Bug#766708: Processed: Re: Bug#766708: breaks multiarch cross building

2014-11-01 Thread Helmut Grohne
On Sat, Nov 01, 2014 at 01:46:48AM +, Wookey wrote: To me that sounds like this method is actually the current de-facto default in Debian - it is certainly at least on a par. I don't think that a feature being de-facto default is a good argument to force maintaining it forever. There

Bug#762194: automatic switching - two proposals

2014-11-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Here are two texts as I promised. The first one (A) is just what Russ and others said they would support. The second, (B), is a longer text which invites technical proposals for non-auto-changing but explicitly avoids interfering with the GR. If we can get a majority for something like B I think

Bug#746578: libpam-systemd to flip dependencies - proposal

2014-11-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Here is my draft, just committed to git. I'm open to suggestions for changes. If we can't agree on the rationale I guess we could leave it out. Ian. Rationale (Constitution 6.1(5)): 1. Currently libpam-systemd (which is pulled in by quite a few dependency chains) Depends on `systemd-sysv

Bug#762194: automatic switching - two proposals

2014-11-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes: If you would support something like B but only if it had some changes to wording, please let me know ASAP. = text in version B only = 2. We are currently sceptical about the idea that existing Debian GNU/Linux systems should be

Bug#746578: libpam-systemd to flip dependencies - proposal

2014-11-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes: Rationale (Constitution 6.1(5)): 1. Currently libpam-systemd (which is pulled in by quite a few dependency chains) Depends on `systemd-sysv | systemd-shim'. 2. The effect of this is that installing certain leaf packages which depend