Bug#605777: Bug#605065: Bug#605777: Bug#607662: Bug#605777: Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2011-01-05 Thread Robert Millan
2011/1/4 Adam D. Barratt : > As the freebsd-utils change has hit testing after all, is unblocking > ncurses to go with it sufficient, or do we need further changes? This is what Petr said after asking me to revert those patches: Later we might provide sed script to alter loaded keymap into po

Bug#605065: Bug#605777: Bug#607662: Bug#605777: Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2011-01-04 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 00:17 +0200, Modestas Vainius wrote: > Hello, > > On trečiadienis 05 Sausis 2011 00:09:21 Adam D. Barratt wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-12-29 at 20:07 +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: > > > On 2010-12-29 00:36 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 20:44 +0100, Sven

Bug#605065: Bug#605777: Bug#607662: Bug#605777: Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2011-01-04 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello, On trečiadienis 05 Sausis 2011 00:09:21 Adam D. Barratt wrote: > On Wed, 2010-12-29 at 20:07 +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: > > On 2010-12-29 00:36 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > > > On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 20:44 +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: > > >> On 2010-12-27 19:51 +0100, Petr Salinger wrote: >

Bug#605065: Bug#605777: Bug#607662: Bug#605777: Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2011-01-04 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Wed, 2010-12-29 at 20:07 +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2010-12-29 00:36 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > > > On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 20:44 +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: > >> On 2010-12-27 19:51 +0100, Petr Salinger wrote: > >> > So best option for now seems be to prevent > >> > freebsd-utils 8.1-3

Bug#605065: Bug#607662: Bug#605065: Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2010-12-29 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-12-29 10:12 +0100, Modestas Vainius wrote: > On pirmadienis 27 Gruodis 2010 19:52:06 Robert Millan wrote: >> 2010/12/27 Petr Salinger : >> > I see two basic options: >> > >> > [...] >> > And there is a third option, mixture of both above. [...] >> >> There's a fourth option: backporting

Bug#605777: Bug#607662: Bug#605777: Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2010-12-29 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-12-29 00:36 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 20:44 +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: >> On 2010-12-27 19:51 +0100, Petr Salinger wrote: >> > So best option for now seems be to prevent >> > freebsd-utils 8.1-3 from entering testing and a new upload of >> > kfreebsd-8. >> >> F

Bug#605065: Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2010-12-29 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello, On pirmadienis 27 Gruodis 2010 19:52:06 Robert Millan wrote: > 2010/12/27 Petr Salinger : > > I see two basic options: > > > > [...] > > And there is a third option, mixture of both above. [...] > > There's a fourth option: backporting TEKEN_XTERM from 9-current. Actually, I really like

Bug#605065: Bug#605777: Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2010-12-28 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 20:44 +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2010-12-27 19:51 +0100, Petr Salinger wrote: > > So best option for now seems be to prevent > > freebsd-utils 8.1-3 from entering testing and a new upload of > > kfreebsd-8. > > For the record, freebsd-utils 8.1-3 will migrate in three da

Bug#605777: Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2010-12-27 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-12-27 19:51 +0100, Petr Salinger wrote: >>> The cons25-debian seems be fine for me, as it should be only local >>> change for one release of Debian GNU/kFreeBSD. The next one will not >>> use it. >> >> Any name is fine with me as long as ncurses upstream accepts it. > > The next debian rel

Bug#605065: Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2010-12-27 Thread Robert Millan
2010/12/27 Petr Salinger : > > I see two basic options: > > [...] > And there is a third option, mixture of both above. [...] There's a fourth option: backporting TEKEN_XTERM from 9-current. (I'm not speaking in favour of it, I have no idea whether it'd be feasible or not) -- Robert Millan -

Bug#605065: Bug#607662: Bug#605065: Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2010-12-27 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-12-27 09:52 +0100, Petr Salinger wrote: > I see two basic options: > > 1) plain cons25 variant: current sysvinit, ncurses >and kfreebsd-8 8.1+dfsg-6, freebsd-utils 8.1-2 > > It does not conform to debian policy, the backspace/delete key is > somewhat broken on console and somewhat brok

Bug#605065: Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2010-12-27 Thread Petr Salinger
How long is that going to take? In the meantime, console users of GNU/kFreeBSD are screwed whenever they connect to other systems, since that means they must change their TERM variable _and_ their backspace key is broken. I've attached the necessary patches to create the cons25-debian terminfo

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2010-12-26 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > user release.debian@packages.debian.org Setting user to release.debian@packages.debian.org (was jcris...@debian.org). > usertag 607662 squeeze-can-defer Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD c

Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2010-12-26 Thread Julien Cristau
user release.debian@packages.debian.org usertag 607662 squeeze-can-defer tag 607662 squeeze-ignore kthxbye On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 22:06:00 +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: > Package: ncurses-base > Version: 5.7+20100313-4 > Severity: serious > X-Debbugs-CC: debian-...@lists.debian.org > > The cha

