Re: 2 package(s) to rebuild on i386/stable

On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 11:05:06PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > auric: has packages from testing/unstable installed That's why there is vore. > debussy: only reachable through a gateway machine if you happen to > have an account on it Machine is marked as down for this reason. > kubrick:

Re: Proper way for a i586-pc-linux-gnu (k6-2) to build for the same

Well. I somehow installed p-buildr from stable onto a testing system--don't know? Installed p-buildr for testing, and there were no problems at all. Couldn't tell if I had successfully optimized a build afterwards (the build went well, though). thanks, ah

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

"Ivan E. Moore II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit: > > It is the wrong procedure. The correct procedure is to refile the bug > > against the correct package, which takes no more time than closing it. > > dude. get a fucking clue. What is the right fucking package when the user > say

Re: libpng transition

"Steve M. Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If we go this route, how do we gracefully handle a bump in > SONAME for libM? We have no way. We have an ungraceful way, however: create a flag day, when all the relevant applications need to be recompiled. Another way is to bump the soname on

libpng transition

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 05:48:53PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Thu, 03 Jan 2002, Ed Tomlinson wrote: > > and have created one (See 127215). From my perspective the problem > > seems to be the libpng3 changes the dependencies of qt2 and hense kde. > > It seems the fix is not to r

Re: EURO and CENT signs in the console keymaps

Branden Robinson wrote: > Well, that need not be the case here. All we need is a gizmo that > generates console keymaps from XKB description files, and then loads > them. That would be cool, and if I knew anything at all about either of the maps, I'd be jumping to write it. -- see shy jo, overl

Re: EURO and CENT signs in the console keymaps

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 11:12:25PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > Branden Robinson wrote: > > > BTW: is there any particular reason why the sequences differ between > > > console and X? > > > > Yes. XFree86 and console-{tools,data} have completely different > > upstreams. > > And of course a little c

Re: EURO and CENT signs in the console keymaps

Branden Robinson wrote: > > BTW: is there any particular reason why the sequences differ between > > console and X? > > Yes. XFree86 and console-{tools,data} have completely different > upstreams. And of course a little consistency and uniformity is too much to ask for in the unix world until it

Re: Some thoughts about problems within Debian

Fabian Fagerholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2002-01-04 at 02:23, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > > smooth introduction? you never heard of policy, maint-guide, developers' > > reference, web pages, etc, have you? > > I have. That is not what I call a smooth introduction. For a person who

Re: dpkg-cross maintenance status

YAEGASHI Takeshi writes... > Is there anyone who utilize dpkg-cross? I used it for bootstrapping Debian on hppa, it's *very* useful. I didn't need to make too many changes. I still need to submit a patch for hppa support. At the time I was too distracted by having a native toolchain to spend t

Re: dpkg-cross maintenance status

YAEGASHI Takeshi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > According to BTS, it seems that dpkg-cross has been left unmaintained > for more than 1 year... Have you asked the maintainer?

dpkg-cross maintenance status

Hi, Is there anyone who utilize dpkg-cross? According to BTS, it seems that dpkg-cross has been left unmaintained for more than 1 year... I want to add SuperH support to dpkg-cross (I've just reported as the wishlist, Bug#127723), and there are several bugs I want to fix too. Is there any hope

Re: Some thoughts about problems within Debian

On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 03:22:09AM +0200, Fabian Fagerholm wrote: > On Fri, 2002-01-04 at 02:23, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > > smooth introduction? you never heard of policy, maint-guide, developers' > > reference, web pages, etc, have you? > > Many operating systems have accompanying "certific

Re: Size of file changes when uploading to ftp servers.

