Re: Non-maintainer release of info-3.12

1998-04-17 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
Dirk> I just made a non-maintainer release of info_3.12-1 as Octave now Dirk> needs a version of info that is greater or equal to 3.11. [1] James> You called it 3.12-1.0 but it should be 3.12-0.1. Also you'll need James> to ensure (-sa to dpkg-buildpackage) that the .orig.tar.gz is Ja

qpopper 2.2

1998-04-17 Thread David Ty Lee
Hi, I am trying to build qpopper2.2 on a Debian linux system. I uses /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow. For some reason, I am keep getting 'password is incorrect' message. Thank you in advance. Regards, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscri

Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?

1998-04-17 Thread Frederic Peters
Hi. Brian Mays wrote : > This will pop up two buttons in the lower left corner of your screen. The > "Halt" button will shut down your system, while the "Reboot" button will > reboot (useful if you also have Windows 95 *yuck* on your computer). So, going back to the initial message about a cool

Re: Aiding the constitutional procedure [was Re: Automation of the constitutional procedure]

1998-04-17 Thread James A . Treacy
Ian Jackson wrote: > Section 4.2(5) is violated only if the Secretary requires developers > to propose motions &c by mailing their bot in a special format, rather > than by posting a normal message to debian-devel (or whatever other > list we end up using). > > The Secretary can of course maintain

Re: Test Report (was: Re: boot-floppies_2.0.4 (source i386) uploaded)

1998-04-17 Thread David Frey
On Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:15:19 -0400 Raul Miller wrote: > Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I did hear something about /etc/envronment, but I'm not sure what > > purpose it has and if it works for all shells, etc. [...] > In my opinion, /etc/environment should be supported by init (wit

Re: Making the libc5-libc6 upgrade to be safe (was: netstd...)

1998-04-17 Thread Peter Tobias
On Apr 16, Santiago Vila wrote: > Summary: In a bo system, I managed to upgrade netstd without installing > libreadlineg2 first and the simple ftp client stopped working. This is a > really bad situation I really do not desire to anybody. > > This should not have happened if netstd would have a Pr

Re: elvis package

1998-04-17 Thread Martin Schulze
On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 08:51:57PM +0100, James Troup wrote: > Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It's free as it seems from the first view. The second view tells > > you it's non-free, unfortunately. > > > > Nevertheless I'm packaging it right now. > > You ask Martin not to work

Re: Uploaded timidity-patches 0.1-3 (source all) to master

1998-04-17 Thread Riku Voipio
On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 03:00:13AM +1000, Martin Mitchell wrote: > Riku Voipio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Source: timidity-patches > > Uhh... Is the copyright surely clear? I remember that 4-front tech was > > nearly sued for distributing stuff only mentioned for GUS ownners... > >From t

Re: elvis package

1998-04-17 Thread James Troup
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's free as it seems from the first view. The second view tells > you it's non-free, unfortunately. > > Nevertheless I'm packaging it right now. You ask Martin not to work on elvis because it's non-free but then announce you're working on the non-fr

Re: elvis package

1998-04-17 Thread Martin Schulze
On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 09:38:01AM -0700, David Welton wrote: > On Sat, Apr 18, 1998 at 02:13:52AM +1000, Martin Mitchell wrote: > > > > We have about 4 or 5 other vi clones so there is no need for > > > re-packaging it. If you don't need it I'd appreciate you work > > > on better packages. > >

Re: elvis package

1998-04-17 Thread Martin Schulze
On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 02:13:01PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 09:11:41AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > > This fails #3 and #7 of the DFSG. (Bug#14953 from 16 Nov 1997) > > Ho hum.. the web server is still down. Unfortunately

Re: Dumping core: root vs. normal user

1998-04-17 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Thu, Apr 16, 1998 at 02:54:45AM -0700, Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote: > Eloy A. Paris, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote: > >an easy one: why when root runs a program that faults core is not > >dumped but when a normal user runs the same program a core is dumped? > > My educated gue

Re: manpages missing NAME section

1998-04-17 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 03:15:57PM -0500, Zed Pobre wrote: > On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Adrian Bridgett wrote: > > >These are pages that have a bad NAME section. You can do > > > > apropos -r \* | grep \(unknown\) > > apropos -r \* returns nothing on my system. I can man xexec > (which is in one

Re: My packages are not in frozen -- why?

