Re: file descriptors??

1998-01-06 Thread Craig Sanders
On 7 Jan 1998, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Elie Rosenblum wrote: > > > >> And thus spake Craig Sanders, on Wed, Jan 07, 1998 at 01:52:06AM +1100: > >> > is there any debian policy on number of

Re: file descriptors??

1998-01-06 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Elie Rosenblum wrote: > >> And thus spake Craig Sanders, on Wed, Jan 07, 1998 at 01:52:06AM +1100: >> > is there any debian policy on number of file descriptors compiled into the >> > kernel? (and also

Re: Re[2]: cron jobs more often than daily

1998-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 06, 1998 at 04:27:53PM +0100, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: > On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > > Because sometimes the jobs need to run as root. Quite often I suspect. > > My package ipac (which started this) needs to run ipfwadm to configure > > and reset the IP accounting rul

Re: What's Debian's /usr/src policy

1998-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 06, 1998 at 11:42:52AM -0500, Dale Scheetz wrote: > When I try a new kernel and it doesn't work, I only have to edit > lilo.config an run lilo to get back to the old one (actually I always > leave hooks in lilo to get back to the "old" kernel). No package > installation is required. >

Re: What's Debian's /usr/src policy

1998-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 06, 1998 at 04:11:57PM +0100, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: > On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > > I think it does gain something; it is much easier to have multiple > > versions around. If I compile a new 2.1 kernel and find that > > it is not too good (like 2.1.76 seems to have

Re: driver for Epson Stylus 300

1998-01-06 Thread David Frey
On Tue, Jan 6 1998 12:18 +0100 "Meskes, Michael" writes: > I'm not sure about uniprint but the stcolor driver usage in magicfilter > is outdated, i.e. it uses options no longer avalaible in gs-aladin. Sigh. gs-alladin is in non-free, so magicfilter can't use it. David -- David Frey (51F3592311

Re: What's Debian's /usr/src policy

1998-01-06 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale Scheetz) wrote on 06.01.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 6 Jan 1998, Kai Henningsen wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale Scheetz) wrote on 05.01.98 in > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > > > > > I think that /usr/src should the b

Re: cron jobs more often than daily

1998-01-06 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christian Schwarz) wrote on 06.01.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > (b) We set up a certain directory (say /usr/lib/cronjobs) where each > package can install its own crontab file (/usr/lib/cronjobs/foo). Use /etc/cron.often (or similar name). It will contain crontabs, not

Re: What's Debian's /usr/src policy

1998-01-06 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Mitchell) wrote on 06.01.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Mitchell) wrote on 06.01.98 in > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Stephen Zander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > Martin Mitchell <[

Re: please upgrade your packages to current standards

1998-01-06 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale Scheetz) wrote on 06.01.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Richard Braakman wrote: > > > Do we want all packages to include the Section and Priority fields? > > Probably. I tend to do it like this: * don't include them in the first version of the package *

Re: file descriptors??

1998-01-06 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Elie Rosenblum wrote: > And thus spake Craig Sanders, on Wed, Jan 07, 1998 at 01:52:06AM +1100: > > is there any debian policy on number of file descriptors compiled into the > > kernel? (and also in limits.h in libc6-dev - AFAIK pretty much everything > > that uses select()

Re: Webmin .. ?

1998-01-06 Thread bruce
It's OK to package it if you can get the license straight, but I think it makes sense for us to base our system-management strategy on COAS (see http://www.coas.org/) . Bruce -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail

Re: Debian and the millenium bug

1998-01-06 Thread Fabrizio Polacco
On 6 Jan, Kai Henningsen wrote: > > Remember that the last calendar reform was made at an actual difference of > about 10 days (and some countries took a long time after that to implement > it, thus increasing the difference even more), so I'd expect people won't > touch that until the diff

Re: What warrants a non-maintainer release number?

1998-01-06 Thread Fabrizio Polacco
On 6 Jan, Kai Henningsen wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fabrizio Polacco) wrote: > >> On 6 Jan, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: >> > So, the people on debs.fuller should make sure >> > that the version numbers they use will not be taken by 'official' .deb >> > packages. >> >> This sounds nonsense. > > It'

Re: Looking for debcheck

1998-01-06 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: >There are a number of bug reports in the archive that were automatically >generated by a program named "deb-check". Is this program still around? >I would like to look at it. its a tcl script i wrote once. all functionality is also in deblint and debmake

Re: Anyone using dhelp with netscape?

