Re: What to do about /etc/debian_version

2001-01-07 Thread Goswin Brederlow
> " " == Martin Keegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Joey Hess wrote: > I think /etc/mtab is on its way out. A 2.4.x >> kernel with devfs has a > /proc/mounts that actually has a >> proper line for the root filesystem. >

Re: finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition

2001-01-07 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, 1 Jan 2001, Joey Hess wrote: >... > Take another look at where we are now. If 6 people fix one package a > day until woody is frozen, we might just manage to convert all packages > that do not yet use /usr/share/doc. If that is done, we only have to wait 2 > more releases of debian until t

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

2001-01-07 Thread Goswin Brederlow
> " " == Sam Vilain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 09:33:05 -0700 (MST) Jason Gunthorpe > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > If that suits your needs, feel free to write a bugreport on >> apt about this. Yes, I enjoy closing such bug reports with a >> ter

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-07 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote on Sat Jan 06, 2001 um 05:35:55PM: > Or alias -I to -j, but print a warning to stderr: > > tar: warning: Using the -I option for bzip compression is an obsolete > functionality and it will removed in future versions of tar, > > Then, in the woody+1 we make -I

Re: Compiling 2.0.38 kernel

2001-01-07 Thread Chris L. Mason
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 02:08:17PM +0100, Stefan Frank wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > incidentally i tried to do the same yesterday. > I got the same error message as you, but didn't bother to try to fix it. > Maybe you need an older version of make? > > If you manage to get this kernel working, would

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-07 Thread Martin Bialasinski
* Sam Couter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm sure this has been said before, but: Sure, but it doesn't apply here. > Don't run unstable if you don't like stuff changing or breaking. tar in potato uses -I for bzip2. So far, tar -I won't be bzip2 in woody, the next stable. So anyone using just

Re: What to do about /etc/debian_version

2001-01-07 Thread Martin Keegan
Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Joey Hess wrote: > > I think /etc/mtab is on its way out. A 2.4.x kernel with devfs has a > > /proc/mounts that actually has a proper line for the root filesystem. > > Linking the two files would probably actually work on such a system > > with

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-07 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 12:12:59AM +1100, Sam Couter wrote: > Don't run unstable if you don't like stuff changing or breaking. > Unstable breaks stuff from time to time. It changes stuff more often than > that. This is a bit different, Sam. The I switch works in tar in potato. Your comment would a

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

2001-01-07 Thread Sam Vilain
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 19:08:38 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sami Haahtinen) wrote: > Or, can rsync sync binary files? > hmm.. this sounds like something worth implementing.. rsync can, but the problem is with a compressed stream if you insert or alter data early on in the stream, the data after that ch

Re: XFree4.0.2 / wdm interaction bug?

2001-01-07 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi William! You wrote: Content-Description: brief message > I've experienced a bug and I'm not entirely sure what to file it against. [...] > What I actually saw was that after I switched vt's a couple of times, > screen corruption occurred. The images from the two Xservers running on > different

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread exa
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:23:20AM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: > Golly, there _was_ a misconfiguration. Now that you've made your > disdain for Branden's sharp tongue well known, I hope you plan to > apologize to Matt Zimmerman for your rudeness. > I'm glad the problem has been resolved. I cou

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread exa
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:29:03AM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote: > Thanks for the suggestion. That's it. Please close the bug. That file has > somehow gone and replacing it will solve the problem. And of course moving .bash_profile out of the way. Thanks again. Please don't complain "why have you su

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-07 Thread Sam Couter
Goswin Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just as linux-centric as the other way is solaris-centric. Not true. There's the way GNU tar works, then there's the way every other tar on the planet works (at least with respect to the -I option). GNU tar is (used to be) the odd one out. Now you're s

Processed: hmmm

2001-01-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > retitle 81396 root shell fscked after admin fscked it Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody Changed Bug title. (By the way, that Bug is currently marked as done.) > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistanc

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

2001-01-07 Thread Sam Vilain
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 09:33:05 -0700 (MST) Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If that suits your needs, feel free to write a bugreport on apt about > > this. > Yes, I enjoy closing such bug reports with a terse response. > Hint: Read the bug page for APT to discover why! >From bug report

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-07 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 04:40:03AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 11:34:04PM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > > > If you call your insults to another contributor to debian "deserved rant", > > > then I'd think you are either misinterpreting yo

Re: Optimisations query

2001-01-07 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 10:43:38AM +, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > However Red Hat seems to have solved the same problem with RH 7.0 - > despite whatever else that release is. They do this by compiling to a > target CPU of i686 but keeping the target platform to i386. Not too > ideal for AMD

Re: What is wrong with kde2.1 and unstable ?

