I think it covers everything; would you mind floating it before a
broader audience though (gnu.emacs.misc perhaps, if not also
comp.protocols.x.something?)
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Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The credit should really go to Lars Wirzenius and Ian Jackson,
> since this borrows from their work. If there is enough interest, I
> could package this up. (Oh, this is a sh script, and only needs
> dpkg-dev, no perl ;-)
Please do so. CVS is
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vadim Vygonets) wrote on 26.05.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> BTW, why does runlevel 6 mean reboot? Can't it be runlevel 9? It (6)
> seems to be the standard in Linux boxen now, but why?
It's been standard in runlevel-based Unix for a long time. That's probably
because tradi
>BTW, why does runlevel 6 mean reboot? Can't it be runlevel 9? It (6)
>seems to be the standard in Linux boxen now, but why?
AFAIK, it is 6 for reboot since that is what most othe SysV-ish Unixen
use (like Irix and Solaris)
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I don't think wish is the right name. Unless you're familiar with tk (as
> opposed to just trying to get it installed), you may not know that the tk
> interperter is named wish.
You don't need to. As a user, you inst
Hi,
If you just send a message to @bugs.debian.org, the
package maintainer will get a mail message in the mailbox, and
any additional information you supply would go to the same place,
rather than be scattered to the four [why four?] winds.
So I would say, go right ahead and ad
Sam Ockman:
> Say I discover a bug (for example in xlockmore) and it's the same bug
> that's already been reported (10085). Does it make any sense for me to
> report it again, so that the maintainer knows it is effecting more than
> one person? It seems that this could be useful both as a way to
Hi,
I would really like to get into using CVS for my package
development tree, but I have been held back by the hassle of
releasing packages. I have no problems testing packages with
./debian/rules binary
and I always used dpkg-buildpackage for the last step, so I have
written a scrip
For the convinience of non-German debian-devel readers I should have
asked my questions in English ...
Translated version follows.
Sven
Harald Koenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> On May 26, Sven Rudolph wrote:
> > At the Linux Congress you mentioned that it were a good idea
> > fo
Say I discover a bug (for example in xlockmore) and it's the same bug
that's already been reported (10085). Does it make any sense for me to
report it again, so that the maintainer knows it is effecting more than
one person? It seems that this could be useful both as a way to encourage
the mainta
Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Don't know either. But it's been some time I wonder why this link
> isn't updated on boot to point to "boot/System.map-`uname -r`", or
> suppress the link and issue a warning if the latter is absent. This
> would ensure correctness, I think.
That's not ne
Hi,
>>"Christoph" == Christoph Lameter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Christoph> Emacs is one application. We want to use an existing
Christoph> STANDARD not screw up one more. Emacs can be
Christoph> adapted. Please do use existing standards for keyboard
Christoph> layouts and character mapping!
On May 26, Sven Rudolph wrote:
> Auf dem Linux-Kongress meintest du, dass es fuer Debian sinnvoll
> waere, auf XFree86-3.3 zu warten.
>
> Ich habe mal etwas rumgefragt; man scheint von der Idee nicht
> besonders begeistert zu sein.
IMHO it would be very pitty not to use XFree86 3.3...
> Insbeso
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christoph Lameter) wrote on 26.05.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> : What we want is:
> : * `<--' always deletes the character to the left of the cursor.
> : * `Delete' always deletes to the right.
> : * `Control'+`H' produces help in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Jackson) wrote on 26.05.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> What we want is:
> * `<--' always deletes the character to the left of the cursor.
> * `Delete' always deletes to the right.
> * `Control'+`H' produces help in Emacs, as before.
> We want this to be true for the consol
From: Fabrizio Polacco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Anyway, the whole feature seems strange to me, because usually man
> hierarchies are at the same level of binary dirs, not under them.
It doesn't make any sense. If it were implemented sensibly it would be
looking at /../man .
I think the proper behavi
On May 26, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote
> hy.
>
> AFAIK there is no manual, list or whatever of debian specific things.
> so, what about moving all manpages that are debian related to have the
> suffix "debian" ? this way anyone can go and say : ok, i know unix, and
> i was using other distributions
Santiago Vila Doncel writes:
> I have just installed a fresh system from scratch using the latest boot
> floppies. At the end, I had a dangling symlink:
>
> System.map -> boot/System.map-
>
> pointing to nowhere. No idea how this happened.
