Re: gcc on a biarch system

2003-07-05 Thread Bart Trojanowski
* Arnd Bergmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030705 17:14]: > No, that's exactly the wrong way around. dpkg-libinfo (at least the > current proposal) uses dpkg-architecture to find the target > architecture and dpkg-architecture in turn calls gcc to get that. > It makes sense this way, although dpkg-libinf

Re: A success story with apt and rsync

2003-07-05 Thread Corrin Lakeland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 06 July 2003 11:27, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > Koblinger Egmont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Hi, > > > > >From time to time the question arises on different forums whether it is > > > > possible to efficiently use rsync with apt-get. Recent

Re: A success story with apt and rsync

2003-07-05 Thread Adam Heath
On 6 Jul 2003, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > Doogie is thinking about extending the Bittorrent protocol for use as > apt-get method. I talked with him on irc about some design ideas and > so far it looks realy good if he can get some mirrors to host it. My plans are to require no additional software

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 01:03:11 +1000, Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >ITP: google.com Please do so and have it uploaded asap. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse

Re: Resolvconf -- a package to manage /etc/resolv.conf

2003-07-05 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 05, Thomas Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >* Before entering the Debian archive it would be nice if resolvconf > were supported by all packages that currently futz with > /etc/resolv.conf, including pump and bind. If you mean that if should be mandatory to install this package on ever

Re: Resolvconf -- a package to manage /etc/resolv.conf

2003-07-05 Thread Nick Phillips
On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 01:00:20AM +0200, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > The simplest form would be: > > resolv.conf-register /etc/init.d/squid reload Actually I think the simplest form would be to have /etc/resolvconf/notify.d and run all scripts in there at the relevant times, with any necessary ar

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 11:22:06PM +0200, Artur R. Czechowski wrote: > On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 11:26:44AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > Goswin Brederlow wrote: > > > Could the dh_undocumented programm allways fail with an error "Don't > > > use me" as the next step? That way all new uploads will be f

Re: A success story with apt and rsync

2003-07-05 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Koblinger Egmont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > >From time to time the question arises on different forums whether it is > possible to efficiently use rsync with apt-get. Recently there has been a > thread here on debian-devel and it was also mentioned in Debian Weekly News > June 24th, 20

Re: A success story with apt and rsync

2003-07-05 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 11:56:41PM +0200, Koblinger Egmont wrote: > order of files > > dpkg-deb puts the files in the .deb package in random order. I hate this > misfeature since it's hard to eye-grep anything from ``dpkg -L'' or F3 in > mc. We run ``dpkg-deb --build'' using the sortdir library ([

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-05 Thread Colin Walters
On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 17:22, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 04:35:09PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > > So, I assume that with that you mean that we have "sacrificed one of our > > core values" as well? My. All this sacrifice is making me hungry. :P > > Damn. That means some OTHER

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-05 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 12:33:52AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> There are borderline cases, such as the GFDL or free works in > >> non-editable formats (PS, PDF, in some cases even HTML), or licenses > >> or other documents of perceived legal r

Re: Debconf and XFree86 X servers

2003-07-05 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [Please direct any XFree86-specific followup to debian-x.] > > On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 08:46:00AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > Yet another reasons for wanting to decouple installation and > > configuration is if some hardware company (such as VA^H

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-05 Thread Goswin Brederlow
"Artur R. Czechowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 11:26:44AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > Goswin Brederlow wrote: > > > Could the dh_undocumented programm allways fail with an error "Don't > > > use me" as the next step? That way all new uploads will be forced to > > > car

Re: Resolvconf -- a package to manage /etc/resolv.conf

2003-07-05 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Thomas Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Summary > ~~~ > Resolvconf is a proposed standard framework for updating the > system's information about currently available nameservers. > > Most importantly, it manages /etc/resolv.conf , but it does > a bit more than that. You should think of a

Re: Bug#200153: ITP: e2tools -- utilities for manipulating files in an ext2/ext3 filesystem

2003-07-05 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 11:57:35PM +0200, Falk Hueffner wrote: > > > E2tools is a simple set of GPL'ed utilities to read, write, and > > > manipulate files in an ext2/ext3 filesystem. > > > > please excuse my ignorance - what would be the advantage of these > > tools over the core file utilities w

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-05 Thread Florian Weimer
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> There are borderline cases, such as the GFDL or free works in >> non-editable formats (PS, PDF, in some cases even HTML), or licenses >> or other documents of perceived legal relevance. > > I have argued on debian-legal that licenses as applied to sp

Re: The nature of testing and where can others help (Was Re: HowTo for Gnome2??)

