On Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 02:58:39PM +0300, Amos Shapira wrote:
On Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 01:01:46AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
However, you can give the compiler a hint that a function does not throw any
exceptions by adding throw() at the right place:
class ABC {
ABC (int theInt)
I'm looking into packaging CMU's coda distributed filesystem. It is based on
AFS, with enhancements to allow disconnected use. There are kernel drivers for
it in the 2.1.x series and they are available as patches for the 2.0.x series.
Seeing that there are other kernel module packages available
On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
Exception handling is a powerful feature, and makes other global error
strategies mostly unnecessary. Therefore the size of compiled and well
written C++ programs will not be larger than an equivalent C program. *And*
the source code will be much
On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Adam Heath wrote:
There are also other packages that have dependencies on essential packages.
It was my understanding that this doesn't have to be done.
There is meaning for depending on specific versions of essential packages
because the package may require some new
On Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 05:15:59PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
Exception handling is a powerful feature, and makes other global error
strategies mostly unnecessary. Therefore the size of compiled and well
written C++ programs will not be
I am running a pretty much up to date hamm system with egcs g++, etc.
Compiling the most recent snapshot of xtide2 (found at
http://www.universe.digex.net/~dave/files) resulted in the following errors.
The author of the program instantly revised the source file. I am attaching
his comments.
Just played in AZ, US.
I had to listen to 50 minutes of crap about presidents and big
companies ! They should have put Linux first.
Stallman may be a bit of a crank, but I'd be upset too about GNU
being downplayed out of existence.
John Lapeyre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I added one line to the tcsh code, which seems to fix the infinite
loop problem. I sent the patch to the author and the Debian maintainer 24
hrs. ago. I expect to hear something over the next few days.
Perhaps the author will make a better fix.
If someone can't wait that long,
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Raul Miller wrote:
Then we should be talking about /etc/skel/, rather than /etc/profile
Well, if we talk about /etc/skel, then we could ask:
Is there any other shell which reads .bash_profile?
No, only bash does.
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G John Lapeyre wrote:
Just played in AZ, US.
I had to listen to 50 minutes of crap about presidents and big
companies ! They should have put Linux first.
Stallman may be a bit of a crank, but I'd be upset too about GNU
being downplayed out of existence.
They put Linux
Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the broken grep (I think it is filed as a Bug already) will do a lot of
damage to your system. It will kill your Windowmanger -list if you install a
Windowmanager, and it will make the /etc/X11/config not work
(user-xsession).
There are a bunch of bug
On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Anders Hammarquist wrote:
I'm looking into packaging CMU's coda distributed filesystem. It is based on
AFS, with enhancements to allow disconnected use. There are kernel drivers
for
it in the 2.1.x series and they are available as patches for the 2.0.x series.
Seeing
Anyone care to comment?
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Has anyone assesed the impact of the bind exploit announced by CERT today.
I'm using bind_4.9.6-1.deb, so would be curious as to where I stood, what
the fixes were.
Thanks
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However, I'm willing to set default root's prompt in base-files to
'\h:\w\$ ' if enough people prefer it to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ '.
What do others think about this?
PS1='\h:\w\$ '
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James R. Van Zandt writes:
( ) minimal 40 MB
( ) router/firewall 70 MB
( ) server (ftp, nfs, smb, and http servers) 90 MB
( ) workstation (all the
However, I don't think this one is 'important'. I'd say the
distribution is better off with lftp than without, even if it has
this bug.
It works perfectly. Try lftp! The best FTP client program...!
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In this case, if somebody has the knowledge to build their own 2.1 kernel
(since one didn't come on the CD), then they have the knowledge necessary
to get packages from unstable.
It's very unpleasant to have to download things whn you have just bought a
CD. And many users are forced to use
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] Raul Miller wrote:
I think this is so bad that every binary copy of grep 2.1-7 should be
deleted from every archive as soon as possible.
Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You mean 2.1-6?
Oops. yes.
I'd hand-patched my system and hadn't noticed that the thing
Anders Hammarquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This file contains some code identical to or derived from the 1986
version of the Andrew File System (AFS), which is owned by the IBM
Corporation.This code is provded AS IS and IBM does not warrant
that it is free of infringement of any
Here are three package selections to start things off. They are based
on the package priorities: The first includes only base, the second
adds important, and the third adds standard. The only real oddity
is that gcc and cpp are among base. Is this only because dpkg needs
it, to get the current
While I agree with the merrits of your previous arguments, I don't see
what this has to do with the constitution. The secretary has powers
which allow the secretary to execute that office.
As long as section 4.2.5 is not violated then you are quite right.