Bug#605065: Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2010-12-23 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-12-23 19:32 +0100, brian m. carlson wrote: > On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 05:10:28PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: >> I don't see how this follows. People having an xterm-like terminal that >> is not compatible with Debian's xterm terminfo entry can easily work >> around it by setting TERM=xterm-

Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2010-12-23 Thread brian m. carlson
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 05:10:28PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: > I don't see how this follows. People having an xterm-like terminal that > is not compatible with Debian's xterm terminfo entry can easily work > around it by setting TERM=xterm-r6 or similar when they connect to a > Debian machine. W

Bug#605777: Bug#607662: Bug#605065: Bug#607662: Bug#605065: Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2010-12-23 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-12-23 04:17 +0100, Petr Salinger wrote: >>> It seems that current plain FreeBSD kernel generates events >>> that fully corresponds to cons25 entry. >>> >>> It just uses different definitions for kbs and kdch1 wrt Linux, >>> >>> Linux: kbs=\177 kdch1=\E[3~ >>> FreeBSD/cons25 kbs=^

Bug#605065: Bug#607662: Bug#605065: Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2010-12-22 Thread Petr Salinger
It seems that current plain FreeBSD kernel generates events that fully corresponds to cons25 entry. It just uses different definitions for kbs and kdch1 wrt Linux, Linux: kbs=\177 kdch1=\E[3~ FreeBSD/cons25 kbs=^H kdch1=\177 Emacs, for instance, does not expect ^H to mean "delete

Bug#607662: Bug#605065: Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2010-12-22 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-12-22 08:41 +0100, Petr Salinger wrote: > It seems that current plain FreeBSD kernel generates events > that fully corresponds to cons25 entry. > > It just uses different definitions for kbs and kdch1 wrt Linux, > > Linux: kbs=\177 kdch1=\E[3~ > FreeBSD/cons25s kbs=^H kdch1=\177

Bug#605777: Bug#605065: Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2010-12-21 Thread Petr Salinger
You really can't just unilaterally change the cons25 terminfo entry. If this proposed change is implemented, people running stock FreeBSD will have their consoles broken if they log into a Debian system. If kFreeBSD needs different settings than the stock cons25 entry, it needs to create and use

Bug#605777: Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2010-12-21 Thread brian m. carlson
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 08:24:35AM +0100, Petr Salinger wrote: > >You really can't just unilaterally change the cons25 terminfo entry. If > >this proposed change is implemented, people running stock FreeBSD will > >have their consoles broken if they log into a Debian system. If > >kFreeBSD needs

Bug#605065: Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2010-12-21 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello, On antradienis 21 Gruodis 2010 09:24:35 Petr Salinger wrote: > >> The changes to the kFreeBSD console and the kbdcontrol package (see > >> #605065 and #605777) need to be accompanied by changing the cons25 > >> terminfo entry accordingly, otherwise ncurses-based programs severely > >> misbe

Bug#605065: Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2010-12-21 Thread Robert Millan
2010/12/21 Petr Salinger : > > I propose revert changes in kernel and kbdcontrol and ask for ignore tag > for this "technology preview" release. I second this. This would make it easier to coordinate with upstream and at least agree on what name to use. Release pressure wouldn't play well with t

Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2010-12-21 Thread Robert Millan
2010/12/21 Sven Joachim : > I suppose that ncurses-base would ship the terminfo entry for it, and > kfreebsd-image-* packages need to depend on an ncurses-base version that > has this terminfo entry, right?  Any suggestions for the name? Given that we might want to try merge these changes upstream

Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2010-12-21 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, 21 Dec 2010, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2010-12-21 04:58 +0100, brian m. carlson wrote: On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:06:00PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: The changes to the kFreeBSD console and the kbdcontrol package (see #605065 and #605777) need to be accompanied by changing the cons25 term

Bug#605065: Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2010-12-20 Thread Petr Salinger
The changes to the kFreeBSD console and the kbdcontrol package (see #605065 and #605777) need to be accompanied by changing the cons25 terminfo entry accordingly, otherwise ncurses-based programs severely misbehave. You really can't just unilaterally change the cons25 terminfo entry. If this pr

Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2010-12-20 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-12-21 04:58 +0100, brian m. carlson wrote: > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:06:00PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: >> The changes to the kFreeBSD console and the kbdcontrol package (see >> #605065 and #605777) need to be accompanied by changing the cons25 >> terminfo entry accordingly, otherwise n

Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2010-12-20 Thread brian m. carlson
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:06:00PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: > The changes to the kFreeBSD console and the kbdcontrol package (see > #605065 and #605777) need to be accompanied by changing the cons25 > terminfo entry accordingly, otherwise ncurses-based programs severely > misbehave. You really c

Bug#607662: ncurses-base: backspace key deletes forwards on the kFreeBSD console

2010-12-20 Thread Sven Joachim
Package: ncurses-base Version: 5.7+20100313-4 Severity: serious X-Debbugs-CC: debian-...@lists.debian.org The changes to the kFreeBSD console and the kbdcontrol package (see #605065 and #605777) need to be accompanied by changing the cons25 terminfo entry accordingly, otherwise ncurses-based progr