1998-04-17 Thread Martin Schulze
On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 02:50:14PM -0400, Shaleh wrote: > Is this not sufficient: > > Distribution: frozen unstable > Changes: > gdk-imlib (1.1-6) frozen unstable; urgency=low > . >* Fixed the symlinks to lib.so.x -- was done in the wrong package > The same is (or was) in my imlib packag

Re: My packages are not in frozen -- why?

1998-04-17 Thread Shaleh
Is this not sufficient: Distribution: frozen unstable Changes: gdk-imlib (1.1-6) frozen unstable; urgency=low . * Fixed the symlinks to lib.so.x -- was done in the wrong package The same is (or was) in my imlib package. -- --- How can you see,

/etc/passwd : which software does support this ?

1998-04-17 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
The comment field is used by various system utilities, such as finger(1). Three additional values may be present in the comment field. They are pri= - set initial value of nice umask= - set initial value of umask ulimit= - set initia

[sara@ora.com: NPR show on open source]

1998-04-17 Thread Martin Schulze
Did you see that? - Forwarded message from Sara Winge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: "Sara Winge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:16:43 -0700 Subject: NPR show on open source Eric Raymond and Richard Stallman are guests on NPR's "Science Friday" today--looks like the segm

Re: My packages are not in frozen -- why?

1998-04-17 Thread Martin Schulze
On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 02:05:49PM -0400, Shaleh wrote: > My imlib and gdk_imlib packages are being put in slink instead of > frozen. The ones in frozen presently are out of date and frankly -- I > screwed them up. Please put my new packages in frozen. In the > changelog I have "frozen unstable"

Re: elvis package

1998-04-17 Thread Raul Miller
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 09:11:41AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > This fails #3 and #7 of the DFSG. (Bug#14953 from 16 Nov 1997) Ho hum.. the web server is still down. -- Raul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscrib

My packages are not in frozen -- why?

1998-04-17 Thread Shaleh
My imlib and gdk_imlib packages are being put in slink instead of frozen. The ones in frozen presently are out of date and frankly -- I screwed them up. Please put my new packages in frozen. In the changelog I have "frozen unstable" listed. Is this not adequate?? -- ---

Re: elvis package

1998-04-17 Thread Martin Schulze
On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 09:11:41AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Elvis is non-free and the author ignores all mail coming from us, > > both copyright mails as well as bugreports and fixes. > > Er... then why isn't it in non-free? Also, why is it our hig

Re: elvis package

1998-04-17 Thread Martin Schulze
Someone wrote: > > 4 or 5? No, in fact there are only 2 vi clones in main: nvi and vim. > > ae and emacs in vi-mode certainly don't count. elvis, unlike nvi and vim > > is the only one with X support. We should continue to push for it to be > > made free. I wish you good luck contacting the author

Re: elvis package

1998-04-17 Thread aqy6633
> 4 or 5? No, in fact there are only 2 vi clones in main: nvi and vim. > ae and emacs in vi-mode certainly don't count. elvis, unlike nvi and vim > is the only one with X support. We should continue to push for it to be > made free. Vim 5 has *very* nice X interface for both Athena and Motif. I,

CONFIRM s04171213544175

1998-04-17 Thread Philip Kollmannsberger
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Re: elvis package

1998-04-17 Thread Martin Mitchell
Enrique Zanardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Apr 18, 1998 at 02:13:52AM +1000, Martin Mitchell wrote: > > > > 4 or 5? No, in fact there are only 2 vi clones in main: nvi and vim. > > ae and emacs in vi-mode certainly don't count. elvis, unlike nvi and vim > > is the only one with X suppo

