Hi Lev, Jonas,
I've uploaded 8.1.30. We should be getting really close to 8.2
now. There are a couple of outstanding issues, notably for the
development tools.
Cheers --- Jan
On 4/30/20 3:13 PM, Lev Lamberov wrote:
Sure, that's what we need. Thanks, Jan!
On 4/30/20 2:50 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Quoting Lev Lamberov (2020-04-30 14:40:53)
Чт 30 апр 2020 @ 14:06 Jan Wielemaker :
On 4/30/20 1:41 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
I think we can use the format almost as-is - just replacing the
leading "swipl-" with "swi-prolog-abi-".
I think adding
Чт 30 апр 2020 @ 14:56 Jan Wielemaker :
> On 4/30/20 2:50 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>> Quoting Lev Lamberov (2020-04-30 14:40:53)
>>> Чт 30 апр 2020 @ 14:06 Jan Wielemaker :
>>>
On 4/30/20 1:41 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> I think we can use the format almost as-is - just replacing
Quoting Lev Lamberov (2020-04-30 14:40:53)
> Чт 30 апр 2020 @ 14:06 Jan Wielemaker :
>
> > On 4/30/20 1:41 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> >> I think we can use the format almost as-is - just replacing the
> >> leading "swipl-" with "swi-prolog-abi-".
> >
> > I think adding "abi" makes sense. I
Чт 30 апр 2020 @ 14:06 Jan Wielemaker :
> On 4/30/20 1:41 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>> I think we can use the format almost as-is - just replacing the leading
>> "swipl-" with "swi-prolog-abi-".
>
> I think adding "abi" makes sense. I can replace "swipl" with the
> package name, which is
On 4/30/20 1:41 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
I think we can use the format almost as-is - just replacing the leading
"swipl-" with "swi-prolog-abi-".
I think adding "abi" makes sense. I can replace "swipl" with the
package name, which is "swi-prolog" for Debian.
--- Jan
Quoting Lev Lamberov (2020-04-30 12:16:31)
> Чт 30 апр 2020 @ 11:40 Jan Wielemaker :
> > On 4/28/20 5:26 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> >> Quoting Jan Wielemaker (2020-04-28 16:56:30)
> >
> >>> That is worth a try. I guess that implies that generating
> >>> SWI-Prolog (as package) also generates
Чт 30 апр 2020 @ 12:42 Jonas Smedegaard :
> Quoting Jan Wielemaker (2020-04-30 11:40:32)
>> On 4/28/20 5:26 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>> > Quoting Jan Wielemaker (2020-04-28 16:56:30)
>>
>> >> That is worth a try. I guess that implies that generating
>> >> SWI-Prolog (as package) also
Quoting Jan Wielemaker (2020-04-30 11:40:32)
> On 4/28/20 5:26 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > Quoting Jan Wielemaker (2020-04-28 16:56:30)
>
> >> That is worth a try. I guess that implies that generating
> >> SWI-Prolog (as package) also generates this hash. What kind of
> >> support would
Hi,
Чт 30 апр 2020 @ 11:40 Jan Wielemaker :
> Hi Jonas,
>
> On 4/28/20 5:26 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>> Quoting Jan Wielemaker (2020-04-28 16:56:30)
>
>>> That is worth a try. I guess that implies that generating SWI-Prolog
>>> (as package) also generates this hash. What kind of support
Hi Jonas,
On 4/28/20 5:26 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Quoting Jan Wielemaker (2020-04-28 16:56:30)
That is worth a try. I guess that implies that generating SWI-Prolog
(as package) also generates this hash. What kind of support would be
needed from SWI-Prolog to make this work? Some
Hi Jan,
Вт 28 апр 2020 @ 16:56 Jan Wielemaker :
>> Debian packaging of Asterisk and uWSGI uses such ABI hash towards third
>> party plugins, to alow them to be rebuilt as infrequently as possible.