2003-07-05 Thread Bruce Sass
Hi, I accidentally deleted all the messages in my debian-user folder . However, I do remember enough of your original post to (hopefully) enlighten you. I have also done the nasty cross-post thing to -devel because I conclude with a thought on how to get the package pool living up to its potenti

Re: NEWS.Debian support is here

2003-07-05 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 01:01:14AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Thanks to Matt Zimmerman and Joe Drew, apt-listchanges will now display > NEWS.Debian entries for upgraded packages. They're displayed before the > regular changelog entries, and Matt plans to later let it be configured > to only display

A success story with apt and rsync

2003-07-05 Thread Koblinger Egmont
Hi, >From time to time the question arises on different forums whether it is possible to efficiently use rsync with apt-get. Recently there has been a thread here on debian-devel and it was also mentioned in Debian Weekly News June 24th, 2003. However, I only saw different small parts of a huge an

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 05:22:33PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Mark Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030705 16:05]: > > On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 02:56:30PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > > > > OK, so basically you think ftpmaster people should spend review each ITP > > > for > > > such global rejection

Re: Bug#200153: ITP: e2tools -- utilities for manipulating files in an ext2/ext3 filesystem

2003-07-05 Thread Falk Hueffner
Ralf Treinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > E2tools is a simple set of GPL'ed utilities to read, write, and > > manipulate files in an ext2/ext3 filesystem. > > please excuse my ignorance - what would be the advantage of these > tools over the core file utilities which use the VFS layer? You do

Debconf and XFree86 X servers

2003-07-05 Thread Branden Robinson
[Please direct any XFree86-specific followup to debian-x.] On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 08:46:00AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > Yet another reasons for wanting to decouple installation and > configuration is if some hardware company (such as VA^H^H Emperor > Linux) wishes to ship Debian pre-installed

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Andreas Barth wrote: > Marc is doing it the other way: He want an interface to reject a > package before substantial work has been spent on it. So there > shouldn't be this conflict any more, which would be a good thing. Isn't this why ITPs are usually CCed to debian-devel? Look what has been done

Re: Debconf or not debconf : Conclusion

2003-07-05 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 04:21:45PM +0200, Julien LEMOINE wrote: > I will upload a stunnel4 package and a stunnel with Epoch tomorrow. Excellent decision. :) Thank you. -- G. Branden Robinson| The key to being a Southern Debian GNU/Linux | Baptist:

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 10:14:10AM +0200, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > >>Debugging anti-virus software should be done by the maintainers thereof. >>Why would a user need this? > i used it many times, for example to find out which archives are checked and > which not. In fact

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-05 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 05:16:07PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: > Fortunately, the situation you describe is unlikely to occur because few > people are perverse enough to make their software free but their > documentation very non-free. /me falls into a fit of coughing *COUGH*h *COUGH*t *COUGH*t *C

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-05 Thread Joey Hess
Artur R. Czechowski wrote: > What's about dh_undocumented looking like: > -- > #!/bin/bash > if [ $FORCE_UNDOCUMENTED = 1 ]; then > echo You are still using dh_undocumented which is obsoleted. > echo Stop it. > else > echo You are using obsoleted dh_undocumented in your debian

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-05 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 12:53:56AM -0400, David B Harris wrote: > Except for the title, the DFSG is very content-agnostic. It can be > applied equally well to software, fiction, nonfiction, images, what have > you. I think that's a feature. Apparently, some people think it's a bug. -- G. Brande

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-05 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 03:53:55AM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: > On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 02:34:56PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > | The Debian Social Contract says "Debian Will Remain 100% Free Software". > | If there are things "in Debian" that are "not free" or "not software", > | then we

Re: Bug#200153: ITP: e2tools -- utilities for manipulating files in an ext2/ext3 filesystem

2003-07-05 Thread Ralf Treinen
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 05:24:21PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > Package: wnpp > Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-05 > Severity: wishlist > > * Package name: e2tools > Version : 0.0.13 > Upstream Author : Keith Sheffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://home.e