Re: elvis package

1998-04-17 Thread Raul Miller
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Elvis is non-free and the author ignores all mail coming from us, > both copyright mails as well as bugreports and fixes. Er... then why isn't it in non-free? Also, why is it our highest preference editor? Also, what aspect of the copyright notice puts

Re: Debian Bug#20445 disagree

1998-04-17 Thread Raul Miller
Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The choices are: don't ship them, ship them in contrib, or ship them > in project/experimental. I still don't understand why they don't fit in Extra. Packages designed the 2.1.* frozen kernels seem to exactly fit the policy for Extra. Did you post a mess

Re: elvis package

1998-04-17 Thread David Welton
On Sat, Apr 18, 1998 at 02:13:52AM +1000, Martin Mitchell wrote: > > We have about 4 or 5 other vi clones so there is no need for > > re-packaging it. If you don't need it I'd appreciate you work > > on better packages. > > 4 or 5? No, in fact there are only 2 vi clones in main: nvi and vim. >

Re: elvis package

1998-04-17 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Sat, Apr 18, 1998 at 02:13:52AM +1000, Martin Mitchell wrote: > > 4 or 5? No, in fact there are only 2 vi clones in main: nvi and vim. > ae and emacs in vi-mode certainly don't count. elvis, unlike nvi and vim > is the only one with X support. We should continue to push for it to be > made free

Re: elvis package

1998-04-17 Thread Martin Mitchell
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I will take over the orphaned elvis package, unless someone else has already > > said they'll do it. > > Elvis is non-free and the author ignores all mail coming from us, > both copyright mails as well as bugreports and fixes. We should not give up

Re: packages which are links to bo

1998-04-17 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 17 Apr 1998, Mark W. Eichin wrote: > > > How about just using "cp -r ..." to make the image you're going to > > Or even mkisofs -f... > Neither of which work when the symlinks in question have nothing to point to, which was, I believe, the original problem, wasn't it? Luck, Dwarf -- _-_-_-

Re: signals and atomicity

1998-04-17 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > now perhaps it is not interesting, wether the wait call succeeded, because > you can start it again. but what about a call to "read()" ? i MUST know, > wether it worked or wether it was interrupted by a signal! Off the top of my head, if you issue a blocking read, and

Re: packages which are links to bo

1998-04-17 Thread Mark W. Eichin
> How about just using "cp -r ..." to make the image you're going to Or even mkisofs -f... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Dumping core: root vs. normal user

1998-04-17 Thread Mark W. Eichin
> My educated guess on this is that there could be sensitive data in the > root core dump. I remember this was true on some unix I've worked on in That's often true if the program is *setuid* (or setgid) [to anything, not just root] - most, perhaps all unices will fail to dump core in that case

Re: Debian Bug#20445 disagree

1998-04-17 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Joel Klecker wrote: > I find it odd that the GNU ftp site and mirrors thereof are not considered > "wide distribution" by gettext's author. > > That is a very very old release (from december

objc compiler for hamm

1998-04-17 Thread Matthias Klose
The current gcc and egcs objc compilers doesn't translate the gstep-* packages. However newer snapshot versions of egcs doesn't have the bug anymore. Is the following proposal a solution for the problem? - from the egcs package, a new package gobjc, which contains only the (not working) ObjC co

Re: Debian Bug#20445 disagree

1998-04-17 Thread Joel Klecker
At 01:07 -0500 1998-04-17, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >Hi, >>>"Marcus" == Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Marcus> Is gettext so unstable? I doubt it. > > Dpes not matter. We should be respecting the upstream authors > wishes. Already Debian has the reputation of not forwarding bugs