I was simply over-reacting to the
I have seen this problem before with some overeager Configure scripts.
Guy
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On 8 Apr 1998, Stephen Zander wrote:
Anyone care to comment?
the announcement doesn't mention any change to the Qt license, just the
formation of a Qt foundation.
if this results in a new Qt license which meets the DFSG (specifically
the items regarding modifying source and non-discrimination)
On Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 08:50:56PM +0100, Enrique Zanardi wrote:
On Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 08:23:48PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
Can someone hack dinstall to install packages which are not PGP signed
but has been copied to incoming? If the UID of the files is the one of a
developer we can
No, it still mens that QT is under a restrictive license. It does mean
however that one of the biggest worries with QT has gone away. Troll
can NEVER charge for QT free now. EVER. And if anything happens to
Troll, QT becomes BSD licensed -- AT THAT POINT IN TIME. But not yet.
Not now. QT
On Apr 08, Jeff Noxon decided to present us with:
Anyone have a digitized copy of this? :)
I read at slashdot that the company that recorded the program
(sorry for forgetting the name, I'm not in US) will put it
online tomorrow, likely as RA.
[]s,
[I have tons on old mail to read, but it seems something's going on here ;-)]
On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
This is a partial list of http enabled mirrors, I did the US and UK.
There are 13 sites listed here. If someone would like to go through the
rest of the mirror list then
Why isn't /var/run set like /tmp? Shouldn't user-run programs be
able to write a pid file there?
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On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote:
Well, this is what I use it for myself. I use PS1='\h:\w\$ ' for an
ordinary user and PS1='[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ ' for root. Rationale: I'm root
only
in my machine (as most Debian users, I think) and therefore when I'm
sanvila I am not
Alex Romosan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
go to http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/archives/1998/current.html and
listen to it.
OK, is there any easy way to download a copy of it? I could only get
the proxy files, but I'm probably overlooking something obvious.
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On Apr 08, Vincent Renardias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Definatly not an option, since people uploading anonymously to chiark
would be able to upload whatever in the distribution since the files
arrive in Incoming/ with IanJ's UID (also hold for other upload queues).
We could maintain a list of
Attached is the COPYING file from `scsh-0.5.1'. May this program go
into main? That would be wonderful. I would like to package
`guile-scsh' as well. It bears the similar licence.
COPYING
Description: Binary data
On Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 11:06:44AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
Riku Voipio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The point is new users.
Then we should be talking about /etc/skel/, rather than /etc/profile
The policy is to keep /etc/skel minimal, to avoid unecessary bloat of
/home structure... keep in
Hi,
Marco == Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Marco On Apr 08, Vincent Renardias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyway, I fail to see WHY we should allow non PGP signed packages.
Marco Because it's not easy to sign .dsc and .changes files via a ssh
Marco pipe when compiling packages on va. This
Hi,
I've set up a merged us/non-us site, on debian.hands.com, which should be
accessible thus:
# [EMAIL PROTECTED]
deb http://debian.hands.com/debian/ stable main contrib non-free non-us
deb http://debian.hands.com/debian/ frozen main contrib non-free non-us
deb http://debian.hands.com/debian/
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
This is a partial list of http enabled mirrors, I did the US and UK.
There are 13 sites listed here. If someone would like to go through the
rest of the mirror list then please do :
deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
make it to FAQ, but i can't possibly understand what damage is done if the
default prompt is changed to PS1=\w\$ .
Like that it won't work for anyone who uses a Bourne shell other than bash?
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
Why isn't /var/run set like /tmp? Shouldn't user-run programs be
able to write a pid file there?
No, you don't want users to stop certain daemons from running by putting pid
files in there (sure this isn't likely but it is possible).
If you want to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) writes:
Attached is the COPYING file from `scsh-0.5.1'. May this program go
into main?
As already stated by myself and others: no.
That would be wonderful. I would like to package `guile-scsh' as
well. It bears the similar licence.
It bears the
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
On 9 Apr 1998, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
Attached is the COPYING file from `scsh-0.5.1'.
Use of this program for commercial purposes is also permitted, but
only if, in addition to the acknowledgement required for
non-commercial users, written notification
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
On 8 Apr 1998, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
Why isn't /var/run set like /tmp? Shouldn't user-run programs be
able to write a pid file there?
I don't think so. According to the FSSTND:
5.10 /var/run : Run-time variable files
This directory contains system
Can someone hack dinstall to install packages which are not PGP
signed but has been copied to incoming? If the UID of the files is
the one of a developer we can know who did upload the package.
No, because the upload queues also use known UIDs, but may allow
everyone to upload. (BTW, the
On Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 07:29:00PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
This is a partial list of http enabled mirrors, I did the US and UK.
