Re: boot-floppies status from an insider (was Re: Deficiencies in Debian)

1999-09-19 Thread Joey Hess
Adam Di Carlo wrote: * eliminate all dselect acquisition methods aside from apt and possibly mountable (for NFS, which apt doesn't handle -- socks also not handled by apt but I don't know if we care) Apt can handle nfs just fine. If you want to mount/unmount the nfs server when apt

A few changes

1999-09-19 Thread Darren Benham
I thought some of you might be interested in a few changes that have been made to the BTS software... In the new software, the X-Debian-CC was changed to X-Debbugs-CC (more general) and it appears to be working. Some of the perl scripts have been made -w clean. A column was added to

Re: ProFTPd being lame

1999-09-19 Thread Robert Stone
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 11:46:52AM +0100, Chris Rutter wrote: Most people I know prefer using the OpenBSD-derived server, because it seems to be more stable and less buggy than the rest -- why is it being deprecated by Debian (or Herbert, I don't know) in this way? The OpenBSD ftp

Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

1999-09-19 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 03:58:02AM -0300, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: Here's a revised version of the script taking into account all comments so far. I guess Argentina isn't the only country that uses the SQL format. There must be some others too. It would be great to find a source for this

Re: A few changes

1999-09-19 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 04:09:17PM -0700, Darren Benham wrote: In the new software, the X-Debian-CC was changed to X-Debbugs-CC (more general) and it appears to be working. Oh yeah, indeed :) Some of the perl scripts have been made -w clean. Ueber-Cool. Bugs are no longer deleted!!! We

Re: Bug#45307: [PROPOSAL] virtual package ident-server

1999-09-19 Thread Herbert Xu
Clint Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The proliferation of ident daemons (midentd, oidentd, pidentd) in Debian necessitates the introduction of a virtual package that these packages can provide and conflict with (since you can only [reasonably] run one ident daemon at once). While ident-daemon

Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

1999-09-19 Thread Herbert Xu
Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk wrote: Robert Vollmert wrote: With /bin/sh - /bin/ash, I get the following error: guess.datestyle: 25: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting )) It works fine with bash. It seems the opening brace on case $x in ( SystemV | posix |

Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

1999-09-19 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
Here's a revised version of the script taking into account all comments so far. I guess Argentina isn't the only country that uses the SQL format. There must be some others too. It would be great to find a source for this information Hmm... the question is why we dont simply

Re: Increasing regularity of build systems

1999-09-19 Thread James LewisMoss
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:13:49 +0200 (CET), Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Santiago David Welton wrote: Xemacs21 - runs *autoconf* to generate other makefiles, which are then run. [...] autoconf doesn't generate makefiles. It generates a configure file. Do you seem what I mean?

Re: APRIS GNU/LINUX EXPO UPDATES. (need debian Logo).

1999-09-19 Thread Joey Hess
Jeff Teunissen wrote: Speaking of the open use logo, was it intentional or an unintentional artifact of the conversion from EPS to xfig that changed the shape of the letters and the logo itself? Unintentional, I think. I have .ps files with the correct shapes, and have sent them to the web

Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

1999-09-19 Thread Joel Klecker
At 20:58 -0300 1999-09-18, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: Well.. the libc maintainers don't want to add the locale for my country for no reason, even if it is included in the package as source. I use a target in the glibc makefiles to generate the locales, if it doesn't generate the one for your

Re: Announcing debconf, configuration management for debian

1999-09-19 Thread Scott Barker
I've sent this to the debian-devel list because I've tried to add some clarification to my suggestions, in case they were unclear to others (it seems they may have been). Note that none of my suggestions are in any way negative criticisms. debconf looks incredibly useful as it is, and I just had

Re: A few changes

1999-09-19 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 04:09:17PM -0700, Darren Benham wrote: Bugs are no longer deleted!!! We don't have a way for you to access them directly but there's an official location in the database where they're being archived. We're trying to decide how to serve them up... by requesting a bug

Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

1999-09-19 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
Well.. the libc maintainers don't want to add the locale for my country for no reason, even if it is included in the package as source. I use a target in the glibc makefiles to generate the locales, if it doesn't generate the one for your country, there's nothing I can do about it.