>> See e.g. https://packages.debian.org/buster/uwsgi-plugin-php and
>>
Hi Jan,
Quoting Jan Wielemaker (2020-04-28 16:12:32)
> A saved state makes sense for this scenario. Now I do not really
> understand what the problem is. The eye package depends on some exact
> version of SWI-Prolog, but it is not uncommon for one package to
> require some specific version of
Hi Jonas,
On 4/28/20 4:42 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Hi Jan,
Quoting Jan Wielemaker (2020-04-28 16:12:32)
A saved state makes sense for this scenario. Now I do not really
understand what the problem is. The eye package depends on some exact
version of SWI-Prolog, but it is not uncommon for
Hi Jos, Lev, Jonas,
A saved state makes sense for this scenario. Now I do not really
understand what the problem is. The eye package depends on some exact
version of SWI-Prolog, but it is not uncommon for one package to
require some specific version of a library, no?
Is the real problem that we
On 4/28/20 5:06 PM, Lev Lamberov wrote:
Hi Jan,
Вт 28 апр 2020 @ 16:56 Jan Wielemaker :
Debian packaging of Asterisk and uWSGI uses such ABI hash towards third
party plugins, to alow them to be rebuilt as infrequently as possible.
See e.g. https://packages.debian.org/buster/uwsgi-plugin-php
Quoting Jan Wielemaker (2020-04-28 16:56:30)
> On 4/28/20 4:42 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > The problem - which I consider a minor one - is to know for certain
> > when it is needed to regenerate an image.
> >
> > I prefer that the binary package for eye contains only the generated
> > image
Hi Lev,
Yes indeed, eye is using a saved state to have it started 10 times faster
than normal:
$ time swipl -x /opt/eye/lib/eye.pvm -- --version
eye --version
EYE v20.0423.1748 josd
SWI-Prolog version 8.1.29
starting 31 [msec cputime] 37 [msec walltime]
real 0m0.041s
user 0m0.037s
sys 0m0.004s
Hi Lev,
I most wanted to get Jos in the loop as the developer of eye. Packagers
working together with developers/maintainers saves a lot of work :)
Cheers --- Jan
On 4/28/20 12:49 PM, Lev Lamberov wrote:
Hi Jan,
Вт 28 апр 2020 @ 11:22 Jan Wielemaker :
Hi Lev, Jos,
For Jos, the
Вт 28 апр 2020 @ 16:30 Lev Lamberov :
> Вт 28 апр 2020 @ 13:11 Jan Wielemaker :
>
>> Hi Lev,
>>
>> I most wanted to get Jos in the loop as the developer of eye. Packagers
>> working together with developers/maintainers saves a lot of work :)
>
> Awww... so, CCing Jos De Roo.
>
> Jos, could you
Вт 28 апр 2020 @ 13:11 Jan Wielemaker :
> Hi Lev,
>
> I most wanted to get Jos in the loop as the developer of eye. Packagers
> working together with developers/maintainers saves a lot of work :)
Awww... so, CCing Jos De Roo.
Jos, could you be so kind to take a look at the #958561 Debian bug
Hi Jan,
Вт 28 апр 2020 @ 11:22 Jan Wielemaker :
> Hi Lev, Jos,
>
> For Jos, the problem is that eye installs as a SWI-Prolog saved state,
> which is highly version dependent and this is difficult to deal with
> given the Debian dependency and upgrade policy (Lev, hope this is the
> right
Quoting Lev Lamberov (2020-04-28 09:35:31)
> I've got the following response from swi-prolog upstream about the
> issue:
>
> Вс 26 апр 2020 @ 09:30 Jan Wielemaker :
>
> > Need to think a bit about the ABI issue. Basically, saved states are
> > incompatible between versions, although you can
Hi,
I've got the following response from swi-prolog upstream about the issue:
Вс 26 апр 2020 @ 09:30 Jan Wielemaker :
> Need to think a bit about the ABI issue. Basically, saved states are
> incompatible between versions, although you can have some luck on
> closely related versions. There are
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