1998-01-06 Thread Marco Budde
Am 05.01.98 schrieb meskes # topsystem.de ... Moin Michael! MM> It seems communicator 4.0 doesn't like it at all. As soon as I click on MM> the debian link netscape gets a bus error. I've found the bug (missing fclose). I'll upload 0.2.2 tomorrow. -- Uni: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fido: 2:240/5202

Re: What's Debian's /usr/src policy

1998-01-06 Thread Rob Browning
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't see why not? Simply take the debian diffs and apply them against > *today's* kernel and you are off and running. The kernel file organization > hasn't changed in ages. (I hope that doesn't mean that someone will change > it simply because it is ol

Re: Webmin .. ?

1998-01-06 Thread Igor Grobman
> Hello, > I ran across something very cool the other day -- Webmin > (http://www.webmin.com/webmin/). It's a web-based system management > tool, which is capable of doing things like cron jobs and DNS administration. > The developer has a version for Debian, and I think it would make a grea

Re: Re^2: uploaded dhelp (i386 source)

1998-01-06 Thread James Troup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Budde) writes: > Am 05.01.98 schrieb leutloff # sundancer.oche.de ... > > > Btw.: Shouldn't we switch the priority for bug to a higher one, > > i.e. standard or essential!? It's a small but very useful program > > that Definitely not essential. It by no means matches th

Re: Anyone using dhelp with netscape?

1998-01-06 Thread Marco Budde
Am 05.01.98 schrieb meskes # topsystem.de ... Moin Michael! MM> It seems communicator 4.0 doesn't like it at all. As soon as I click on MM> the debian link netscape gets a bus error. The index.html files are all in HTML 3.2 that's no problem :). But there's one know bug in dhelp :(. The last c

Re^4: dhelp 0.2 - a online help system

1998-01-06 Thread Marco Budde
Am 05.01.98 schrieb schwarz # monet.m.isar.de ... Moin Christian! CS> > think, we should use this help system in Debian 2.0. Some other CS> > distributions already use such systems (for example SuSE). CS> You should probably not refer to SUSE here. They are know for their quick CS> and _dirty_ so

Re^2: uploaded dhelp (i386 source)

1998-01-06 Thread Marco Budde
Am 05.01.98 schrieb leutloff # sundancer.oche.de ... Moin Christian! CL> >* cgiparse binary (from CERN httpd) CL> isn't it better to use the correct Recommends/Depends flag instead of CL> doubling the binaries. Because most people use the Apache server and I'm not sure if you can install s

Re: What's Debian's /usr/src policy

1998-01-06 Thread Stephen Zander
Martin Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I know, however it would allow people to much more easily install and > maintain their own kernel sources for these includes. Surely if they're clever enough for that, they're clever enough to override a Recommends (not a Suggests) heading. Maybe that

Re: gnuchess & gnuchess-book

1998-01-06 Thread Martin Mitchell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler) writes: > When I use 'dpkg -i gnuchess_* gnuchess-book_*' (ie. in an alternate > sequence) this doesn't happen. > > I found, that this is caused by a divertion in gnuchess-book. > > 1) Should there really be a diversion here? Probably not. I'll take

Re: Anyone working on new rxvt version?

1998-01-06 Thread Brian Mays
Andreas Jellinghaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If these copyright issues are still relevant - you will find the email > of the xvt author about changing the copyright to gpl in the kdebase > copyright file (because kdebase include kvt, and this way xvt code). The new upstream maintainers must

Re: file descriptors??

1998-01-06 Thread Elie Rosenblum
And thus spake Craig Sanders, on Wed, Jan 07, 1998 at 01:52:06AM +1100: > is there any debian policy on number of file descriptors compiled into the > kernel? (and also in limits.h in libc6-dev - AFAIK pretty much everything > that uses select() will need to be recompiled if the limit is increased

Re: Anyone working on new rxvt version?