[Q] May I take over the mmm package?

1999-09-19 Thread Masayuki Hatta
Hi, I found the mmm package for Debian is quite obsolete and not usable anymore(it depends on several old packages like libc5). I guess that's because you could not re-build it with the newer version of Objective Caml. I contacted one of the original authors(Jun P. Furuse) and he was kind

Re: Hosed system during package build

1999-09-19 Thread Steve Greenland
On 17-Sep-99, 04:35 (CDT), J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 20:26:15 -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: I saw much talk about fakeroot not working with the new glibc, much talk about it being difficult to fix, and no talk about it being fixed. Actually,

Re: ProFTPd being lame

1999-09-19 Thread Raul Miller
On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 04:21:34PM -0700, Robert Stone wrote: Virtualhosting in proftpd is far easier than with wu-ftpd. As it stands now, I don't believe any debian ftp server supports virtual anon ftp sites as provided besides proftpd. roxen does. -- Raul

Re: A few changes

1999-09-19 Thread Bdale Garbee
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Bugs are no longer deleted!!! We don't have a way for you to access them directly but there's an official location in the database where they're being archived. We're trying to decide how to serve them up... by requesting a bug number, obviously, but

Re: Redesign of diskless NFS-root package ITP diskless-image

1999-09-19 Thread Brian May
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 11:46:36AM +1000, Brian May wrote: [description removed] I have made most of the changed required for my redesign of diskless. Amazingly, it looks like no changed are required for dpkg. I haven't yet tested anything though, and implementing secure mode might be a bit

Re: Move proftpd to contrib

1999-09-19 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 18, Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An alternative is wu-ftpd. It would be rather foolish to support wu-ftpd 100%, however, it has almost the same status as sendmail - it is a very You mean that it's like sendmail, i.e. security bugs pops out every time somebody looks at the code?

Re: A few changes

1999-09-19 Thread Herbert Xu
Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Definately by package. I can think of several circumstances where this is useful: when a bug is closed in unstable but someone using stable On a side note, it would be nice to be able to see the bugs filed against all binary packages of a source package,

Re: ProFTPd being lame

1999-09-19 Thread Anders Arnholm
Robert Stone wrote: Virtualhosting in proftpd is far easier than with wu-ftpd. As it stands now, I don't believe any debian ftp server supports virtual anon ftp sites as provided besides proftpd. Roxen does, at least if you have different IP numbers, I can't get IP-less vistual

Re: Announcing debconf, configuration management for debian

1999-09-19 Thread Martin Schulze
Branden Robinson wrote: Thanks again, Joey. I look forward to migrating XFree86 to debconf (won't happen for -1, but I'm hoping to tackle FHS-compliance and this for -2). Err, can you please wait for this until a) debconf has been accepted and b) there will be proper support for it and c)

RE: libwxx-gtk 2.1

1999-09-19 Thread Christian Surchi
On 17-Sep-99 Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: I was supposed to be taking them over. However I am stretched a wee thin at the moment. So, if you or someone else would like to help, feel free. I can't help you, I'm not able to handle that package. I was wondering about it because I was trying to

Orphaning Packages

1999-09-19 Thread Stevie Strickland
Well, I don't like to admit it, but school's gotten too busy for me to take care of a lot of the packages I have, so I'm setting them free to find good homes with other maintainers... here's a list of the packages I intend to orphan: libxml-parser-perl libxml-dom-perl libxml-cgi-perl /* Does this

Re: Move proftpd to contrib

1999-09-19 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 10:51:33PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Sep 18, Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An alternative is wu-ftpd. It would be rather foolish to support wu-ftpd 100%, however, it has almost the same status as sendmail - it is a very You mean that it's like sendmail,

Re: A few changes

1999-09-19 Thread Edward Betts
Darren Benham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the new software, the X-Debian-CC was changed to X-Debbugs-CC (more general) and it appears to be working. With an alias so that X-Debian-CC still works? Some of the perl scripts have been made -w clean. and `use strict;' clean? Bugs are no longer

Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

1999-09-19 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 12:31:27AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 06:36:47PM +0200, Robert Vollmert wrote: With /bin/sh - /bin/ash, I get the following error: guess.datestyle: 25: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting )) It works fine with bash. It seems the

Re: A few changes

1999-09-19 Thread Darren Benham
On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 02:27:20PM +0100, Edward Betts wrote: With an alias so that X-Debian-CC still works? Not guarenteed... It's not in the upstream package so I'd have to remeber to put it in every time I upgrade.. Some of the perl scripts have been made -w clean. and `use strict;'

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-19 Thread Rick Younie
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: You're also almost as good as stating that one cannot backup /etc, toss in a spare drive, do the install off a local NFS/FTP mount (less than 2 hours by a long shot) throw /etc back in (no need for a tape even, whatta concept!) and then get the

Re: A few changes

1999-09-19 Thread Edward Betts
Darren Benham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All @bugs.debian.org will accept PGP/GPG clearsigned and most forms of mime formated email. Most? Let me put it this way, I havn't found one that it barfs on but I'm sure there's some evil MUA that will prove it's not perfect. Does

Re: A few changes

1999-09-19 Thread Darren O. Benham
On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 07:18:54PM +0100, Edward Betts wrote: Darren Benham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All @bugs.debian.org will accept PGP/GPG clearsigned and most forms of mime formated email. Most? Let me put it this way, I havn't found one that it barfs on but I'm sure

Re: ProFTPd being lame

1999-09-19 Thread Martin Bialasinski
* Raul == Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raul On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 04:21:34PM -0700, Robert Stone wrote: Virtualhosting in proftpd is far easier than with wu-ftpd. As it stands now, I don't believe any debian ftp server supports virtual anon ftp sites as provided besides proftpd.

Re: Announcing debconf, configuration management for debian

1999-09-19 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 12:20:39PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: Branden Robinson wrote: Thanks again, Joey. I look forward to migrating XFree86 to debconf (won't happen for -1, but I'm hoping to tackle FHS-compliance and this for -2). Err, can you please wait for this until a) debconf has

Re: Announcing debconf, configuration management for debian

1999-09-19 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 01:16:23PM -0400, Branden Robinson wrote: On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 12:20:39PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: Branden Robinson wrote: Thanks again, Joey. I look forward to migrating XFree86 to debconf (won't happen for -1, but I'm hoping to tackle FHS-compliance and

Re: Orphaning Packages

1999-09-19 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Stevie Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: libxml-parser-perl libxml-dom-perl libxml-cgi-perl /* Does this exist anymore on CPAN? I haven't found * it since I originally packaged it. */ libxml-writer-perl I can take these. Mike.

apt-get dist-upgrade trouble...

1999-09-19 Thread Frederic CELLA
well i have an dell latitude cpi. i install slink r1 with no problem. (i stop install with selected package and i do not use dselect). i down load a apt-get update and i change source list to deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free i use a proxy. i change apt.conf.

Re: ProFTPd being lame

1999-09-19 Thread Raul Miller
On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 06:49:55PM +0200, Martin Bialasinski wrote: I use Roxen exclusively as a httpd where I have a say on the matter, but it is mainly a httpd, and lacks configuration features (like chrooting some selected users into different roots) I use with proftpd, although I have a

Re: Orphaning Packages

1999-09-19 Thread Ardo van Rangelrooij
Hi, I'm willing to take-over the libxml* packages. Thanks, Ardo Stevie Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, I don't like to admit it, but school's gotten too busy for me to take care of a lot of the packages I have, so I'm setting them free to find good homes with other maintainers...

