On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no wrote:
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On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl wrote:
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 05:29:42PM -0800, Cameron Norman wrote:
I would like to propose a different one.
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So
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl wrote:
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 05:29:42PM -0800, Cameron Norman wrote:
I would like to propose a different one.
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So, the change would be that: the sysvinit package would cease being a
transition / shim package, however
to come,
which makes the distribution more difficult to support.
If there was an intention to do so, how would we go about switching
systems over to systemd in the next release, if we use the solution
displayed here in Jessie?
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On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Cameron Norman
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Hello,
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 5:21 AM, Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl wrote:
Hi!
As Ansgar requests technical solutions, here's one:
just like systemd-shim|systemd-sysv, switch the init package from
Pre
| sysvinit-core | upstart.
If an automatic switch is something that the project wants, but after
Jessie, then then the init dependency would be changed to
systemd-sysv | sysvinit-core | upstart.
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for?
If you are going to the work of parsing it all, would it not make
sense to make a systemd generator out of it?
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just picky about who its friends are
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to this is when you remove bash, and you get a
loud warning at that point.
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be simply an aesthetic issue, as systemd-shim does not impede
operation of systemd as init.
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be available in a particular format (e.g. 32x32 png) so
that WMs do not have to handle so many corner cases in that area.
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is very stressful, and that is never
good. I do not know your taste in music, but maybe you will like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNygDLi9gb4.
Top of the day,
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of your other message (that you would
not be surprised if upstart support was removed) seems like it is.
Would you mind clarifying a little?
Thanks y buenos noches,
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] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=712763
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he presented the question to
the TC (or am I mistaken?).
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with it. The same could be said of systemd, though
(with GNOME and KDE instead of Pantheon and Cinnamon), though.
Have a great day,
Cameron
function properly with no intervention.
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start logind without GNOME starting.
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as Ubuntu continues using upstart.
If you have the time, I must ask: if Upstart had no CLA, would you
prefer it over systemd?
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will have a small, confined effect when doing so and should be
allowed.
Regards,
Cameron
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
I wanted to lift this out of the thread it was buried in and see if I'm
understanding it correctly, since if I am, it seems like a significant
issue.
Cameron Norman camerontnor...@gmail.com writes:
I think you raise a lot
--debian-Z) to ensure that the daemon does not
hang on sysv or systemd?
Cheers,
Cameron Norman
explained how it has already happened. systemd's
cgroup interface is covered under the stability promise, and seems like a
good fit for a standard interface to the single cgroup arbitrator.
Cameron
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 4:56 AM, Colin Watson cjwat...@debian.org wrote:
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 04:27:16AM -0008, cameron wrote:
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Colin Watson cjwat...@debian.org
inotify is used to notice changes to configuration files. This is
certainly helpful for users
jobs, and Debian will most likely inherit
that behavior if it uses Upstart.
Happy New Year,
Cameron Norman
$ cat jobOne.conf
start on (starting jobTwo and runlevel stop on runlevel [016])
stop on runlevel [016]
respawn
script
exec /bin/sleep 60
end script
$ cat jobTwo.conf
start
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Nikolaus Rath nikol...@rath.org wrote:
Cameron Norman camerontnor...@gmail.com writes:
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Nikolaus Rath nikol...@rath.org wrote:
Colin Watson cjwat...@debian.org writes:
The criticisms of Upstart's event model in the systemd
.
Good night,
Cameron Norman
was written to
use it, and only recently did that change. I agree it was a poor design
choice, and the systemd devs did not outright oppose it (as they should
have IMO), but it was not technically systemd's fault.
Best regards,
Cameron Norman
Steve,
I am very sorry, I did not see the paragraph. I will familiarize myself
with the debate system before contributing to it again.
Happy New Years,
Cameron Norman
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org
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On Wed, Jan 01, 2014 at 01:54:17AM -0008, cameron
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no wrote:
If this is not required by systemd, why is it done by sd_notify ?
It's not.
You obviously did not read the code. It is. Here is a G+ convo with
Lennart I had:
As a sender you only have to set SCM_CREDENTIALS
The documentation says what sd_notify() does, not what the minimum
requirements are. The documentation should be clarified IMO, but
Lennart does not seem to want to do so (even though he already typed up
a paragraph about it on G+).
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Ian Jackson
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
The latest that I have seen on this porting effort is here:
http://blog.surgut.co.uk/2013/11/libnih-upstart-dependency-ported-to.html
I asked previously on this bug if someone had later news. Do you have
more information
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no wrote:
]] cameron
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no
wrote:
If this is not required by systemd, why is it done by sd_notify
?
It's not.
You obviously did not read the code. It is. Here
are
probably
still lying around. We don't even necessarily have to choose between
those up-front.
Cheers,
Cameron Norman
in
launchpad asking for the per-job logs to be able to be shown by initctl
(possibly via a --show-logs option)? In fact, I just did it:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/1265123.
(P.S. sorry for the sass, it is just so fun :)
Nighty night,
Cameron Norman
, it is used in one init system already,
and it is very extensible. Now that you know that systemd does not
actually use SOCK_SEQPACKET, but SOCK_DGRAM, do you have any changes in
opinion of the systemd approach?
Thank you for your time,
Cameron Norman
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