1998-01-06 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: >rxvt 2.4.5 was announced on New Year's Day. As the current hamm package of >rxvt is still 2.20, it would be great if the new version is available. >There have been many improvements; I notice the difference immediately >when I happen to use 2.20 instead o

dwww Missing-in-action

1998-01-06 Thread Jim Pick
Sorry, For those holding their breath... I had system problems this weekend. I'll have dwww ready next weekend. Cheers, - Jim pgpFTRhdIqcvr.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: What's Debian's /usr/src policy

1998-01-06 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 6 Jan 1998, Rob Browning wrote: > Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I will also never feel comfortable with an automatic process editing my > > lilo.config file. I am set up to boot several linux partitions as well as > > a dos partition and a loop-root system. I am much happier e

Re: Debian and the millenium bug

1998-01-06 Thread Raul Miller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, there is a problem with the Gregorian calendar that has to be > dealt with in 2000 years or so (having to do with leap-millenia), but > I figure if it's more than 100 years it's no problem. I believe that can be handled by making the year 4000 n

Re: driver for Epson Stylus 300

1998-01-06 Thread James A . Treacy
> Yes, I could try that. Can the 600 use color and black ink at the same > time? > yes. It has 2 cartridges: one black and another which has 3 bays. When I print latex documents containing color images the black is black and the colors come out just fine. > Also would you mind sending me your gs

gnuchess & gnuchess-book

1998-01-06 Thread Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler
Hi, just recently I installed gnuchess-book and gnuchess. I used something like 'dpkg -i gnuchess-book_* gnuchess_*'. When the packages were configured I got the message: 'note the disappearence of gnuchess-book, which has been completely replaced'. In fact, there's no sign of gnuchess-book

Re: please upgrade your packages to current standards

1998-01-06 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Richard Braakman wrote: > Do we want all packages to include the Section and Priority fields? Probably. > > If so, then I think it is far more effective to change dpkg's default > behaviour so that it does include these fields, rather than requiring > an explicit flag -isp. >

Re: Anyone working on new rxvt version?

1998-01-06 Thread Brian Mays
Paul Slootman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > rxvt 2.4.5 was announced on New Year's Day. As the current hamm package of > rxvt is still 2.20, it would be great if the new version is available. > There have been many improvements; I notice the difference immediately > when I happen to use 2.20 inst

Re: Question/request concerning master

1998-01-06 Thread Rob Browning
Turbo Fredriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It seem you haven't read ssh's man page propperly... Use 'ssh-agent bash' ( > or whatever shell you are using, tcsh, yuck.. :) then use 'ssh-add' which > will then tell each ssh/scp client your passphrase... Or if you use X, just put: exec ssh-ag

Re: What's Debian's /usr/src policy

1998-01-06 Thread Rob Browning
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I will also never feel comfortable with an automatic process editing my > lilo.config file. I am set up to boot several linux partitions as well as > a dos partition and a loop-root system. I am much happier editing that > beast myself thankyou ;-) Dale,

Looking for debcheck

1998-01-06 Thread Richard Braakman
There are a number of bug reports in the archive that were automatically generated by a program named "deb-check". Is this program still around? I would like to look at it. Thanks, Richard Braakman -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Re: Re[2]: cron jobs more often than daily

1998-01-06 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > Because sometimes the jobs need to run as root. Quite often I suspect. > My package ipac (which started this) needs to run ipfwadm to configure > and reset the IP accounting rules, which requires root. Why not use a daemon? In peal, that would be a ten-

Re: Question/request concerning master

1998-01-06 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
On Tue, 6 Jan 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > As a purely practical point: I dislike having to type my passphrase or > password for every file I'm uploading. Heiko, can dupload be changed to > upload all files with one "scp" when using SSH to upload? It seem you haven't read ssh's man page proppe

Re: What's Debian's /usr/src policy

1998-01-06 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Mon, Jan 05, 1998 at 05:48:27PM -0500, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > I never understood why the kernel source was made into a .deb package. It > > Because it's something we expect people will want to recompile, > so we should make it readily available to t

Re: What's Debian's /usr/src policy

1998-01-06 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 6 Jan 1998, Kai Henningsen wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale Scheetz) wrote on 05.01.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > > > I think that /usr/src should the be domain of the local admin. > > > > > > I don't think kernel-{header,source}-x.xx.deb should

Re: please upgrade your packages to current standards

1998-01-06 Thread Richard Braakman
Sten Anderson wrote: > Now you are at it, I suggest that you also scan the archive for packages > that fails to include a "Section" and/or "Priority" field. It is far > too many, and it is quite annoying. Do we want all packages to include the Section and Priority fields? If so, then I think it

Re: What's Debian's /usr/src policy

1998-01-06 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > I think it does gain something; it is much easier to have multiple > versions around. If I compile a new 2.1 kernel and find that > it is not too good (like 2.1.76 seems to have broken sound > for me so I went back to 2.1.72), I can just reinstall the ol

file descriptors??