There are 13 sites listed here. If someone would like to go through the
rest of the mirror list then please do :
deb
I'm on vacation from tomorrow till 04/20, so if something serious
should be with my packages, feel free to make non-maintainer uploads.
Roman
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Riku Voipio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The policy is to keep /etc/skel minimal, to avoid unecessary bloat of
/home structure... keep in mind that many ISP's have thousands of users.
(1) If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right.
(2) /etc/skel/ already has a .bashrc and a .bash_profile.
(3)
On Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 07:30:23PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wrote:
make it to FAQ, but i can't possibly understand what damage is done if the
default prompt is changed to PS1=\w\$ .
Like that it won't work for anyone who uses a Bourne shell other than bash?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
#12443: debmake: uupdate should support pristine sources
I have never used uupdate, so if anyone volunteers, I will accept patches.
Since most tarballs uncompress now into a single directory, it would
ok if uupdate is changed so that it support *only* pristine
In this case, if somebody has the knowledge to build their own 2.1 kernel
(since one didn't come on the CD), then they have the knowledge necessary
to get packages from unstable.
It's very unpleasant to have to download things whn you have just bought a
CD. And many users are forced to
On Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 08:36:33AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
Riku Voipio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The policy is to keep /etc/skel minimal, to avoid unecessary bloat of
/home structure... keep in mind that many ISP's have thousands of users.
(3) Administrators, even administrators with
Henry Hollenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone assesed the impact of the bind exploit announced by CERT
today.
I'm using bind_4.9.6-1.deb, so would be curious as to where I stood,
what the fixes were.
Thanks
Henry Hollenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ya know what sucks?
I
I'm away for six days.
See you later...
Joop
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I think it's clear the intent is to say that CMU is legally distributing AFS.
the terms under which CMU is distributing it are as stated above and are DFSG
compliant. I think that's all we're concerned with: the terms under which our
users can use, modify, and distribute the software.
So
On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Jeff Noxon wrote:
: Anyone have a digitized copy of this? :)
:
: Thanks,
http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/980408.atc.14.ram
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On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Brian White wrote:
In this case, if somebody has the knowledge to build their own 2.1 kernel
(since one didn't come on the CD), then they have the knowledge necessary
to get packages from unstable.
It's very unpleasant to have to download things whn you have
They work if you're using a 2.1.x kernel. Since plenty of people can be
expected to get Debian on multi-CD sets which include kernel sources, I
still believe we should ship them.
Also, what happens when Linus finally puts out the 2.2.0 kernel? I don't
think we're going to be making a
On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Brian White wrote:
They work if you're using a 2.1.x kernel. Since plenty of people can be
expected to get Debian on multi-CD sets which include kernel sources, I
still believe we should ship them.
Also, what happens when Linus finally puts out the 2.2.0 kernel? I
They work if you're using a 2.1.x kernel. Since plenty of people can be
expected to get Debian on multi-CD sets which include kernel sources, I
still believe we should ship them.
Also, what happens when Linus finally puts out the 2.2.0 kernel? I don't
think we're going to be
Adam P. Harris wrote:
Well, guys, I'm digging into doc-base. Right now I'm focused on
fixing bugs for the freeze. There seems to be a few areas for
interaction between dhelp and doc-base which are tricky to replicate;
and hence, tricky to fix. Thankfully, the code is very small and
If
On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Brian White wrote:
What if THEY GOT IT OFF A CD, NOT THE NET? Yes, there are people that are
going to buy CD distributions that include kernel sources, and these
distributions will include 2.1.x and 2.2 when it's released. WHAT DO WE
LOSE by putting support for them
What if THEY GOT IT OFF A CD, NOT THE NET? Yes, there are people that are
going to buy CD distributions that include kernel sources, and these
distributions will include 2.1.x and 2.2 when it's released. WHAT DO WE
LOSE by putting support for them in hamm?
I think that if
Riku Voipio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, but remeber that changes in /etc/skel affect only users that
are added in the system _after_ the change. Exeisting users will
still have old files. I still wonder, what it helps to put global
configuration in user-specific files.
Then you're saying
Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I understand this and it is a good point. My concern is with people
who are trying to install Debian and the difficulties they encounter.
There have been several posts lately from experienced people who tried
to install Debian and had it blow up in their
I have made a list of overlaps between packages in hamm and packages
in bo, and tried to filter out the ones that are not problematic.
(For example, because they use diversions).
My scripts for this are not always accurate, they're a bit old and
creaky. Unfortunately, there are too many
I understand this and it is a good point. My concern is with people
who are trying to install Debian and the difficulties they encounter.