2001-01-07 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
> > no clue...I don't use apt to upgrade. :) Your not alone tho, there is a > > existing bug report on this (#81365)...so any help you can give me to track > > I do use apt through dselect and did an upgrade un Thursday and on Friday. > It worked nicely expect that task-koffice was removed by ap

Re: lilo.conf

2001-01-07 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:53:29PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > The latest package is supposed to ask you whether you want to generate a new > lilo.conf or keep the manually created one (default keep the manual one). If If you already have a /etc/lilo.conf, why ask anything at all? I like the

Re: can the bug reporter close a bug? [was:Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody]

2001-01-07 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:57:11AM -0600, Gordon Sadler wrote: > On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:14:40AM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: > > I apologize for prolonging this thread - it's quite annoying. > > However, after reading this enlightened response I wonder if it's > > possible for a user to close

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-07 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 05:43:52PM +1000, Jason Henry Parker wrote: > ``Banks *are* bastards.'' -- John Laws Err, yeah.. takes one to know one? Hamish, glad we don't have him down here. -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: ITA gnucash?

2001-01-07 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 08:22:10PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I just want to ask if somebody knows if the maintainer is still > > active. Gnucash have now quite a lot of bugs and there is a new > > I am here. Had you cared enough to look at the b

Re: What is wrong with kde2.1 and unstable ?

2001-01-07 Thread Michael Meskes
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 03:27:18PM -0700, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > no clue...I don't use apt to upgrade. :) Your not alone tho, there is a > existing bug report on this (#81365)...so any help you can give me to track I do use apt through dselect and did an upgrade un Thursday and on Friday. It

Re: XFree4.0.2 / wdm interaction bug?

2001-01-07 Thread William Lee Irwin III
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 02:02:52AM -0800, William Lee Irwin III wrote: > I've experienced a bug and I'm not entirely sure what to file it against. > I'm also not sure if anyone else has ever seen this, and was hoping > someone else might try such a setup and verify the bug exists before > really re

Re: lilo.conf

2001-01-07 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-01-06 Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 05:40:53PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: > > On 01-01-06 Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 01:58:48PM +0100, Cosimo Alfarano wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 01:33:57PM +0100, Peter Makholm wrote: > > > > > Don't ass

Re: update excuses.. how to read them

2001-01-07 Thread Paul Slootman
On Sun 07 Jan 2001, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:05:57AM +0100, Paul Slootman wrote: > > jed-sl-ja is not built anymore (note that it is "out of date" on > > ALL architectures). Does this mean it won't be installed into > > woody until someone manually removes jed-sl-ja_0.98.

Optimisations query

2001-01-07 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
Hello, I was just thinking about one thread of discussion that happens quite some time ago on having optimised Debian packages, which resulted in the conclusion that it 1. not enough speed benefit 2. uses up too much bandwith However Red Hat seems to have solved the same problem with RH 7.0 - de

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-07 Thread Martin Bialasinski
* "Eray Ozkural (exa)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Users here are not at all interested in the psychological state of a > particular developer. On the contrary, every developer should be > required to deal with every bug report in an objective manner. > Inappropriate dismissal or incorrect evaluation o

XFree4.0.2 / wdm interaction bug?

2001-01-07 Thread William Lee Irwin III
I've experienced a bug and I'm not entirely sure what to file it against. I'm also not sure if anyone else has ever seen this, and was hoping someone else might try such a setup and verify the bug exists before really reporting it. I set up wdm to run X on multiple vt's thusly in /etc/X11/wdm/Xser

Re: lilo.conf

2001-01-07 Thread Russell Coker
On Saturday 06 January 2001 23:04, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I am working on the Debian package of lilo and am writing code for > > auto-generating lilo.conf files. > > Presumably, if there is a /etc/lilo.conf file already on the system, you > will ask whether t