Re: Debian Bug#20445 disagree

1998-04-17 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 01:07:34AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"Marcus" == Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Marcus> Is gettext so unstable? I doubt it. > > Dpes not matter. We should be respecting the upstream authors > wishes. Already Debian has the reputation

Re: Non-maintainer release of info-3.12

1998-04-17 Thread James Troup
Dirk Eddelbuettel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I just made a non-maintainer release of info_3.12-1 as Octave now > needs a version of info that is greater or equal to 3.11. [1] You called it 3.12-1.0 but it should be 3.12-0.1. Also you'll need to ensure (-sa to dpkg-buildpackage) that the .orig

Re: less: extra entries for lesspipe

1998-04-17 Thread Richard Braakman
Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote: > I can't add the /proc entries since you don't know the full pathname of > the file you are viewing. I could use `pwd` to find out what directory > I'm in. If you'd like me to do that, just say so but it would involve > another fork/exec for every file. (All the

Re: fltk and XForms compliance

1998-04-17 Thread Anthony Fok
On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 12:57:00PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 09:48:42AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > > That will be a problem with lyx as the upstream side is thinking about a > > switch anyway, but qt is the leading candidate there. > > I got the impression that

Re: Where are the boot floppies?

1998-04-17 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Thu, Apr 16, 1998 at 06:43:53PM -0400, Greg Stark wrote: > > They don't seem to be in the Incoming mirrors, are they somewhere else? dists/hamm/main/disks-i386/current -- Enrique Zanardi[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECT

RE: fltk and XForms compliance

1998-04-17 Thread Meskes, Michael
Yes, your right with klyx/lyx stuff. Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes, Project-Manager| topsystem Systemhaus GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Europark A2, Adenauerstr. 20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 52146 Wuerselen Go SF49ers! Go Rhein Fire! | Tel: (+49) 2405/

Re: X11_release_note.txt

1998-04-17 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Thu, Apr 16, 1998 at 02:06:24PM -0400, Igor Grobman wrote: > While working on the install doc, I noticed X11_release_note.txt which > is a note for debian X users with non-US keyboards. That note > seems to be a *little* outdated. Would someone with knowledge > of the issues care to update it,

Re: fltk and XForms compliance

1998-04-17 Thread jdassen
On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 09:48:42AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > That will be a problem with lyx as the upstream side is thinking about a > switch anyway, but qt is the leading candidate there. I got the impression that KLyX is a forked version, and that the LyX maintianers are trying to make cle

Re: fltk and XForms compliance

1998-04-17 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 09:48:42AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > Shaleh writes: > > The author has stated that this is no longer a goal of his library. > > Also, many of the XForms apps that we use would require modifications > > because the author of fltk did not re-create anything that took an

Re: less: extra entries for lesspipe

1998-04-17 Thread Darren/Torin/Who Ever...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I can't add the /proc entries since you don't know the full pathname of the file you are viewing. I could use `pwd` to find out what directory I'm in. If you'd like me to do that, just say so but it would involve another fork/exec for every file. (All the othe

Re: Lists archives outside debian.org

1998-04-17 Thread jdassen
On Thu, Apr 16, 1998 at 09:05:00PM +0100, Marco Budde wrote: > j>http://www.reference.com/ > j> and > j>http://www.findmail.com/ > > Nice for spams :(. We already have lists archives on the web; your homepage has two email addresses on it already. I don't think archiving our messages at

realtime lock bug in linuxthreads

1998-04-17 Thread erikyyy
hi i found a quite important and "grave" bug , but due to some problems i do not understand, the bug reporting system said it is a "boring" report. please read #21164. it shows how to lock down the whole system with just a few system calls. anyway, these system calls have nothing to do with locki

Re: fltk and XForms compliance

1998-04-17 Thread Michael Meskes
Shaleh writes: > The author has stated that this is no longer a goal of his library. > Also, many of the XForms apps that we use would require modifications > because the author of fltk did not re-create anything that took an X > type as an argument (like XEvent). It is possible to make the XForm