1998-01-06 Thread Craig Sanders
is there any debian policy on number of file descriptors compiled into the kernel? (and also in limits.h in libc6-dev - AFAIK pretty much everything that uses select() will need to be recompiled if the limit is increased). some time ago the debian kernels came patched with 1024 fd's. this meant

Re: Question/request concerning master

1998-01-06 Thread Mark W. Eichin
> upload all files with one "scp" when using SSH to upload? Isn't that what ssh-agent is for? You run it, give it the pass phrase, and then dupload forever :-) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Re: What warrants a non-maintainer release number?

1998-01-06 Thread Mark W. Eichin
> should be able to recompile X with a different version number and > *only upload binaries*. What would redoing and uploading the source Yeah, my recent experience with the sparc port confirms this. At this stage, it seems that all of the non-x86 ports have "system changes that aren't usefully

Re: Webmin .. ?

1998-01-06 Thread Tim Sailer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hello, > I ran across something very cool the other day -- Webmin > (http://www.webmin.com/webmin/). It's a web-based system management > tool, which is capable of doing things like cron jobs and DNS administration. > The developer has a version for Debian, and

RE: Anyone working on new lyx version?

1998-01-06 Thread Meskes, Michael
Paul, could you send me your diff file? Since I am the original maintainer I might do a new upload. Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes, Project-Manager| topsystem Systemhaus GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Europark A2, Adenauerstr. 20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 52146 Wuer

Re: Debian and the millenium bug

1998-01-06 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Stone) wrote on 05.01.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Quoting Oliver Elphick (olly@lfix.co.uk): > > Why does glibc2 not use long long (64 bits) for dates, insead of long int > > (32 bits)? Surely we ought to change this now along with all the other > > libc6 changes? > >

Anyone working on new rxvt version?

1998-01-06 Thread Paul Slootman
rxvt 2.4.5 was announced on New Year's Day. As the current hamm package of rxvt is still 2.20, it would be great if the new version is available. There have been many improvements; I notice the difference immediately when I happen to use 2.20 instead of the 2.4.x versions. Paul Slootman -- Can

Re: What's Debian's /usr/src policy

1998-01-06 Thread Martin Mitchell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Mitchell) wrote on 06.01.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Stephen Zander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Martin Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Why does lib

Re: What warrants a non-maintainer release number?

1998-01-06 Thread James Troup
Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >``Whenever the source package is changed WRT to the last uploaded >version, its version number has to be incremented. In addition, >if the source package is not changed but the binary package >changed (because it has been recompiled in

Anyone working on new lyx version?

1998-01-06 Thread Michael Meskes
Did anyone take over lyx? It seems as if we're close the release of a new stable version. Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes, Project-Manager| topsystem Systemhaus GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Europark A2, Adenauerstr. 20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 52146 Wuerselen Go S

Re: cron jobs more often than daily

1998-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 06, 1998 at 11:49:30AM +0100, Christian Schwarz wrote: > I currently see three practical solutions out of the dilemma (that > /etc/crontab is edited by the sysadmin and scripts): > > (b) We set up a certain directory (say /usr/lib/cronjobs) where each > package can install its

Re: Re[2]: cron jobs more often than daily

1998-01-06 Thread Paul Slootman
On Tue 06 Jan 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Tue, Jan 06, 1998 at 10:57:48AM +0100, Paul Slootman wrote: > > Why not require packages that need this level of control over cron jobs > > to register a user, so that a user-specific crontab (in > > /var/spool/cron/crontabs) can be installed, e.g. wi

Re: Question/request concerning master

1998-01-06 Thread James Troup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Heiko, can dupload be changed to upload all files with one "scp" > when using SSH to upload? See #13383. -- James -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Re: What warrants a non-maintainer release number?

