:14 +0200 Holger Levsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > > > I apologize to Malte. You were right. I was wrong. The kernel on the > > > > floppies seems to be broken. > > Ok. > > > > Now wee need to see why this happens. It seems that nobody was able to > > make

Re: Old world status & todo (was Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-11 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 12:48:18PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > [why Sven's boot-floppies don't boot while Jeremie's do] > > Ok, we need to find out what is happeining here. Will we have a (or > > more) oldworld machines at the Munich BSP ? > > On saturday (the whole day) and sunday mor

Re: Old world status & todo (was Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-11 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, [why Sven's boot-floppies don't boot while Jeremie's do] > Ok, we need to find out what is happeining here. Will we have a (or > more) oldworld machines at the Munich BSP ? On saturday (the whole day) and sunday morning I can participate via IRC. > BTW, Jeremie, maybe you would be intereste

Re: Old world status & todo (was Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-11 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 10:58:14AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > > > > I apologize to Malte. You were right. I was wrong. The kernel on the > > > > floppies seems to be broken. > > Ok. > > > > Now wee need to see why this happens. It seems that nobody was able to > > make it work with t

Old world status & todo (was Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-11 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, > > > I apologize to Malte. You were right. I was wrong. The kernel on the > > > floppies seems to be broken. > Ok. > > Now wee need to see why this happens. It seems that nobody was able to > make it work with the boot floppies built by me, is that exact ? Only by > those built by Jeremie.

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-11 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Apr 10, 2004 at 02:13:50AM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote: > On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 16:02, Frans Pop wrote: > > > > On Friday 09 April 2004 21:49, Rick Thomas wrote: > > > This is OldWorld PowerMac. > > > > > > Booting off of floppy uses the miboot bootloader. It's not like lilo or > > > grub on

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-11 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 02:35:28AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: > > On Sunday, April 11, 2004, at 01:56 AM, Sven Luther wrote: > > >Ok. > > > >Now wee need to see why this happens. It seems that nobody was able to > >make it work with the boot floppies built by me, is that exact ? > >Only by > >tho

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-10 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sunday, April 11, 2004, at 01:56 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Ok. Now wee need to see why this happens. It seems that nobody was able to make it work with the boot floppies built by me, is that exact ? Only by those built by Jeremie. We need to find out why. Jeremie, did you modify the kernel conf

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-10 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 01:10:23AM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote: > On Sat, 2004-04-10 at 19:06, Rick_Thomas wrote: > > Sadly, My PowerMac 6500/225 also shows the same symptoms. The boot > > floppy (and the ofonlyboot floppy, as well) are read -- seemingly > > successfully -- but the Tux/Mac icon never

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-10 Thread Rick_Thomas
On Sat, 2004-04-10 at 19:06, Rick_Thomas wrote: > Sadly, My PowerMac 6500/225 also shows the same symptoms. The boot > floppy (and the ofonlyboot floppy, as well) are read -- seemingly > successfully -- but the Tux/Mac icon never goes away. > > I apologize to Malte. You were right. I was wrong.

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-10 Thread Rick_Thomas
Sadly, My PowerMac 6500/225 also shows the same symptoms. The boot floppy (and the ofonlyboot floppy, as well) are read -- seemingly successfully -- but the Tux/Mac icon never goes away. I apologize to Malte. You were right. I was wrong. The kernel on the floppies seems to be broken. Enjoy!

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-10 Thread Rick_Thomas
My report on my attempt to boot an oldworld Mac from floppy is below... On Sat, 2004-04-10 at 02:36, Sven Luther wrote: > On Sat, Apr 10, 2004 at 01:24:27AM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote: > > On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 14:28, Rick Thomas wrote: > > > > > Malte Cornils wrote: > > > > > > > > but I would app

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-09 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Apr 10, 2004 at 01:24:27AM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote: > On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 14:28, Rick Thomas wrote: > > > Malte Cornils wrote: > > > > > > but I would appreciate it if someone > > > could test the current images (Holger?) on similar hardware. > > > > > > I'll test the latest daily-bui

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-09 Thread Rick_Thomas
On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 16:02, Frans Pop wrote: > > On Friday 09 April 2004 21:49, Rick Thomas wrote: > > This is OldWorld PowerMac. > > > > Booting off of floppy uses the miboot bootloader. It's not like lilo or > > grub on i386. There's no point in the process where you get to enter > > that kin

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-09 Thread Rick_Thomas
On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 14:28, Rick Thomas wrote: > Malte Cornils wrote: > > > > but I would appreciate it if someone > > could test the current images (Holger?) on similar hardware. > > > I'll test the latest daily-build boot floppies this weekend on both of > my test machines and send you a repo

Bug#241516: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-09 Thread Rick_Thomas
Colin, On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 18:06, Colin Watson wrote: > On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 02:40:37PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: > > it always tries to install yaboot (even though archdetect says it's an > > oldworld machine. I think something's broken in the yaboot installer) > > I've filed a bug report.