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Andreas Barth wrote: > * Thomas Viehmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030705 09:35]: > >>Marc Haber wrote: >> Well that's the purpose of ITP-bugs against wnpp I think, because they are CC'd to debian-devel for public review. >>>Please show me a single ITP bug number where ftpmaster has said "this

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-05 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 02:03:11PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> Debian really needs a separate policy for works which are not > >> software. > > > > We could have a policy for non-software, but it should still exclude > > non-free things. What y

Re: gcc on a biarch system

2003-07-05 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Saturday 05 July 2003 19:44, Bart Trojanowski wrote: > On amd64, we currently have a biarch-gcc that builds 32bit binaries by > default, and 64bit ones with a -m64 option. Coding debian/rules for this > is pretty trivial but still requires some ugly architecture specific > hacks in each debian/

reliable mirroring of local web tree?

2003-07-05 Thread Steve M. Robbins
Howdy, The boost libraries have excellent documentation in HTML format. Unfortunately, there is no "make install" equivalent to copy the files into a nice place. Nor is it as simple as "cp -a docs ..." as the files are intermixed with the source code. But there is a top-level "index.htm" file,

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-05 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 04:35:09PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > So, I assume that with that you mean that we have "sacrificed one of our > core values" as well? My. All this sacrifice is making me hungry. :P Damn. That means some OTHER deity has been intercepting the products of ritual slaughter o

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-05 Thread Artur R. Czechowski
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 11:26:44AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Goswin Brederlow wrote: > > Could the dh_undocumented programm allways fail with an error "Don't > > use me" as the next step? That way all new uploads will be forced to > > care. > No. Breaking 400+ packages so our uses cannot build them

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-05 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 03:54:20PM -0500, Joshua Haberman wrote: > * Branden Robinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 01:42:01PM -0500, Joshua Haberman wrote: > > > I think non-free removal will seem more radical if it means that > > > Debian will no longer distribute RFCs on

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-05 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 04:13:09PM -0500, Joshua Haberman wrote: > And I am arguing that there is no reason not to endorse RFCs just as > we endorse license texts. That last sentence is a personal judgement > that I would guess many Debian developers would find agreement with. I wouldn't. The be

Re: Why doesn't libsidplay enter testing?

2003-07-05 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 10:05:59AM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > * Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-07-04 00:03]: > > Please stop saying rude things like "Please check " to the people > > who are trying to explain the state of play to you, because they are > > right: it has been like this fo

Re: Resolvconf -- a package to manage /etc/resolv.conf

2003-07-05 Thread Simon Hürlimann
Am Samstag, 5. Juli 2003 21.51 schrieb Thomas Hood: > Summary > ~~~ > Resolvconf is a proposed standard framework for updating the > system's information about currently available nameservers. Cool, I really like this idea. > the need to supply resolver information > to DNS cache programs such

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 08:51:27PM +0200, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 04:43:56PM +0200, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > > > Could the dh_undocumented programm allways fail with an error "Don't > > > use me" as the next step? That way a

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 08:26:43PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > OK, so basically you think ftpmaster people should spend review each ITP > > for such global rejection reasons, then? You can't expect this to happen > > in any remotely timely fashion, at least not with this many ftpmasters > > a

Resolvconf -- a package to manage /etc/resolv.conf

2003-07-05 Thread Thomas Hood
Summary ~~~ Resolvconf is a proposed standard framework for updating the system's information about currently available nameservers. Most importantly, it manages /etc/resolv.conf , but it does a bit more than that. Background and rationale During the long discussion

Re: Debconf or not debconf : Conclusion

2003-07-05 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 08:46:00AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 05:05:01PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > The point of decoupling installation and configuration is to let the admin > > choose which of these scenarios happen, instead of the distribution or > > the maintaine

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-05 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 04:43:56PM +0200, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > > Could the dh_undocumented programm allways fail with an error "Don't > > use me" as the next step? That way all new uploads will be forced to > > care. > > this will still create fa

Re: gcc on a biarch system

2003-07-05 Thread Ben Collins
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 01:44:31PM -0400, Bart Trojanowski wrote: > On amd64, we currently have a biarch-gcc that builds 32bit binaries by > default, and 64bit ones with a -m64 option. Coding debian/rules for this > is pretty trivial but still requires some ugly architecture specific > hacks in ea