1998-01-06 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fabrizio Polacco) wrote on 06.01.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 6 Jan, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: > > > > I think the general opinion was "let the others take care of > > not conflicting with us". So, the people on debs.fuller should make sure > > that the version numbers they us

Re: Debian and the millenium bug

1998-01-06 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05.01.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Well, there is a problem with the Gregorian calendar that has to be dealt > with in 2000 years or so (having to do with leap-millenia), but I figure > if it's more than 100 years it's no problem. That depends on what you call a proble

Re: What's Debian's /usr/src policy

1998-01-06 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale Scheetz) wrote on 05.01.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > I think that /usr/src should the be domain of the local admin. > > > > I don't think kernel-{header,source}-x.xx.deb should exist, really, > > because I don't think source cod

Re: What's Debian's /usr/src policy

1998-01-06 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Mitchell) wrote on 06.01.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Stephen Zander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Martin Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Why does libc6 depend on kernel-header ? > > > > > > It's libc6-dev th

auto-pgp

1998-01-06 Thread Michael Meskes
Is auto-pgp still an active package? Or is it as outdated as it seems to be. That means it is the only package on my machine that still has an AOUT binary. Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes, Project-Manager| topsystem Systemhaus GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Europark A2, Adenauerstr

Re: cron jobs more often than daily

1998-01-06 Thread Christian Schwarz
I currently see three practical solutions out of the dilemma (that /etc/crontab is edited by the sysadmin and scripts): (a) We set up another crontab (say /etc/crontab.deb) which is maintained by install-cronjob only. The current /etc/crontab will stay a conffile and only be touche

Re: What warrants a non-maintainer release number?

1998-01-06 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Christian Schwarz wrote: > > > However, the `non-maintainer' part of this discussion is totally > > unimportant. What matters is the question `in which cases has the version > > number to be incremented and in which cases can it be

RE: driver for Epson Stylus 300

1998-01-06 Thread Meskes, Michael
Yes, I could try that. Can the 600 use color and black ink at the same time? Also would you mind sending me your gs setup? I'm not sure about uniprint but the stcolor driver usage in magicfilter is outdated, i.e. it uses options no longer avalaible in gs-aladin. Or is that no problem with uniprint

Re: How to upload to nonus.debian.org?

1998-01-06 Thread Sven Rudolph
Juan Cespedes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I want to upload some packages to nonus, but I don't know how. > What's the correct way to do it? > > I've tried anonymous FTP to nonus.debian.org, but I cannot > upload files to any dir... /pub/debian-non-US/Incoming Sven -- Sven

Re: [Fwd: Bug#16660: metro-motif-aout: depends on xcompat which is in project/orphaned]

1998-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 06, 1998 at 09:11:12PM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Package: metro-motif-aout > > Depends on xcompat which does not exist? > > metro-motif-aout is an installer only and it does requires the x11 aout > libs from xcompat. > > I think I can't do anything

Re: Re[2]: cron jobs more often than daily

1998-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 06, 1998 at 10:57:48AM +0100, Paul Slootman wrote: > Why not require packages that need this level of control over cron jobs > to register a user, so that a user-specific crontab (in > /var/spool/cron/crontabs) can be installed, e.g. with "crontab -u > package file" ? Because sometimes

Re: Question/request concerning master

1998-01-06 Thread jdassen
On Mon, Jan 05, 1998 at 11:33:25PM +0200, Amos Shapira wrote: > I might be missing something here, but after being beaten by crackers who > simply put a password sniffer on one of my Debian machines, I'd strongly > recommand the Debian leaders to reconsider the policy of plain ftp and > telnet. In

[Fwd: Bug#16660: metro-motif-aout: depends on xcompat which is in project/orphaned]

1998-01-06 Thread ychim
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Package: metro-motif-aout > > Depends on xcompat which does not exist? metro-motif-aout is an installer only and it does requires the x11 aout libs from xcompat. I think I can't do anything. -- Lawrence--- Begin Message --- Package: metro-motif-aout Depends on xc

Re: Re[2]: cron jobs more often than daily

1998-01-06 Thread Paul Slootman
On Tue 06 Jan 1998, Adam Heath wrote: > > Have a directory, /etc/debian.crontab/, that holds a file for every package > that > wants to be run by cron. Modify /etc/cron.tab(in the master version), to > have a > line that runs /etc/init.d/debian.cron. Have a script, update-debian-crontab, > tha

Re: What's Debian's /usr/src policy

1998-01-06 Thread Joel Klecker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Regarding "Re: What's Debian's /usr/src policy" of 8:09 PM -0800 1/5/98, Hamish Moffatt wrote: >On Mon, Jan 05, 1998 at 11:54:14AM -0800, Stephen Zander wrote: >> Martin Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > > Why

Re: Re[2]: cron jobs more often than daily

1998-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 06, 1998 at 02:51:52AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > /etc/init.d/debian.cron to run the package that would next need to be. > Everytime that /etc/init.d/debian.cron is run, it checks to see when the next > package is to be run, and updates itself, and /etc/cron.tab. > > Does anyone unders

Webmin .. ?