Don't know either. But it's been some time I wonde
On Mon, 26 May 1997, Christian Hudon wrote:
> On May 26, Pete Templin wrote
> >
> > > I've removed group write permissions from my home dir because of the
> > > programs like qmail and ssh which don't like it. I don't think
> > > anything would break because of removing these permissions, so ma
On May 26, Pete Templin wrote
>
> On 26 May 1997, Carey Evans wrote:
>
> > I've removed group write permissions from my home dir because of the
> > programs like qmail and ssh which don't like it. I don't think
> > anything would break because of removing these permissions, so maybe
> > adduser
> Which installation method are you using in dselect? In think you have to
> specify the directory "debian/dists/unstable" as base directory and select
> distributions "main", "contrib", and "non-free".
This would be nice, but the Packages files seem to be set up for /debian to
be the base direct
On Mon, 26 May 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> But I always use dselect, and mysql package just doesnt show up no way
> no how in the Packages file =( And I do have it using hamm/ etc.
> Nothing but the most current. Could this be another case of the Packages
> being out of sync with the actual
Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Perhaps dselect just needs to always update dpkg before calling
> anything else? (dftp does this)
In this case it wouldn't help as the Update breaks it.
Guy
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> Why is this information (about the need to upgrade dpkg
> *first*) not screaming out all over the web pages and the
> installation README's? (pardon me if the information is in the
> README's)
Perhaps dselect just needs to always update dpkg before calling
anything else? (dftp does t
Hello everybody,
On Sat, May 24 1997 11:40 +0200 Andreas Jellinghaus writes:
> there are three tools : cfgtool (lars wirzenius), nod (winfried
> truemper), dcfgtool (mine). and someone is working on a _real_ tool (all
> three have flaws, and if this way we will get a tool with all good
> features)
On Mon, 26 May 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 6: reboot
> 7-9: do whatever the heck you want with.
BTW, why does runlevel 6 mean reboot? Can't it be runlevel 9? It (6)
seems to be the standard in Linux boxen now, but why?
Vadik.
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On Mon, 26 May 1997, Jim Pick wrote:
>I agree 100% with what Ian says. (Let's do it)
Count a MeToo from here :-)
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On Mon, 26 May 1997, Tom Lees wrote:
> > I'd like something similar to:
> > 1: single user
> > 2: multiuser with minimal networking, probably without offering services
> > 3: full networking (NFS, xfs, anonymous ftp, ...)
> > 4: xdm? (yes, it is common on Slackware and RedHat to start xdm
> >ac
Hi,
A jihad-buster ;-(. I agree with Ian, lets do it, as Jim
said.
Manoj
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But I always use dselect, and mysql package just doesnt show up no way
no how in the Packages file =( And I do have it using hamm/ etc.
Nothing but the most current. Could this be another case of the Packages
being out of sync with the actual files? If so, its a sync problem thats
lasted quite
Christian Schwarz:
> > I don't think wish is the right name. Unless you're familiar with tk (as
> > opposed to just trying to get it installed), you may not know that the tk
> > interperter is named wish.
>
> True. What about "tcl-interpreter" and "tk-interpreter" then?
Even I can understand tho
On Mon, 26 May 1997, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
> hy.
>
> AFAIK there is no manual, list or whatever of debian specific things.
> so, what about moving all manpages that are debian related to have the
> suffix "debian" ? this way anyone can go and say : ok, i know unix, and
> i was using other di
On Mon, 26 May 1997, Jim Pick wrote:
> I agree 100% with what Ian says. (Let's do it)
Me too! (I didn't know that such a simple solution is possible :-)
So what about the other keys? I suggest that all character keys, symbols,
etc. should produce the character that's printed on the key (this so
On Mon, 26 May 1997, Joey Hess wrote:
> Andreas Jellinghaus:
> > > Would someone mind if I add the following entry to the list of virtual
> > > package names?
> > wishany package providing a wish
> >
> > these packages might also help.
> > (tcl and tk cannot be used.)
>
> I don't
Jim Pick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I agree 100% with what Ian says. (Let's do it)
Consider this another "me too".
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
: What we want is:
: * `<--' always deletes the character to the left of the cursor.
: * `Delete' always deletes to the right.
: * `Control'+`H' produces help in Emacs, as before.
Emacs is one application. We want to use an existing STANDARD not screw u
I agree 100% with what Ian says. (Let's do it)
Cheers,
- Jim
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On 23 May 1997, Milan Zamazal wrote:
> I know nothing about runlevel standards, just my opinions:
Same here.
> > "AK" == Alexander Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> AK: level 1 is without net, 2 is with it all (imo including nfs
> AK: and the like) and 3 is xdm, 6 was shutdown or
What we want is:
* `<--' always deletes the character to the left of the cursor.
* `Delete' always deletes to the right.
* `Control'+`H' produces help in Emacs, as before.
We want this to be true for the console, for X, and even if you use
rlogin or telnet to get from one system to another.