Re: Too many kernels in unstable

1999-09-19 Thread Roland Rosenfeld
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Edward Betts wrote: My suggestion would be: kernel-{doc,headers,image,source}-2.0.38 kernel-{doc,headers,image,source}-2.2.12 Can anybody provide arguements against just having two kernels? Maybe I don't see all the problems, but why don't we name the packages

Re: Announcing debconf, configuration management for debian

1999-09-19 Thread Michael Sobolev
[ announce for debconf skipped ] Is i18n going to be supported by debconf? If yes, how? Thanks, -- Mike (who thinks i18n should be considered from the very beginning)

Re: boot-floppies status from an insider (was Re: Deficiencies in Debian)

1999-09-19 Thread Eric Delaunay
Adam Di Carlo wrote: Here's my unofficial boot-floppies TODO: * build for all supported arches * eliminate all dselect acquisition methods aside from apt and possibly mountable (for NFS, which apt doesn't handle -- socks also not handled by apt but I don't know if we care)

Re: Announcing debconf, configuration management for debian

1999-09-19 Thread Steve Greenland
On 17-Sep-99, 13:23 (CDT), Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a bit long, so I'll summarize: Debconf is a tool that packages can use to ask questions when they are installed. It allows various frontends, from dialog, to gtk to web pages to be used, and it also allows for

Re: Announcing debconf, configuration management for debian

1999-09-19 Thread Joey Hess
Michael Sobolev wrote: Is i18n going to be supported by debconf? If yes, how? Well Wichert and I have talked about this. One nice thing about debconf is it separates out nearly all translatable text from the postinst and configure script into it's template file. So it merely becomes a question

Re: Announcing debconf, configuration management for debian

1999-09-19 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Greenland wrote: I've read (or at least skimmed) the tutorial you posted, and it looks like the various configuration variables are associated with a package via the template foo/variable. What about variables that are logically shared between packages, such as the default directory for

Re: Announcing debconf, configuration management for debian

1999-09-19 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
Well Wichert and I have talked about this. One nice thing about debconf is it separates out nearly all translatable text from the postinst and configure script into it's template file. So it merely becomes a question of adding translations to that file. The file is formatted similarly to a

Re: demo vs. real package: FYI (was Re: Announcing debconf, configuration management for debian)

1999-09-19 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 02:45:32PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: FYI, sash_3.3-5 (which has been sitting in Incoming for the last couple weeks) no longer prompts at postinst time, as the postinst/prerm scripts have been completely redesigned. do they automatically set up sash as root's shell?

ITP: ndtpd

1999-09-19 Thread Susumu OSAWA
I intent to package ndtpd. From README: NDTPD is a server for accessing CD-ROM books with NDTP (Network Dictionary Transfer Protocol) on TCP. You can replace dserver with NDTPD. NDTPD can run on UNIX derived systems. It supports to access CD-ROM books of EB, EBG, EBXA, EBXA-C and EPWING

Re: Orphaning Packages

1999-09-19 Thread Stevie Strickland
Am Son, 19. Sep, 1999 schrieb Ardo van Rangelrooij: Hi, I'm willing to take-over the libxml* packages. They're yours :) Thanks, Stevie -- Stevie Strickland| 325912 Georgia Tech Station [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Georgia Institute of Technology

sash (was Re: demo vs. real package: FYI (was ...))

1999-09-19 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 02:45:32PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: FYI, sash_3.3-5 (which has been sitting in Incoming for the last couple weeks) no longer prompts at postinst time, as the postinst/prerm scripts have been completely redesigned. On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 07:18:09AM +1000, Craig

Re: sash (was Re: demo vs. real package: FYI (was ...))

1999-09-19 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 06:30:37PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 02:45:32PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: FYI, sash_3.3-5 (which has been sitting in Incoming for the last couple weeks) no longer prompts at postinst time, as the postinst/prerm scripts have been completely

Re: sash (was Re: demo vs. real package: FYI (was ...))

1999-09-19 Thread Joey Hess
Raul Miller wrote: They don't touch the root account. Instead, they clone it as sashroot and set the shell on the cloned account. This is mentioned in the package description. I suppose you have considered the security problems, if root forgets to change that password when they change the

New gnome-libs stuff up for testing...

1999-09-19 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
I believe I have a gotten a good build of an updated gnome-libs. And I only cursed Joey for the problems with dh_shlibdeps a little bit. It is currently a little lacking in the changelog department---that kind of got over-looked in the overhaul---but otherwise I think it's ready to go. One