1998-01-06 Thread pb
Hello, I ran across something very cool the other day -- Webmin (http://www.webmin.com/webmin/). It's a web-based system management tool, which is capable of doing things like cron jobs and DNS administration. The developer has a version for Debian, and I think it would make a great additi

Re[2]: cron jobs more often than daily

1998-01-06 Thread Adam Heath
| On Tuesday, 6 January 98, at 2:28:26 AM | Joey wrote about "cron jobs more often than daily" > Steve Greenland wrote: >> Disadvantages: Limited control by packages over granularity, offset, and >> user. (I'm not convinced that this is a real showstopper: if the package >> *really* requires that f

Re: cron jobs more often than daily

1998-01-06 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Greenland wrote: > Disadvantages: Limited control by packages over granularity, offset, and > user. (I'm not convinced that this is a real showstopper: if the package > *really* requires that fine of control, it probably needs a custom user > anyway.) Another disadvantage is that this would

Re: boot-floppies progress

1998-01-06 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Bruce" == Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bruce> I just finished patching "newt" so that "whiptail" works as Bruce> a complete replacement for "dialog", using s-lang instead Bruce> of ncurses. I had to hack "modconf" slightly (because it Bruce> used leading "-" in m

boot-floppies progress

1998-01-06 Thread Bruce Perens
I just finished patching "newt" so that "whiptail" works as a complete replacement for "dialog", using s-lang instead of ncurses. I had to hack "modconf" slightly (because it used leading "-" in menus, and that won't parse), but it now works with "whiptail". We now have all of the boot-floppy compo

Re: cron jobs more often than daily

1998-01-06 Thread Rob Browning
Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I agree that there seems to be a need for general solution. There are > two general approaches: This might be completely off base, but what about a (hopefully small) hack to cron for debian systems that makes it concatenate /etc/cron.debian/* with /et

Re: What's Debian's /usr/src policy

1998-01-06 Thread Martin Mitchell
Stephen Zander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Martin Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Why does libc6 depend on kernel-header ? > > > > It's libc6-dev that has that dependency. > > Perhaps weakening the dependency to Suggests might be the best s

Re: What's Debian's /usr/src policy

1998-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Jan 05, 1998 at 11:54:14AM -0800, Stephen Zander wrote: > Martin Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Why does libc6 depend on kernel-header ? > > > > It's libc6-dev that has that dependency. > > Perhaps weakening the dependency to Suggests

Re: What's Debian's /usr/src policy

1998-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Jan 05, 1998 at 05:48:27PM -0500, Dale Scheetz wrote: > I never understood why the kernel source was made into a .deb package. It Because it's something we expect people will want to recompile, so we should make it readily available to them. > doesn't make sense to me. I also don't see an

Re: cron jobs more often than daily

1998-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Jan 05, 1998 at 09:45:39PM +0100, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > What about a kind of tag-oriented style of appending to /etc/crontab after > asking the admin: > > ipac-install suggest to append an entry to /etc/crontab, which starts ipac > every 15 minutes: > > [line to be inserted] > > Th

Re: cron jobs more often than daily

1998-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Jan 05, 1998 at 09:12:23AM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: > On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > : Packages may not touch the configuration file `/etc/crontab', nor may > : they modify the files in `/var/spool/cron/crontabs'. > : > : Doesn't this rule this out? > > The mrt

Re: please upgrade your packages to current standards

1998-01-06 Thread Sten Anderson
Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yesterday, I wrote a script that scans our whole archive for .dsc files > (Debian source package description files) and outputs some statistics > regarding the `Standards-Version' fields, that is, which policy version > the packages "claim" to comply

Re: cron jobs more often than daily

1998-01-06 Thread Lindsay Allen
On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Christian Schwarz wrote: > Fact is, that the "cron" package, the local sysadmin, and possibly other > packages modify the /etc/crontab file. However, dpkg only controls > modification between the sysadmin and _one_ package ("cron" here). I > really think the cron package shoul

Re: cron jobs more often than daily

1998-01-06 Thread Steve Greenland
Kai is absolutely correct in his justification of the policy: > Umm. There's a good reason for not automatically modifying conffiles, > ever: "... was modified by you or by a script ..." > > The general rule, AFAIR, is for a file to _either_ be a conffile, or > _completely_ handled by scripts

Re: Debian and the millenium bug

1998-01-06 Thread James A . Treacy
> > Where did you get this 4000 years figure anyway? 33 bits would just > > Oh, having become hopelessly confused by the original posting, I came > up with some additional errors (the 16x10^18 is just as wrong, too; > 584,942,417,355 is more like it...) Comes of posting to debian lists > in my s

Re: How to upload to nonus.debian.org?