There have been several posts lately from experienced people who tried
to install Debian and had it blow up in their faces. Such happenings
can
Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How many of these people had problems from properly built packages?
All of them. It was that the packages didn't work in certain situations.
Were these Extra packages?
What about people who need such support now (before the cd is released).
Get it
How many of these people had problems from properly built packages?
All of them. It was that the packages didn't work in certain situations.
Were these Extra packages?
One was X. I don't recall off hand what the other problems were.
What about people who need such support now
In this case, if somebody has the knowledge to build their own 2.1 kernel
(since one didn't come on the CD), then they have the knowledge necessary
to get packages from unstable.
It's very unpleasant to have to download things whn you have just bought a
CD. And many users are
Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The subject in question is whether to include these packages in stable.
unstable will include them for sure.
I think they are appropriate for stable provided they are classifed
as Extra. That is what the Extra priority is for, after all.
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On Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 06:04:31PM +0200, Richard Braakman wrote:
I have made a list of overlaps between packages in hamm and packages
in bo, and tried to filter out the ones that are not problematic.
(For example, because they use diversions).
Please, when you do this kind of surveys,
James R. Van Zandt writes:
I guess you don't count the router/firewall as being part of all
the above. I'd suggest it would be put below standard (in a
specific setups section ?), as it is confusing as such.
Actually I did think that the router/firewall packages would be a
subset of
The newest rvplayer in hamm will not install because it provides
'netscape' and some other package does too. What is happening here? I
did not install the netscape deb package.
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Craig == Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Craig if this results in a new Qt license which meets the DFSG
Craig (specifically the items regarding modifying source and
Craig non-discrimination) then both KDE and Qt can go into debian
Craig main. i hope that this is what will
On Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 11:42:30AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
Riku Voipio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, but remeber that changes in /etc/skel affect only users that
are added in the system _after_ the change. Exeisting users will
still have old files. I still wonder, what it helps to put
On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Philip Hands wrote:
I thought it might be worth having a non-us site merge the files, so that
mirrors outside the US could easily include the non-us software just by
mirroring from me.
Yes, this was supposed to have been done long ago. I don't know who is
responsible to
Riku Voipio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, but remeber that changes in /etc/skel affect only users that
are added in the system _after_ the change. Exeisting users will
still have old files. I still wonder, what it helps to put global
configuration in user-specific files.
On Thu, Apr
Will Debian 2.0 (and on) retain the ability to install from a small
core system off of floppies? I sincerely hope so. Believe it or not,
there are a lot of computers out there where floppies are still the
easiest way to install things. Old laptops, for example. Debian 1.3's
install
There's some Emacs Lisp that I neglected to package with `scsh'. I
would like to know how to go about having dpkg install it. What is
the procedure? Where do I stow it, and how do I register it with
both emacsen?
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On Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 01:22:55PM -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
There's some Emacs Lisp that I neglected to package with `scsh'. I
would like to know how to go about having dpkg install it. What is
the procedure? Where do I stow it, and how do I register it with
both emacsen?
I think
Hi,
Riku == Riku Voipio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Riku Ofcourse the right thing to do is a /etc/profile.d
Riku directory.
I think the right thing to do is to leave the default prompts
alone, and teach people how to set up prompts. There is no way you
can cater to all tastes and all
Brian, here in Germany, every Megabyte you have to download is costing real
money. A lot of money. Please put as much on the CD as possible. Declare it
extra, put it in an unstable dir, put warnings all over the place, but
please include it.
We already exclude non-free comlpetely for good
Hello,
We have a ton of older PS/2 MCA machines around here, many with ESDI
disks, others with the IBM SCSI HBA. Neither ESDI nor the IBM HBA are
supported by the current rescue disks.
So, in a not quite right state of mind, I decided I would make some boot
floppies so that my coworkers, and
On Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 05:27:14PM -0400, Brian White wrote:
Brian, here in Germany, every Megabyte you have to download is costing real
money. A lot of money. Please put as much on the CD as possible. Declare it
extra, put it in an unstable dir, put warnings all over the place, but
please
Sorry but from upgrading to xemacs20 make AUC-TeX not seems to work well
in xemacs, especially the key bindings and no menu.
Here's an extract from my .emacs file, I only put the relevant part.
;;
;; AUC-TeX settings ;;
;;
(setq TeX-auto-save t)
(setq
On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote:
We have a ton of older PS/2 MCA machines around here, many with ESDI
disks, others with the IBM SCSI HBA. Neither ESDI nor the IBM HBA are
supported by the current rescue disks.
The lastest boot disks from Debian 1.3 work just fine; I've used them
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