Bug#200163: ITP: png2ico -- command-line PNG to ICO converter

2003-07-05 Thread martin f krafft
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-05 Severity: wishlist * Package name: png2ico Version : 20021208 Upstream Author : Matthias Benkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.winterdrache.de/freeware/png2ico/ * License : GPL Description :

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Yven Johannes Leist
On Saturday 05 July 2003 09:26, Marc Haber wrote: > On Sat, 5 Jul 2003 03:01:14 +0200, Yven Johannes Leist > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I find that to be a very unfair accusation, since at least to my eyes > > there was nothing especially unfriendly, unreasonable or otherwise > > criticizable

Re: gcc on a biarch system

2003-07-05 Thread Michael Banck
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 01:44:31PM -0400, Bart Trojanowski wrote: > I propose obtaining the gcc specific options from a dpkg-libinfo > (introduced by Gerhard Tonn's lib64 patches) or dpkg-architecture. > debian/rules can query for said options, and use them in order to build > for a given host arch

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-05 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 04:43:56PM +0200, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > Could the dh_undocumented programm allways fail with an error "Don't > use me" as the next step? That way all new uploads will be forced to > care. this will still create fail to build bugs for no good reason. Greetings Bernd --

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 02:56:30PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > OK, so basically you think ftpmaster people should spend review each ITP for > such global rejection reasons, then? You can't expect this to happen in any > remotely timely fashion, at least not with this many ftpmasters and this > many

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 10:14:10AM +0200, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > Debugging anti-virus software should be done by the maintainers thereof. > Why would a user need this? i used it many times, for example to find out which archives are checked and which not. In fact I even already wrote bugs for AV

gcc on a biarch system

2003-07-05 Thread Bart Trojanowski
On amd64, we currently have a biarch-gcc that builds 32bit binaries by default, and 64bit ones with a -m64 option. Coding debian/rules for this is pretty trivial but still requires some ugly architecture specific hacks in each debian/rules. These hacks can be troublesome if the default compile ta

Re: Woody KDE 3 packages

2003-07-05 Thread Tobias Wolter
On 2003-07-05T11:36:31-0600 (Saturday), Shaun Jackman wrote: > Also, I can't seem to upgrade or install the new packages. What have > I done wrong here? Blind shot: $ apt-cache policy $ man apt_preferences And doesn't this question belong to users? -towo -- `But When I Am Off Duty I Will Gla

Woody KDE 3 packages

2003-07-05 Thread Shaun Jackman
I'm using the following APT line deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.2/Debian stable main When I update, the Release file is ignored by apt-get. Why is this? Also, I can't seem to upgrade or install the new packages. What have I done wrong here? Thanks, Shaun # apt-get update Hit h

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 05:22:33PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > Nobody said that ftpmaster must see all problems from ITP. But - every > problem that is seen at ITP time saves volunteer time for more usefull > things. That actually appeared to be exactly what Marc was asking for when he started

Re: Juridical prosecution

2003-07-05 Thread Alexander Schmehl
Dear Sir, * Martin Sobek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030705 17:57]: > You place your page on address www.sobek-sobek.com unlawfully! No we did not. > Remove it immediately or you risk juridical prosecution. Please take a closer look at this page, or at least read the first paragraph: "This is a pl

Re: Juridical prosecution

2003-07-05 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le sam 05/07/2003 à 17:57, Martin Sobek a écrit : > You place your page on address www.sobek-sobek.com unlawfully! Remove it > immediately or you risk juridical prosecution. > > > Sobek-Sobek.com q analytic service q [EMAIL PROTECTED] q +420605921227 > > q Bryksova 27, 19800 Prague 9, CZ Can you

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 01:02:13PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 10:14:10 +0200, Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >Marc Haber wrote: > >> Because it makes debugging anti-virus software harder, and forces > >> maintainers of anti-virus packages to have their own means

Juridical prosecution

2003-07-05 Thread Martin Sobek
You place your page on address www.sobek-sobek.com unlawfully! Remove it immediately or you risk juridical prosecution. > Sobek-Sobek.com q analytic service q [EMAIL PROTECTED] q +420605921227 > q Bryksova 27, 19800 Prague 9, CZ > > <>