Wha
Hi,
Do we have any policies regarding additional sytem installed
TeX/LaTeX styles and classes? For example, LaTeX2HTML has a bunch of
style files, which, when used in writing a document, give the author
more control over the rendition of their document into HTML, and it
would be nice t
At 12:33 PM 26/05/97 -0400, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:
>Not sure this helps, but ...
>
>I ran into a problem with compiling serial.o as a module.
>At boot, I configure my serial ports using /boot/0setserial.
>Unfortunately, when kerneld reloads serial.o, it
>reinitializes the serial ports to a defau
'Carey Evans wrote:'
>
>I've removed group write permissions from my home dir because of the
>programs like qmail and ssh which don't like it. I don't think
>anything would break because of removing these permissions, so maybe
>adduser should make home directories mode 755 (or 750)?
Or 751.
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>
>On May 26, Manoj Srivastava wrote
>> Would the doc directory be better for man pages? Why games?
>
>Check out the manpages at http://www.bofh.net/man/:
>lart - Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool - use a lart to adjust lusers'
>attitudes
>sysadmin - responsible f
Rob Browning:
> I just got around to installing ssh so I could learn about it and
> start using it, and I noticed that when I set up one of my machines
> with a valid authorized_keys file and try to connect from another
> machine, I get refused for RSA authentication, and ssh falls back on
> passwo
On Fri, 23 May 1997, David L. Johnson wrote:
> Package: project
> Version: 1.3 (?)
>
> I installed, yesterday, what is supposed to become version 1.3. I got
> this from ftp.debian.org, downloaded to create a local version on a disk
> partition (my connection is via slip, so network installation
Andreas Jellinghaus:
> > Would someone mind if I add the following entry to the list of virtual
> > package names?
> wish any package providing a wish
>
> these packages might also help.
> (tcl and tk cannot be used.)
I don't think wish is the right name. Unless you're familiar with tk (
hy.
AFAIK there is no manual, list or whatever of debian specific things.
so, what about moving all manpages that are debian related to have the
suffix "debian" ? this way anyone can go and say : ok, i know unix, and
i was using other distributions before. lets see how debian is doing
this and tha
Hi,
People will probably have told you this, but the Packages file
was not corrupted, those 1:x.x.xx are critical (these are epochs),
and the problem actually is that the version of dpkg being used is
too old to understand epochs.
Why is this information (about the need to upg
Galen Hazelwood wrote:
> This is a legitimate version format. You failed to upgrade dpkg
> before upgrading everything else. Fellow Debian developers, we
> _really_ need to put up warnings that this needs to be done! Otherwise
> innocent people will corrupt their systems by upgrading.
Maybe w
Not sure this helps, but ...
I ran into a problem with compiling serial.o as a module.
At boot, I configure my serial ports using /boot/0setserial.
Unfortunately, when kerneld reloads serial.o, it
reinitializes the serial ports to a default setting which is
inconsistent with my hardware. Could th
Thomas Koenig wrote:
>
> I just spent an interesting afternoon trying to upgrade a 1.1 system
> to 1.3.
>
> First, /var/lib/dpkg/available was corrupted because of some
> incorrect values in the Version - field (somehow they had gotten to
> the format of 1:1-2 or similar; bug report submitted).
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Carey Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've removed group write permissions from my home dir because of the
> programs like qmail and ssh which don't like it. I don't think
> anything would break because of removing these permissions, so maybe
> adduser
Hi,
>>"Alexander" == Alexander Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Alexander> Such pearls of wisdom need to be what they're done
Alexander> for... Showing up with man...
Alexander> Nobody will die because of that... Hopefully.
Fine, as long as the desciption field is clear that these
``man
I just spent an interesting afternoon trying to upgrade a 1.1 system
to 1.3.
First, /var/lib/dpkg/available was corrupted because of some
incorrect values in the Version - field (somehow they had gotten to
the format of 1:1-2 or similar; bug report submitted). I fixed
these by
Then, there were l
On May 26, 1:36pm, Alexander Koch wrote:
> > But doesn't it belong to /usr/man, if it's in groff format?
>
> Such pearls of wisdom need to be what they're done for... Showing up with
> man...
I wrote it once, but it apparently went into wrong place :^)
We're not talking about the location in fil
On May 26, 8:43am, Pete Templin wrote:
> Let's be careful with 750...many webservers run equivalent to nobody.
It's not only problem with web servers. It's also problem with .plan,
.forward etc. Users will try to do sth., see it not working, ask admin,
and poor admin will have to answer...
751 so
On Sun, 25 May 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sun, 25 May 1997, Christian Schwarz wrote:
>
> > The package is in hamm/non-free/binary-i386/devel . I don't know why Guy
> > put it into "devel".