On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 01:01:26AM +0100, Eric Van Buggenhaut wrote: > ftp-master server. I just realize the size of the file has changed > between my local copy and the file available at packages.debian.org : it has not, the checksum has: > 75337cc8ad3a21e3eb46e31fa24d5393 1000617 crafty_18.1

Re: Some thoughts about problems within Debian

On Thu, 2002-01-03 at 18:33, Fabian Fagerholm wrote: > What the people writing about this matter seem to be after is > - what is expected of a maintainer? > - how does the debian project fit together? > - what can I do? > - what must I know to be able to do this? > - where do I go to ask if I must

Re: Some thoughts about problems within Debian

On Fri, 2002-01-04 at 02:23, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > smooth introduction? you never heard of policy, maint-guide, developers' > reference, web pages, etc, have you? I have. That is not what I call a smooth introduction. For a person who can devote, say 24 hours per month to working on a pro

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 06:09:31PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: > > On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > > > > your right..but we are not talking about that. We are talking about a > > > bug report filed against a meta package where the user wa

Re: BitKeeper

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 01:13:13PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > OK, perhaps the relicensing rule is not non-free; I'm less sure of > that. I don't think it's obvious from a casual reading of the DFSG that such a requirement is non-free, but perhaps it should be. -- G. Branden Robinson

Re: EURO and CENT signs in the console keymaps

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 12:39:31PM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: > BTW: is there any particular reason why the sequences differ between > console and X? Yes. XFree86 and console-{tools,data} have completely different upstreams. -- G. Branden Robinson| The key to being a Sout

Re: Quake 2 sources GPL'd

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 01:12:01PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Sat, 22 Dec 2001, Branden Robinson wrote: > > >... > > In fact, I would consider it acceptable in general to move everything in > > contrib to main as long as it each package was forced to be priority > > extra until it was suitable

Re: Size of file changes when uploading to ftp servers.

also sprach Eric Van Buggenhaut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.04.0101 +0100]: > 75337cc8ad3a21e3eb46e31fa24d5393 1000617 crafty_18.12-4.diff.gz > fb8740eea8c993d911521da4e3585edf 1000616 crafty_18.12-4.diff.gz >^^^ > > Anyone understands this ? they have

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 06:09:31PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: > On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > > your right..but we are not talking about that. We are talking about a > > bug report filed against a meta package where the user wanted me to submit > > bugs for each of the 40+ package

Re: Some thoughts about problems within Debian

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 23:24:12 +0100 (CET) Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One important thing are more frequent releases. We don't have to release > as often as other distributions but IMHO it's needed to have a new stable totally agreed, I hope debian-installer will be one of the solutions

Re: Some thoughts about problems within Debian

On 04 Jan 2002 01:33:35 +0200 Fabian Fagerholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think the real "debian problem" is not about maintainers MIA, orphaned > packages or slow release cycles. The real problem is about lack of > smooth introduction of new participants, and a complicated, undocumented > int

Size of file changes when uploading to ftp servers.

Hi, I'm a bit puzzled, I upload some weeks ago a package to non-us ftp-master server. I just realize the size of the file has changed between my local copy and the file available at packages.debian.org : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.0 Source: crafty Version: 18.12-4 Bi

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > your right..but we are not talking about that. We are talking about a > bug report filed against a meta package where the user wanted me to submit > bugs for each of the 40+ packages he listed. Anthony Towns was working on a clone command last weeken

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 04:41:59PM -0600, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 02:07:57PM -0500, Ed Tomlinson wrote: > > > I use debain. As a debian user I am quite distressed at how this > > > bug is being treated. I have watched the bug

Re: Some thoughts about problems within Debian

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Sure, everyone agrees. This has been hashed over and over and over. Talking >about it doesn't help. Solve the problem. Debian is too big. Split it up in 'core' (must fit easily on one CD) and 'added value' (the other 21 CD

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 04:19:02PM -0700, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 04:41:59PM -0600, Colin Watson wrote: > > If a bug I filed had been treated that way, I would have reopened it > > immediately. Closing a bug out of hand just because you don't agree with > > where it has be

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

On Thu, 03 Jan 2002, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > I am not a secretary. If the user wants all those bugs filed he can do > it himself. *NO*. If a user wants all those bugs filled, he should mail -devel and ask about it. Just like we urge developers to do before mass-filling bugs. -- "One disk t

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 03:40:26PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > "Ivan E. Moore II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > first off the package "kde" is a meta package that has no binaries so > > there is absolutely no problem with that package. The bug report was closed > > with a comment of

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 03:37:24PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > "Ivan E. Moore II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > no. I did not. No where did I state I would submit bug reports for > > our users, provide all the necessary information on behalf of users, > > or anything of the sort. I

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

"Ivan E. Moore II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > first off the package "kde" is a meta package that has no binaries so > there is absolutely no problem with that package. The bug report was closed > with a comment of "file it against the proper packages please". What is > so wrong about this? A

