On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 04:43:53AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
> I like using groups to give different sets of rights and I'm
> annoyed by Debian giving every user his own group. Is that
> reall necessary?
No, but it's a good idea. It makes it much easier to work in
directories shared with ot
> "Eray" == Eray Ozkural exa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Eray> Yep. I discovered that umask issue. I guess it's still a
Eray> problem.
zsh has in /etc/zshrc:
[[ $UID == $GID ]] && umask 002 || umask 022
My only dislike is it overrides my default setup in ~/.zshenv of 077.
It seems w
On Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 12:15:50AM -0800, Erik Winn wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I have just started working with a group here in Portland that is taking in
> old machines and recycling them - putting linux on as the OS (of course ;}).
> See http://www.freegeek.org for more. Its a non-profit all vol
Brian May wrote:
>
> > "exa" == exa writes:
>
> exa> Brian May wrote:
> >> - harder to administrate /etc/passwd as more users exist.
>
> exa> I like using groups to give different sets of rights and I'm
> exa> annoyed by Debian giving every user his own group. Is that
>
Nathan E Norman wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 04:43:53AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
> > I like using groups to give different sets of rights and I'm
> > annoyed by Debian giving every user his own group. Is that
> > reall necessary?
>
> It's useful when you're in a development environm
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 04:43:53AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
> Brian May wrote:
> >
> > - harder to administrate /etc/passwd as more users exist.
>
> I like using groups to give different sets of rights and I'm
> annoyed by Debian giving every user his own group. Is that
> reall necessary?
> "exa" == exa writes:
exa> You need to devise a package description/configuration
exa> language that is declarative rather than procedural.
exa> What comes to my mind would be some sort of "logical
exa> language", maybe something based on Prolog. That the
exa> statement
> "exa" == exa writes:
exa> Brian May wrote:
>> - harder to administrate /etc/passwd as more users exist.
exa> I like using groups to give different sets of rights and I'm
exa> annoyed by Debian giving every user his own group. Is that
exa> reall necessary?
I don't do t
Another thing I would like is something like the BSD "ports" -
download the source, have my machine do the compile, but still have
all the dependencies properly worked out (sort of an expanded apt-get
-b source).
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Anand Kumria wrote:
>
> In future please send those kinds of emails privately.
mis-take. :)
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On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 04:29:22AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
>
[snip - lengthy email]
All of which is fine and dandy. None of which belonged on a public
mailing list though. Your email is tangentially related to Debians'
effort to determine new categories.
In future please
Brian May wrote:
>
> - harder to administrate /etc/passwd as more users exist.
I like using groups to give different sets of rights and I'm
annoyed by Debian giving every user his own group. Is that
reall necessary?
cu,
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e-mail:
Mistakenly sent to debian-devel. This is off topic.
Merry Xmas to you all!!
Cheers,
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Brian May wrote:
>
> 2. Get rid of maintainer scripts (don't ask me how...) so that
> upgrading packages is guaranteed not to destroy your computer, even if
> the package came an from untrusted source. This could be carried
> further by saying "no daemons can be started by UID=root without
> expre
Hi Thomas,
I got back to working on ontology, and I'd like to give an answer to
one of your previous remarks. Your last e-mail was a bit harsh but
I'm hoping that you will find my view worthwhile. ;)
"Thomas Bushnell, BSG" wrote:
>
> I think that logic has a great deal to do with semantics.
>
>
> "Hamish" == Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hamish> On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 11:13:13AM +1100, Brian May wrote:
>> However, the idea of one UID per daemon is (IMHO) a really
>> horrible solution, too, as you end up having more UIDs for
>> daemons then users.
Ha
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 11:48:35AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 11:13:13AM +1100, Brian May wrote:
> > However, the idea of one UID per daemon is (IMHO) a really horrible
> > solution, too, as you end up having more UIDs for daemons then
> > users.
>
> Why is that a prob
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 11:13:13AM +1100, Brian May wrote:
> However, the idea of one UID per daemon is (IMHO) a really horrible
> solution, too, as you end up having more UIDs for daemons then
> users.
Why is that a problem? There are 65536 available UIDs.
Hamish
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> "Dwayne" == Dwayne C Litzenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Dwayne> Hello! I'm starting work on a new linux package manager.
Dwayne> The idea is to be able to replace rpm, dpkg, apt, dselect
Dwayne> (backend) with one,written mostly from scratch and
Dwayne> designed to be
> "Russell" == Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Russell> On Saturday 23 December 2000 09:13, KORN Andras wrote:
>> I feel that there exists a general confusion among some Debian
>> developers as to what user ids such as 'nobody' should be used
>> for. I suggest that th
On Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 11:48:32PM +0100, Arthur Korn wrote:
> Joey Hess schrieb:
> > Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
> > > I just noticed that `apache-doc' puts the documentation under
> > > "http://.../doc/apache";, while `debconf-doc' puts it under
> > > "http://.../debconf-doc/";.