>
> hmmm. is that the libs that are in devel? I must have been thinking more
> along the lines of
On 26 May 1997, Carey Evans wrote:
> I've removed group write permissions from my home dir because of the
> programs like qmail and ssh which don't like it. I don't think
> anything would break because of removing these permissions, so maybe
> adduser should make home directories mode 755 (or 75
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Fabrizio Polacco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Anyway, the whole feature seems strange to me, because usually man
> hierarchies are at the same level of binary dirs, not under them.
I agree; remove it completely. If it looked in a more sensible place for t
Does anyone use real time Linux and/or a RS-485 bus under Linux?
Michael
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On 26 May 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Oh, I see. Well, this stuff is then like a joke book, in
> manual page format, and I think that humor should still fit in under
> the doc category (If I remember correctly, that is where the
> consensus was to place books like the bible or older book
Philip Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> You can make ssh accept group writable home dirs by changing a line in
> /etc/ssh/sshd_config:
>
> StrictModes yes
>
> needs to be changed to
>
> StrictModes no
Unfortunately this also allows world writable home dirs. Group
writable home dirs ar
Rob Browning wrote:
>Should the default Debian home dir permissions be changed, should
>ssh be modified, or what?
IMHO, group-writable home directories are a Bad Thing (TM), anyway.
They break just about any reasonable multi-user setup by default.
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Bruce Perens wrote:
>
> From: Fabrizio Polacco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Bug#10039 exposed a problem with the "feature" of man to index all
> > the 'man' and 'MAN' subdirectory it finds in the HOME and current
> > directory, when it is invoked.
>
> Is this is consequence of your $MANPATH or is it i
Hi,
Oh, I see. Well, this stuff is then like a joke book, in
manual page format, and I think that humor should still fit in under
the doc category (If I remember correctly, that is where the
consensus was to place books like the bible or older books whose
copyrights have expired)
On May 25, Christian Schwarz wrote
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> Would someone mind if I add the following entry to the list of virtual
> package names?
>
> ups-monitorAnything that is capable of controlling an UPS
tclsh any package providing a tclsh
wishany
You can make ssh accept group writable home dirs by changing a line in
/etc/ssh/sshd_config:
StrictModes yes
needs to be changed to
StrictModes no
I personally prefer to change the home directories to be only writable by
user, but that is because I'm paranoid.
Maybe the install script sh
On May 26, Manoj Srivastava wrote
> Would the doc directory be better for man pages? Why games?
Check out the manpages at http://www.bofh.net/man/:
lart - Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool - use a lart to adjust lusers'
attitudes
sysadmin - responsible for everything imaginable that
Hi,
Would the doc directory be better for man pages? Why games?
manoj
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I am about to create a package (in fact it's ready) with
alt.sysadmin.recovery man pages (things like lart, sysadmin, etc.)
So, first of all I'd like to check if there are no other people working on
it and if the others think this should be put into Debian.
And another question - I'm not sure if my
I seems to recall this might have been discussed before, but I wasn't
sure and couldn't dig up the conversation, so here goes.
I just got around to installing ssh so I could learn about it and
start using it, and I noticed that when I set up one of my machines
with a valid authorized_keys file an
Hi,
>>"Christian" == Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Christian> Perhaps we can make an exception for stupid emacs (yes, I
Christian> use it too :-)
Christian> I just had a look at the article again and it seams as the
Christian> author silently overrides ^H to behave like Backspace
On Sun, 25 May 1997, Christian Schwarz wrote:
> The package is in hamm/non-free/binary-i386/devel . I don't know why Guy
> put it into "devel".
hmmm. is that the libs that are in devel? I must have been thinking more
along the lines of a front end... and xmysql depends on xlib6 or
something li
On May 25, Fabrizio Polacco wrote
> Hi folks!
>
> Bug#10039 exposed a problem with the "feature" of man to index all the
> 'man' and 'MAN' subdirectory it finds in the HOME and current directory,
> when it is invoked.
How about having it just index $HOME/man by default, and adding a switch to
tur
> Huh. I have the opposite problem: The end key doens't work in xterms!
in xterm, or in rxvt? (This is one of the two or three differences
between the rxvt and xterm termcap entries...)
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well, there is a half-baked idea that I've seen go by: in emacs, *if*
the user has done an stty erase ^h (ie. if the ltchars erase entry is ^h)
then treat ^h as backspace, otherwise treat it as help-char...
However, that's not going into debian emacs unless it goes into the
upstream version (19.35
Just a pointer -- CPAN (the Comprehensive Perl Archive Network,
inspired by CTAN [s/Perl/TeX/]) has some tools for monitoring their
mirrors for freshness and accuracy; you can probably find the tools
and reports from any CPAN site or from the perl website... or else ask
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