Re: lilo.conf

2001-01-07 Thread Russell Coker
On Saturday 06 January 2001 23:33, Peter Makholm wrote: > Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > boot=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc > > root=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3 > > Don't assume devfs! A lot of us uses it, but before our standard > kernel uses it our lilo package s

Re: lilo.conf

2001-01-07 Thread Russell Coker
On Sunday 07 January 2001 05:50, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > > >>"Russell" == Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Russell> other=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 > Russell> label=part1 > Russell> table=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc > > Eh? I have an SCSI

Re: How to report bugs (was glibc thing)

2001-01-07 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Greg Stark wrote: > Just writing in your conclusions is useless 90% of the time. Your conclusions > may be right but the maintainer doesn't have ESP and can't necessarily deduce > where they came from and what the bug is. I will try to assemble a test case as soon as I have some time. It's been a

Processed: Re: can the bug reporter close a bug? [was:Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody]

2001-01-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > close 81396 Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody Bug closed, send any further explanations to "Eray 'exa' Ozkural" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > thanks, Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Darren Benham (admini

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-07 Thread exa
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 05:43:52PM +1000, Jason Henry Parker wrote: > Eray Ozkural (exa) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hmm. Well, I know about that. The display managers start all right. The > > problem occurs when I login. I'd tried xdm, wings and gdm. How come all > > of them failed then? >

Re: can the bug reporter close a bug? [was:Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody]

2001-01-07 Thread Gordon Sadler
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:57:11AM -0600, Gordon Sadler wrote: > Actually under /usr/doc/debian the doc-debian package provides a number > of files, including bug-main-mailcontrol.txt. > > A message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] of this format: > > close $(bugnumber) > thanks > > will close a bug. Only s

Re: can the bug reporter close a bug? [was:Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody]

2001-01-07 Thread Gordon Sadler
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:14:40AM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: > I apologize for prolonging this thread - it's quite annoying. > However, after reading this enlightened response I wonder if it's > possible for a user to close the (silly) bug he or she reported after > he or she solves the problem

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-07 Thread Jason Henry Parker
Eray Ozkural (exa) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 11:03:57PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > > The display manager > > starts the X server, not the other way around, which means that the X server > > has no control over the display manager's behavior; and the authentication >

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 04:38:10AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > Hi Matt!! > > I don't report a bug due to misconfiguration. Let's see if what you > see applies, though. [ snip rude and silly reply ] [ time passes ] On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:29:03AM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote: > Hi Adam, >

can the bug reporter close a bug? [was:Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody]

2001-01-07 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:29:03AM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote: > On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 10:55:32PM -0700, Adam Conrad wrote: > > Hate to state the obvious, but on a DEFAULT Debian install, if nothing is > > changed, root's default path with be dictated by /root/.profile ... Maybe > > the machine be

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-07 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 04:25:43AM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 03:28:46AM +0100, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > > "tar -xIvvf file.tar.bz2" has been in use under linux for over a year > > by pretty much everybody. Even if the author never released it as > > stable, all linux

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread exa
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 04:36:09PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > why not? > > the most you'd have to do is put up a single web page with links to > local copies of ssh clients for various platforms...and optionally > replace telnetd with a script (or tcp-wrapper's "twist" capability) > which print

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread exa
Hi Adam, On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 10:55:32PM -0700, Adam Conrad wrote: > Hate to state the obvious, but on a DEFAULT Debian install, if nothing is > changed, root's default path with be dictated by /root/.profile ... Maybe > the machine behaving fine still has this file, and the other has had it >

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread Adam Conrad
Hate to state the obvious, but on a DEFAULT Debian install, if nothing is changed, root's default path with be dictated by /root/.profile ... Maybe the machine behaving fine still has this file, and the other has had it deleted, and then (and only then) is login/whatever providing you with a defaul

Re: Obsolete software in /usr/local

2001-01-07 Thread Greg Stark
Ben Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 03:49:07PM -0500, Greg Stark wrote: > > I've been meaning to bring this up for a while: > > Why on earth was this change ever made? > > I can't speak for whoever made the change, but I suspect that it is > because LD_LIBRARY_PAT

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-07 Thread exa
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 11:03:57PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > The display manager > starts the X server, not the other way around, which means that the X server > has no control over the display manager's behavior; and the authentication > failure you reported came from the display manager and

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