Re: Some thoughts about problems within Debian

On Fri, 2002-01-04 at 00:24, Adrian Bunk wrote: > Most of us who work for Debian do this in our spare time. But I do > personally disagree with the "you can't force a volunteer to do anything" > argument I heard in several discussions. These were discussions about > things where some work of the ma

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

"Ivan E. Moore II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > no. I did not. No where did I state I would submit bug reports for > our users, provide all the necessary information on behalf of users, > or anything of the sort. I am a Debian Developer, not a secretary. It is the responsibility of every Debia

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 10:22:56AM +1100, Sam Couter wrote: > Ivan E. Moore II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > please tell me where I stated I would do the work for our users? > > When you signed up as a Debian Developer. no. I did not. No where did I state I would submit bug reports for our

Re: Some thoughts about problems within Debian

Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sure, everyone agrees. This has been hashed over and over and over. Talking > about it doesn't help. Solve the problem. Yeah, but I read Adrian's mail as attempting to prod people into trying to think of solutions. The 'testing' release is an attempted

Re: Some thoughts about problems within Debian

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Adrian Bunk wrote: > Hi, > > One important thing are more frequent releases. We don't have to release > as often as other distributions but IMHO it's needed to have a new stable > release at about once a year. Currently the software in our stable release > is two years old and

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

Ivan E. Moore II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > please tell me where I stated I would do the work for our users? When you signed up as a Debian Developer. -- Sam Couter | Internet Engineer | http://www.topic.com.au/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]| tSA Consulting | OpenPGP key ID:

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 04:41:59PM -0600, Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 02:07:57PM -0500, Ed Tomlinson wrote: > > I use debain. As a debian user I am quite distressed at how this > > bug is being treated. I have watched the bug reports on this issue > > and have created one (See 1

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 11:47:08PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > > This kind of problem does only occur if we ship several versions of a > > > shared library at the same time (in this case libpng2 and libpng3). As > > Or if the user needs t

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

On Thu, 03 Jan 2002, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > > This kind of problem does only occur if we ship several versions of a > > > shared library at the same time (in this case libpng2 and libpng3). As > > > > Or if the user needs to have different ve

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > This kind of problem does only occur if we ship several versions of a > > shared library at the same time (in this case libpng2 and libpng3). As > > Or if the user needs to have different versions of said library because of > some closed-s

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 02:07:57PM -0500, Ed Tomlinson wrote: > I use debain. As a debian user I am quite distressed at how this > bug is being treated. I have watched the bug reports on this issue > and have created one (See 127215). If a bug I filed had been treated that way, I would have reop

Re: debian-devel-digest Digest V102 #11

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Re: debian-devel-digest Digest V102 #11

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Re: An alarming trend (no it's not flaimbait.)

On Thu, 03 Jan 2002, Craig Dickson wrote: > Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: > > If a package has gotten very stale, and nobody has taken up > > maintainence, isn't that a pretty good indication that nobody is > > using it anyhow? > > Is it? Is the average Debian user both able and willing to be a Obvi

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

On Thu, 03 Jan 2002, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > >... > > We actually need a Debian-wide (well, probably a LSB-wide) fix for the > > problem. The same kind of breakage is expected to hit us again and again > > until we do that. > > This kind of pro

Some thoughts about problems within Debian

Hi, I had several discussions with people on Debian lists that became very emotional. They thought that they were right in a discussion and I thought that I was right and nothing but anger resulted from these discussions. Several times the "opponents" in these discussions are people that are longe

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: >... > We actually need a Debian-wide (well, probably a LSB-wide) fix for the > problem. The same kind of breakage is expected to hit us again and again > until we do that. This kind of problem does only occur if we ship several versions of a

Re: EURO and CENT signs in the console keymaps

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ari Makela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 04:23:24PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > >> As far as I know most keyboards don't have an AltGr key.. > >In North America that's probably correct (what would they do with it?) >but it's essential wit

Re: EURO and CENT signs in the console keymaps

Hi! I'm using this discussion for the RFC for a bug/feature I'm experiencing regarding the EURO-symbol. I still didn't get the euro-sign to work in console, but that doesn't bother me because I do almost everything under X. When I use a iso8859-15 font in xterm, the euro will display correctly, b

Re: BitKeeper

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) writes: > OK, perhaps the relicensing rule is not non-free; I'm less sure of > that. But the outright prohibition of certain modifications certainly > kills it. I only talked about the relicensing issues. I'm sorry it wasn't clear by my quoting (I can see

Re: An alarming trend (no it's not flaimbait.)