> >
> > Eh? (Deb
Hi
Mark Seaborn schrieb:
> I want a system where I can install multiple versions of a library (or
> any package really) and say which version I want each program on the
> system to use, possibly on a per-user basis. The present system is a
> disaster waiting to happen: If I install a package fro
Joey Hess schrieb:
> Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
> > I just noticed that `apache-doc' puts the documentation under
> > "http://.../doc/apache";, while `debconf-doc' puts it under
> > "http://.../debconf-doc/";.
>
> Eh? (Debconf-doc is a package, that contains some documentation files.
> It doesn't
Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
> I just noticed that `apache-doc' puts the documentation under
> "http://.../doc/apache";, while `debconf-doc' puts it under
> "http://.../debconf-doc/";.
Eh? (Debconf-doc is a package, that contains some documentation files.
It doesn't touch the web space at all.)
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Erik Winn wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I have just started working with a group here in Portland that is taking in
> old machines and recycling them - putting linux on as the OS (of course ;}).
> See http://www.freegeek.org for more. Its a non-profit all volunteer thing;
> and actually one of the pe
Hi Aaron,
Thanks very much for the pointer - I'm reading the docs for it and it looks
very promising. Might even be worth building a couple of debs from it ... no
promises on that right now though :).
Happy "whicheveryouprefer"!
Erik Winn
On Monday 25 December 2000 01:08, Aaron Lehmann wrot
"Dwayne C . Litzenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> So my question is: What do you wish for in a package manager?
I want a system where I can install multiple versions of a library (or
any package really) and say which version I want each program on the
system to use, possibly on a per-user b
Scavenging the mail folder uncovered Wichert Akkerman's letter:
> Previously Federico Di Gregorio wrote:
> > after being asked so by the upstream author i declare my intention
> > to orphan (from now) the following packages:
>
> Why does upstream want you to orphan them?
he developed popy and
Previously Federico Di Gregorio wrote:
> after being asked so by the upstream author i declare my intention
> to orphan (from now) the following packages:
Why does upstream want you to orphan them?
Wichert.
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/ No
"Dwayne C . Litzenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>-- On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 11:44:13AM -0500, Adam Lazur wrote:
>> Dwayne C . Litzenberger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
>> > So my question is: What do you wish for in a package
manager?
>>
>> Relocatable packages so a user can do an individual pac
Joseph Carter wrote:
>
> On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 07:54:00PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote:
> > personally the plain text database is one of dpkg's greatest assets.
> > its a royal pain to repair a binary database when it gets fscked. and
> > yes i have already been saved from a total reinstall throug
On Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 01:29:44PM +, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Dec 2000 15:41:54 -0500, Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >However, I would say that if the program dies so frequently that it needs a
> >wrapper like this, it should probably be fixed.
>
> console-log uses less
Hello,
when looking into /etc/rcS.d (it's the first directory with RC scripts that
are processed at boot, isn't it?) I found this order of scripts:
README
S05keymaps-lct.sh
S10checkroot.sh
S20modutils
S30checkfs.sh
S30procps.sh
S30setserial
S35devpts.sh
S35mountall.sh
S40hostname.sh
S40networking
* Ethan Benson
| personally the plain text database is one of dpkg's greatest assets.
| its a royal pain to repair a binary database when it gets fscked. and
| yes i have already been saved from a total reinstall through the
| ability to fix dpkg's broken database with a text editor.
semi-intel
On Sat, 23 Dec 2000 15:41:54 -0500, Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>However, I would say that if the program dies so frequently that it needs a
>wrapper like this, it should probably be fixed.
console-log uses less syslog which dies every time the user types "Q".
And it needs to die if
On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 10:47:00PM -0600, Dwayne C . Litzenberger wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I'm starting work on a new linux package manager. The idea is to be able to
> replace rpm, dpkg, apt, dselect (backend) with one,written mostly from scratch
> and designed to be as simple (code, not features) an
On Sat, 23 Dec 2000 15:41:54 -0500, Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 06:46:46PM +, Marc Haber wrote:
>> You'd have to have a ton of precautions. The task at hand seems
>> trivial, but it isn't :-(
>
>init does a good job of this; if there were an easy, error-pr
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On Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 12:15:50AM -0800, Erik Winn wrote:
> Here is the first obstacle - not really a big one, but I spent all day
> digging around and couldn't really find any tools for this one: we want to be
> able to clone the machines easily over the local net.
> boot floppy that asks only
Hi Folks,
I have just started working with a group here in Portland that is taking in
old machines and recycling them - putting linux on as the OS (of course ;}).
See http://www.freegeek.org for more. Its a non-profit all volunteer thing;
and actually one of the people has posted to one of the
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> I'm the developer of the aacraid driver. I've noticed some old posts on your
>> web site w/r/t this driver. If the maintainer of the debian kernel is
>> including this driver, he/she should contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> to make sure
On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 07:54:00PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote:
> personally the plain text database is one of dpkg's greatest assets.
> its a royal pain to repair a binary database when it gets fscked. and
> yes i have already been saved from a total reinstall through the
> ability to fix dpkg's br
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