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-09 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 07:33:23PM +0200, Malte Cornils wrote: > Am Freitag, 9. April 2004 16:16 schrieb Sven Luther: > > On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 03:30:05PM +0200, Malte Cornils wrote: > > > Floppy ejection at this point is normal and could also > > > mean that the kernel boots fine, only that the

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-09 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 02:40:37PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: > > > Sven Luther wrote: > > > > On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 01:37:21AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: > > > Malte, > > > > > > > Rick, does this mean that the daily build floppies work for you now ? > > > > Friendly, > > > > Sven Luther >

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 02:40:37PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: > it always tries to install yaboot (even though archdetect says it's an > oldworld machine. I think something's broken in the yaboot installer) > I've filed a bug report. Hang on, are you saying that it always tries to install *yaboot

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-09 Thread Frans Pop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 09 April 2004 21:49, Rick Thomas wrote: > This is OldWorld PowerMac. > > Booting off of floppy uses the miboot bootloader. It's not like lilo or > grub on i386. There's no point in the process where you get to enter > that kind of stuff. >

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-09 Thread Rick Thomas
Frans Pop wrote: > > On Friday 09 April 2004 20:40, you wrote: > > Booting off of floppy, there is no way to invoke "...PRIORITY=medium" > > mode. It just does the default. > > > Are you sure? > You have to enter 'linux DEBCONF_PRIORITY=medium' > > Frans This is OldWorld PowerMac. Booting off

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-09 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 01:37:21AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: > > Malte, > > > > Rick, does this mean that the daily build floppies work for you now ? > > Friendly, > > Sven Luther Yes. It reads all the floppies and launches d-i as expected. I still have problems wit

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-09 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi! See comments interleaved below... Rick Malte Cornils wrote: > > Hi Rick, > > On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 01:37:21AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: > > Errors like that are usually symptomatic of a dirty/dusty floppy drive. > > > > In particular, if the boot floppy is ejected, it means that the > >

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-09 Thread Malte Cornils
Am Freitag, 9. April 2004 16:16 schrieb Sven Luther: > On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 03:30:05PM +0200, Malte Cornils wrote: > > Floppy ejection at this point is normal and could also > > mean that the kernel boots fine, only that the local console is > > broken. > > Can you tell me what kind of graphic t

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-09 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 12:32:01AM +0200, Malte Cornils wrote: > Hi. > > Also, the two most recent autobuilt floppy images have root.img and cd/ > net-drivers.img, but lack boot.img and ofonlyboot.img. Arg. I did forgot to uncoment the building of those, will rectify this for my future builds, in

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-09 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 03:30:05PM +0200, Malte Cornils wrote: > Hi Rick, > > On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 01:37:21AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: > > Errors like that are usually symptomatic of a dirty/dusty floppy drive. > > > > In particular, if the boot floppy is ejected, it means that the > > firmw

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-09 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 01:37:21AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: > Malte, > Rick, does this mean that the daily build floppies work for you now ? Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-09 Thread Malte Cornils
Hi Rick, On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 01:37:21AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: > Errors like that are usually symptomatic of a dirty/dusty floppy drive. > > In particular, if the boot floppy is ejected, it means that the > firmware got an error trying to read it, or couldn't find the magic > numbers in

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-08 Thread Rick Thomas
Malte, Errors like that are usually symptomatic of a dirty/dusty floppy drive. In particular, if the boot floppy is ejected, it means that the firmware got an error trying to read it, or couldn't find the magic numbers in the magic places that it was expecting from a real-live Macintosh boot f

d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-08 Thread Malte Cornils
Hi. I reported recently on my failure to use the d-i floppies for the 4400/200. I tested the current (04/06/2004) bootfloppies on that machine and an 7200/75 (redundancy in floppy disk drives ;-)). On the 7200, both ofonlyboot and boot fail to display anything on the local console (but eject t