1998-01-06 Thread Martin Schulze
On Tue, Jan 06, 1998 at 01:23:34AM +0100, Juan Cespedes wrote: > I want to upload some packages to nonus, but I don't know how. > What's the correct way to do it? > > I've tried anonymous FTP to nonus.debian.org, but I cannot > upload files to any dir... Why not try debian-incoming?

Re: libc6 based gpc

1998-01-06 Thread Christoph Lameter
No. Someone else will probably do so. I am not using pascal at all right now. On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Paolo M. Pumilia wrote: > Hi Christoph Lameter, > I am switching my linux system to hamm. > Since gcc upgraded to 2.7.2.3, it seems i cannot use > my old gpc compiler any more. Do you plan to packag

Re: Debian and the millenium bug

1998-01-06 Thread Mark W. Eichin
> Where did you get this 4000 years figure anyway? 33 bits would just Oh, having become hopelessly confused by the original posting, I came up with some additional errors (the 16x10^18 is just as wrong, too; 584,942,417,355 is more like it...) Comes of posting to debian lists in my sleep :-) -

Re: What warrants a non-maintainer release number?

1998-01-06 Thread Fabrizio Polacco
On 6 Jan, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: > > I think the general opinion was "let the others take care of > not conflicting with us". So, the people on debs.fuller should make sure > that the version numbers they use will not be taken by 'official' .deb > packages. This sounds nonsense. People at deb.s

Re: What's Debian's /usr/src policy

1998-01-06 Thread Vincent Renardias
On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: > On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Fabrizio Polacco wrote: > > > On 5 Jan, Christian Schwarz wrote: > > > On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > > > >> I think that /usr/src should the be domain of the local admin. > > > > > > > I disagree. > > /usr/local/

Re: What's Debian's /usr/src policy

1998-01-06 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Fabrizio Polacco wrote: > On 5 Jan, Christian Schwarz wrote: > > On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > >> I think that /usr/src should the be domain of the local admin. > > > > I disagree. > /usr/local/src is for local admin. Indeed. In general: - /usr/local is for

Re: What's Debian's /usr/src policy

1998-01-06 Thread Fabrizio Polacco
On 5 Jan, Christian Schwarz wrote: > On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Ian Jackson wrote: > >> I think that /usr/src should the be domain of the local admin. > I disagree. /usr/local/src is for local admin. >> This may be the case if you look at all packages, but I have never >> installed any packages that

Re: What warrants a non-maintainer release number?

1998-01-06 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > For Deity at least is it VERY important that the version number of > packages be exactly associated with the .deb file, there must never be two > .debs with the same version that are not exactly the same. As soon as that > happens it is no longer possib

Re: Screen-refresh in vi

1998-01-06 Thread bruce
VI? You mean "elvis", "vim", or "nvi"? Elvis seems to be somewhat flakey on hamm. Bruce -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Re: What warrants a non-maintainer release number?

1998-01-06 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Christian Schwarz wrote: > However, the `non-maintainer' part of this discussion is totally > unimportant. What matters is the question `in which cases has the version > number to be incremented and in which cases can it be left'? > > I think we all agree now that the version

Re: Debian and the millenium bug

1998-01-06 Thread bruce
> Why does glibc2 not use long long (64 bits) for dates, insead of long int > (32 bits)? Surely we ought to change this now along with all the other > libc6 changes? We have to get POSIX to bless it first. We have 40 years to do it, relax. Bruce -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST

Re: Debian and the millenium bug

1998-01-06 Thread bruce
Remember Emerson: "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds." Bruce -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

How to upload to nonus.debian.org?

1998-01-06 Thread Juan Cespedes
I want to upload some packages to nonus, but I don't know how. What's the correct way to do it? I've tried anonymous FTP to nonus.debian.org, but I cannot upload files to any dir... Thanks. -- Juan Cespedes -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "uns

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