Darrell Rene Dupas wrote: > no it isnt flame bait but it is newbie bait! Not if you read it correctly. Try again. > there is an good discussion on this very topic at the following url > http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/ I was talking about Debian policy and procedures, not g

Re: EURO and CENT signs in the console keymaps

On 3/01, Ari Makela wrote: | In the Nordic keyboard mappings too many important characters ( {[]}\$ to | mention a few) are behind AltGR (the right alt). It's quite common that | Nordic programmers use US mappings when they code or some home brewd | version of US keymap. A keyboard that is handy

Re: bogus maintainers?

* Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-01-03 22:31]: > On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 09:28:22PM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: >> And to be honest - you could have tried to check the Packages file you >> get from debian archive. > > What, you want the devel/people script to check the validity of the ema

Re: An alarming trend (no it's not flaimbait.)

no it isnt flame bait but it is newbie bait! there is an good discussion on this very topic at the following url http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/ take care. i am not a maintaner yet! someday hopefully dd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: If a package has gotten v

Re: bogus maintainers?

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 09:28:22PM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > And to be honest - you could have tried to check the Packages file you > get from debian archive. What, you want the devel/people script to check the validity of the emails in the Packages files? > But that was quite some days (we

Re: BitKeeper

Peter Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) writes: > > > Bitkeeper is (as you note) not free. Not only the usage restrictions > > are a problem, but also the requirement that changes you make may be > > distributed by BitOwner "under any license". > > T

Re: BitKeeper

> "Peter" == Peter Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Peter> There is nothing in the DFSG saying the a licens can't Peter> require you to give the original autor all rights to you Peter> changes. So that single part of the license I refered to Peter> does not makes it even more

Re: bogus maintainers?

* Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-01-03 21:06]: > On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 08:37:31PM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: >> What I meant was: the page was apparently generated from local data >> (from a local /var/lib/dpkg/available perhaps?). > > And I said it _was not_. > > The broken package rea

Re: EURO and CENT signs in the console keymaps

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 04:23:24PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > As far as I know most keyboards don't have an AltGr key.. In North America that's probably correct (what would they do with it?) but it's essential with European languages with the possible exception of British English. In the

Re: EURO and CENT signs in the console keymaps

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 11:08:48AM +0100, Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote: > I suppose swedish and danish keyboards are alike. I think they are almost identical. AFAIK the only difference is that 'ä' and 'ö' have changed places on the keyboard. And, of course, the Danes do not use 'ö' but ø but tha

Re: bogus maintainers?

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 08:37:31PM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: > > > > Maintainer, Unknown Kernel Package <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > main: kernel-doc-2.4.5-r4k-kn04, kernel-source-2.4.5-r4k-kn04 > > > > > > > > What's up with this? This is not a legitimate maintainer address IMO. > > > >

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

On Thu, 03 Jan 2002, Ed Tomlinson wrote: > and have created one (See 127215). From my perspective the problem > seems to be the libpng3 changes the dependencies of qt2 and hense kde. > It seems the fix is not to revert/fix libpng but to fix the qt > dependencies however I get the impression that f

Re: bogus maintainers?

Hi Josip! You wrote: > > > Maintainer, Unknown Kernel Package <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > main: kernel-doc-2.4.5-r4k-kn04, kernel-source-2.4.5-r4k-kn04 > > > > > > What's up with this? This is not a legitimate maintainer address IMO. > > > > Probably the script that generates this page is

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

I use debain. As a debian user I am quite distressed at how this bug is being treated. I have watched the bug reports on this issue and have created one (See 127215). From my perspective the problem seems to be the libpng3 changes the dependencies of qt2 and hense kde. It seems the fix is not to

Re: An alarming trend (no it's not flaimbait.)

Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: > If a package has gotten very stale, and nobody has taken up > maintainence, isn't that a pretty good indication that nobody is > using it anyhow? Is it? Is the average Debian user both able and willing to be a maintainer, and sufficiently aware of ongoing developments

Re: Sponsor for gkrellm-newsticker

I demand that Hereward Cooper may or may not have written... > I'm looking for a sponsor for gkrellm-newsticker. > The upstream can be found at > http://www.tu-ilmenau.de/~tisa-in/newsticker.html The debian package can be > found at http://www.zadok.uklinux.net/debian > Gkrellm-newsticker scroll

Re: An alarming trend (no it's not flaimbait.)

If a package has gotten very stale, and nobody has taken up maintainence, isn't that a pretty good indication that nobody is using it anyhow? What about taking packages like that and removing the binary .deb, but leave the last source package in the archive... there should be a way through

Re: EURO and CENT signs in the console keymaps

Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Most keyboards have AltGr-e as Euro > - the French keymap (relative to US layout: <]>) > - the Hungarian keymap (relative to US layout: <\>) > - the Norwegian and Swedish keymap (relative to US layout: <4>) > > Did I miss anything or is something wro

Re: Processed: Fixed in NMU of tkstep8.0 8.0.4p2-4.1

> Additionally I see that you did other changes to unix/tkstepConfig.sh that > aren't even mentioned in the changelog! Here is the complete diff between what I uploaded, and what was in the archive. Dunno what change you're seeing in tkstepConfig.sh, but it was there in 4p2-4. lamont ===

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 09:17:01AM -0600, Colin Watson wrote: > On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 08:06:33PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > > On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 21:36:24 +1100 > > Mark Purcell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My question still remains. If we require a big recompile, when/ how are > > > we

Re: EURO and CENT signs in the console keymaps

On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 01:41:33PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: > - Most keyboards have AltGr-e as Euro As far as I know most keyboards don't have an AltGr key.. Wichert. -- _ /[EMAIL PROTECTED] This space intentionally l

Re: BitKeeper

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 02:52:01AM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > (crossposted to debian-legal for input on the license; please direct > followups to -devel or -legal as appropriate) > > Has anyone looked into packaging BitKeeper (www.bitkeeper.com)? We have a package here which we build from th

Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng

On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 08:06:33PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 21:36:24 +1100 > Mark Purcell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My question still remains. If we require a big recompile, when/ how are we > > going to bother to advise the maintainers of these packages? It has been

Re: EURO and CENT signs in the console keymaps

On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 01:41:33PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: > I tried to include the support for Euro and Cent in the console keymaps. > Cent is not a problem. It is allmost unknown and AltGR-e could be surely > used for this. But Euro is a problem - keymaps have different location > of the ?. I

Re: bogus maintainers?

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 03:47:41PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > > > Maintainer, Unknown Kernel Package <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > How the hell were you able to draw that conclusion? The script may be > broken, but that it would randomly insert local data into the web pages, > well that's just too stu

Re: bogus maintainers?

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 09:23:50AM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: > > >From http://www.debian.org/devel/people, I see: > > > > Maintainer, Unknown Kernel Package <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > main: kernel-doc-2.4.5-r4k-kn04, kernel-source-2.4.5-r4k-kn04 > > > > What's up with this? This is not a l

[Fwd: URGENT AND CONFIDENTIAL]

419 on the loose again, Erling Berge -- Professor, Ph.D., Department of Sociology and Political Science, Norwegian University of Science and Technology, NO-7491 Trondheim, Norway tel.: +47 73591721 e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> homepage:

Re: BitKeeper

Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Please elaborate. There is nothing in the DFSG saying the a licens can't require you to give the original autor all rights to you changes. So that single part of the license I refered to does not makes it even more or even less non-free. -- Når folk

Re: BitKeeper

Peter Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit: > > Bitkeeper is (as you note) not free. Not only the usage restrictions > > are a problem, but also the requirement that changes you make may be > > distributed by BitOwner "under any license". > > Thats not non-free in any way. The Freed

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Re: Quake 2 sources GPL'd

On Sat, 22 Dec 2001, Branden Robinson wrote: >... > In fact, I would consider it acceptable in general to move everything in > contrib to main as long as it each package was forced to be priority > extra until it was suitable for general-purpose use as packaged in main > (including any dependencie

