Bug#402772: bug 402772: downgrade mplayer bug 395252 (for including mplayer in etch)

2006-12-19 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Dec 16, 2006 at 11:03:50AM +0100, A Mennucc wrote: [preface: the following is just for the sake of discussion - I am satisfied by how we reached an agreement] Steve Langasek ha scritto: On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 01:02:55PM +0100, A Mennucc wrote: ffmpeg is developed inside MPlayer ;

Bug#402772: bug 402772: downgrade mplayer bug 395252 (for including mplayer in etch)

2006-12-19 Thread A Mennucc
Steve Langasek ha scritto: Um, I said this would be my conclusion if it were my decision *personally*. I'm not the maintainer of any of these packages, so it's not. :) sorry, I failed to understand the meaning of personally a. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Bug#395252: Bug#402772: bug 402772: downgrade mplayer bug 395252 (for including mplayer in etch)

2006-12-16 Thread Steve Langasek
tags 395252 etch-ignore thanks On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 11:58:10AM +0100, A Mennucc wrote: Steve Langasek ha scritto: On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 09:24:05AM +0100, A Mennucc wrote: Just for the record: the release team had already expressed his view (in a sense): in Oct, there was already a

Bug#402772: bug 402772: downgrade mplayer bug 395252 (for including mplayer in etch)

2006-12-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 01:02:55PM +0100, A Mennucc wrote: lets come to today today, the ffmpeg inside Debian is 6 months older then the one in MPlayer; for that reason , DynLEF fails . When I tried it, I also tried 'make -k' , to see if there were few failures that I could fix; but the

Bug#402772: bug 402772: downgrade mplayer bug 395252 (for including mplayer in etch)

2006-12-16 Thread A Mennucc
[preface: the following is just for the sake of discussion - I am satisfied by how we reached an agreement] Steve Langasek ha scritto: On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 01:02:55PM +0100, A Mennucc wrote: ffmpeg is developed inside MPlayer ; for that reason, they (correctly) feel free to improve it in

Bug#402772: bug 402772: downgrade mplayer bug 395252 (for including mplayer in etch)

2006-12-16 Thread Loïc Minier
On Sat, Dec 16, 2006, A Mennucc wrote: we delete ffmpeg from Debian stable, since it is not really a library yet We can also keep ffmpeg (the binary), without its lib. :) so we also delete ffmpeg from inside: libxine1 , used in xine-lib builds against Debian's ffmpeg AFAICT, *not*

Bug#402772: bug 402772: downgrade mplayer bug 395252 (for including mplayer in etch)

2006-12-16 Thread A Mennucc
I am sorry, there were many misunderstanding (my argument was not clear enough - and it was too verbose) Let me be a bit more precise. I repeat my (hypothetical) reasoning. --- Steve said: if it were my decision *personally*, I would likely judge mplayer/ffmpeg too immature to be included

Bug#402772: bug 402772: downgrade mplayer bug 395252 (for including mplayer in etch)

2006-12-16 Thread Loïc Minier
On Sat, Dec 16, 2006, A Mennucc wrote: BTW: after etch is release, you (AFAICR) are willing to update gst-ffmpeg to use DynLEF (as Josselin was proposing). Yes, but only because it was merged upstream, and with the additional maintenance costs it involves. BTW, an upstream developer already

Bug#402772: bug 402772: downgrade mplayer bug 395252 (for including mplayer in etch)

2006-12-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 09:24:05AM +0100, A Mennucc wrote: Just for the record: the release team had already expressed his view (in a sense): in Oct, there was already a (informal) discussion in #d-release, and the opinion was that this bug 295252 was not RC at all. However, the release team

Bug#402772: bug 402772: downgrade mplayer bug 395252 (for including mplayer in etch)

2006-12-15 Thread A Mennucc
Steve Langasek ha scritto: On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 09:24:05AM +0100, A Mennucc wrote: Just for the record: the release team had already expressed his view (in a sense): in Oct, there was already a (informal) discussion in #d-release, and the opinion was that this bug 295252 was not RC at

Bug#402772: bug 402772: downgrade mplayer bug 395252 (for including mplayer in etch)

2006-12-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 09:17:10PM +0100, A Mennucc wrote: This question is urgent, in the sense that I would like your help about bug 395252, that as so far stopped mplayer from entering in Etch. Brief summary of bug: MPlayer contains an embedded copy of FFmpeg (indeed, they are developed

Bug#402772: bug 402772: downgrade mplayer bug 395252 (for including mplayer in etch)

2006-12-15 Thread A Mennucc
Steve Langasek ha scritto: There is a middle ground here, which is mplayer statically linking against the common ffmpeg package; I think that would be a reasonable compromise, and I'd like to know if there are reasons this too isn't achievable for etch. There may be known reasons, of course

Bug#402772: bug 402772: downgrade mplayer bug 395252 (for including mplayer in etch)

2006-12-13 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 08:01:58AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: Actually, I think we should refuse dealing with the issue now, because according to Don (wearing [EMAIL PROTECTED] hat) the decision whether a bug is RC or not is done by the release team, not the maintainer - and the release team

Bug#402772: bug 402772: downgrade mplayer bug 395252 (for including mplayer in etch)

2006-12-13 Thread A Mennucc
Anthony Towns ha scritto: Uploading dynamically linked ffmpeg/mplayer packages to experimental for inclusion in unstable in the near future seems like a sensible thing to do too. I actually tried to do that. Even though I did not think 395252 should be a RC bug, nonetheless I tried to

Bug#402772: bug 402772: downgrade mplayer bug 395252 (for including mplayer in etch)

2006-12-13 Thread A Mennucc
Anthony Towns ha scritto: Moritz has expressed significant concern that the security team won't be able to manage that support in the bug log, though according to [0] thinks an exception is appropriate: [snip] If that's the case, I think that alone resolves the problem; and I think that