Re: dictd and wordnet

1998-04-17 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Could you make xteddy pop up at kernel oops? > > You can place a real teddy on your monitor and so you have it even if > your monitor is switched of. switched of? You mean you guys have a real life beyond computers? :) -- ---

Re: Packages which are in frozen which are libc5 based (and shouldn't be)

1998-04-17 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
>termcap-compat-1.1.1(extra) Christian Hudon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> this should maybe go in oldlibs, but stay libc5 ! e.g. if you install Accerlarated X - their setup programm needs this library. i don't know, if a libc6 version of this is necessary, i hope not (that people finaly switch to nc

signals and atomicity

1998-04-17 Thread erikyyy
hi, i found the following code in apache web server code. if the signal occurs after the wait system call, but before the result of the system call is stored in "wait_or_timeout_retval", the fact, that the system call succeeded is lost. this is (1) a bug in apache and (2) a problem of me that i w

www.debian.org

1998-04-17 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
FYI, We are aware that www.debian.org (va.debian.org) has gone missing - it is being worked on. An up to date mirror is at http://ftp1.us.debian.org Jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

xbase: xbase: fails to fail when told not to stop xfs/xdm

1998-04-17 Thread Branden Robinson
I think this is a bug in dpkg. When you answer "n" to that question about stopping xfs and xdm, the xbase preinst exits with a status of 1. There's really not much more the shell script can do. It's up to dpkg to interpret that as a failure and not go ahead with the package install (which it obv

Re: dictd and wordnet

1998-04-17 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > I blame you for that. How can you take xteddy not serious? We need it. > Everyone needs a teddy. This is human psychology. :) I think xteddy it more funny than serious but the job of maintaining it I will take serious. It this time I'm busy to give t

Re: Debian Bug#20445 disagree

1998-04-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Marcus" == Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Marcus> On Thu, Apr 16, 1998 at 07:37:20PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: >> If a package being in "experimental" does not implicitly mean "not >> to be distributed in CDs", then we would need definitely another >> different "experimenta

Re: packages which are links to bo

1998-04-17 Thread Rob Browning
Zed Pobre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't much like this solution. It will cause mirror to also > duplicate the files from binary-all that are symlinked to binary-i386. > That's a LOT of space. Personally, being as close to release as we are, > and noting how little space is actually g

Non-maintainer release of info-3.12

1998-04-17 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
I just made a non-maintainer release of info_3.12-1 as Octave now needs a version of info that is greater or equal to 3.11. [1] There were three files outside the debian/ that were patched in info-3.9. The patch didn't apply properly, and I didn't investigate further. It's been three upstream rev

[Linus Torvalds ] New dad (again)..

1998-04-17 Thread Ben Gertzfield
Linus 3.0 has been released! Hooray! -- Brought to you by the letters H and R and the number 6. "XTC versus Adam Ant -- which one will survive?" -- They Might Be Giants Ben Gertzfield Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet

Re: Test Report (was: Re: boot-floppies_2.0.4 (source i386) uploaded)

1998-04-17 Thread Rainer Clasen
Hi! Enrique Zanardi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Mon, Apr 13, 1998 at 05:16:54AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > >2) irritating: When installing from a (not yet mounted) hard disk partition > > > and entering the path to the main distribution, the > > > following > > >

Re: packages which are links to bo

1998-04-17 Thread Rob Browning
Tim Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I put a copy of the local debian mirror on a couple of CDs to install > for a friend, and I had problems with the following packages, because > they were links into bo, which I hadn't included on the CD. I don't > know if this is a problem or not, but it cer

packages which are links to bo

1998-04-17 Thread Tim Bell
I put a copy of the local debian mirror on a couple of CDs to install for a friend, and I had problems with the following packages, because they were links into bo, which I hadn't included on the CD. I don't know if this is a problem or not, but it certainly caught me out. doc-linux-it_97.02-1.de