Re: Processed: Fixed in NMU of tkstep8.0 8.0.4p2-4.1

On Fri, 28 Dec 2001, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: > Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > tag 126700 + fixed > Bug#126700: tkstep8.0: never removes alternative > Tags added: fixed Why on earth do you make a NMU for my package less than 24 hours after the original bug report and w

Re: EURO and CENT signs in the console keymaps

Hi Jan! You wrote: > And for those of us that type using 10 fingers, what is the compose > sequence? =e, $e, |e don't seem to work. -E and =E work for me. BTW: is there any particular reason why the sequences differ between console and X? -- Kind regards, +--

Re: BitKeeper

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) writes: > Bitkeeper is (as you note) not free. Not only the usage restrictions > are a problem, but also the requirement that changes you make may be > distributed by BitOwner "under any license". Thats not non-free in any way. The Freedom DFSG describes

Re: Preparing a Proposal: 3 DD needed for every NEW package

On Tue, 2002-01-01 at 12:51, Egon Willighagen wrote: > Yes, wether it is after 1 or 2 releases... IMHO, i think it is important that > the Debian Project should decide what is good for the distribution... all > packages that do not meet 'our' standard can be moved into "unstable" > and being in u

Re: EURO and CENT signs in the console keymaps

"Zephaniah E\. Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Excuse my ignorance but I have no keys labelled AltGr. Which is it? > > The right alt key. And for those of us that type using 10 fingers, what is the compose sequence? =e, $e, |e don't seem to work. Jan. -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: EURO and CENT signs in the console keymaps

On Wednesday 02 January 2002 23:08, Mikael Hedin wrote: > Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > - the Norwegian and Swedish keymap (relative to US layout: <4>) > > All my keyboards (swedish) have it on AltGr + e. Shift + 4 is still > the ¤-symbol (currency). I suppose swedish and danish k

Re: Bug#127461: ITP: SkunkWeb - An extensible and easy to use web application server

On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 07:36:11PM +, Rob Bradford wrote: > On Wed, 2002-01-02 at 15:50, Dave Swegen wrote: > > package: wnpp > > severity: wishlist > > > > > > License: GPL v2 > > > > URL: http://skunkweb.sourceforge.net > > > > Description: > > > > SkunkWeb is a web application server wr

Re: how to move a config file during package upgrade

On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 03:17:09PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Thomas Lange wrote: > > my package fai will have a new location for its configuration file > > /etc/fai.conf. The next version will use /etc/fai/fai.conf. How can I > > handle this in a preinst script during an upgrade ?

Re: EURO and CENT signs in the console keymaps

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 07:46:02PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 11:08:32PM +0100, Mikael Hedin wrote: > > Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > - the Norwegian and Swedish keymap (relative to US layout: <4>) > > > > All my keyboards (swedish) have it on Alt

Re: EURO and CENT signs in the console keymaps

On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 11:08:32PM +0100, Mikael Hedin wrote: > Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > - the Norwegian and Swedish keymap (relative to US layout: <4>) > > All my keyboards (swedish) have it on AltGr + e. Shift + 4 is still > the ¤-symbol (currency). Excuse my ignorance

Re: bogus maintainers?

Hi Thomas! You wrote: > >From http://www.debian.org/devel/people, I see: > > Maintainer, Unknown Kernel Package <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > main: kernel-doc-2.4.5-r4k-kn04, kernel-source-2.4.5-r4k-kn04 > > What's up with this? This is not a legitimate maintainer address IMO. Probably the scr

Re: BitKeeper

Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Has anyone looked into packaging BitKeeper (www.bitkeeper.com)? The > license[0] is obviously non-free due to usage restrictions, but people seem > to like it, and some of the licensing restrictions are arguably in defense > of other kinds of freedom.

BitKeeper

(crossposted to debian-legal for input on the license; please direct followups to -devel or -legal as appropriate) Has anyone looked into packaging BitKeeper (www.bitkeeper.com)? The license[0] is obviously non-free due to usage restrictions, but people seem to like it, and some of the licensing

Re: proftpd with the security bug fixed still not in testing due to m68k

First of all, note that -68k is officialy a users' forum. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the m68k porters' mailinglist. Cc changed accordingly. On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Josip Rodin wrote: > Hi, > > It seems the lack of a m68k package for proftpd 1.2.4-2 is stopping proftpd > from propagating into testing, and t