Re: [solved] failing to compile a KDE package

2003-07-05 Thread Ben Burton
> >Uh, this is not a problem with autoconf. It is a problem with upstream > > calling AC_CHECK_COMPILERS (which checks for all compilers) and ignoring > > the results thereof. > > ok. i'll have it sent upstream. FYI, all upstream probably needs to do is update their admin/ directory with a f

Re: [solved] failing to compile a KDE package

2003-07-05 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Sam Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.07.05.1718 +0200]: >Uh, this is not a problem with autoconf. It is a problem with upstream > calling AC_CHECK_COMPILERS (which checks for all compilers) and ignoring > the results thereof. ok. i'll have it sent upstream. -- Please do not CC m

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Andreas Barth
* Mark Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030705 16:05]: > On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 02:56:30PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > > OK, so basically you think ftpmaster people should spend review each ITP for > > such global rejection reasons, then? You can't expect this to happen in any > > remotely timely fashi

Bug#200153: ITP: e2tools -- utilities for manipulating files in an ext2/ext3 filesystem

2003-07-05 Thread Robert Millan
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-05 Severity: wishlist * Package name: e2tools Version : 0.0.13 Upstream Author : Keith Sheffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://home.earthlink.net/~k_sheff/sw/e2tools/index.html * License : GPL Descripti

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-05 Thread Joey Hess
Goswin Brederlow wrote: > Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Artur R. Czechowski wrote: > > > OTOH, maybe dh_undocumented should be removed from debhelper with prior > > > notice? "This program does nothing and should no longer be used." > > > > As a rule I try to avoid causing less than

Re: [solved] failing to compile a KDE package

2003-07-05 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003, martin f krafft wrote: > ./configure: line 1: g++: command not found > configure:21244: $? = 127 > > This is, IMHO, a problem with autoconf, as it should really check > for g++ first. Uh, this is not a problem with autoconf. It is a problem with upstream calling AC_CHEC

[solved] failing to compile a KDE package

2003-07-05 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.07.05.1629 +0200]: > Hmm.. is it possible to post the section of config.log where the > error occurs? I had read this file upside down, inside out, from left to right and right to left. I found nothing. This time I immediately spotted the problem:

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 09:01:25AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:32:29 +0200, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 04:51:49PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > >> In the past years, I have found it annoying that the eicar anti-virus > >> testfile is not avai

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-05 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Artur R. Czechowski wrote: > > OTOH, maybe dh_undocumented should be removed from debhelper with prior > > notice? "This program does nothing and should no longer be used." > > As a rule I try to avoid causing less than 469 FTBFS bugs with any given > chang

Re: failing to compile a KDE package

2003-07-05 Thread Ben Burton
> problem status: still unsolved. Hmm.. is it possible to post the section of config.log where the error occurs? b.

Re: failing to compile a KDE package

2003-07-05 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.07.05.1556 +0200]: > ./configure --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt3 i had --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 --with-qt-libraries=/usr/lib in there, but I still get the same error if I replace that with what you wrote above... i can also write /

Re: failing to compile a KDE package

2003-07-05 Thread Ben Burton
> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.2) (library > qt-mt) not found. Try ./configure --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt3 and see if that helps. If it does then upstream is using a very old admin/ directory which should probably be updated. If the compilation then breaks becau

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 02:56:30PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > OK, so basically you think ftpmaster people should spend review each ITP for > such global rejection reasons, then? You can't expect this to happen in any > remotely timely fashion, at least not with this many ftpmasters and this > man

failing to compile a KDE package

2003-07-05 Thread martin f krafft
Folks, I am near explosion. I am trying to sponsor the kmymoney2 package found at ftp://shakti.ath.cx/debian/kde3.1-sid/kmymoney2 , but I cannot build it. I am not a KDE user, so that may be the root of the problem. Here is the error I see all the time: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-05 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 02:10:12PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Stephen Stafford] > > We have a commitment that everything in Debian main is Free. Since > > the RFC license is NOT Free, it can't be in main. This does NOT > > imply anything about the usefulness of RFCs, merely about their

Re: Close old RFP/ITPs?

2003-07-05 Thread Andreas Barth
* Sam Hocevar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030705 14:50]: > On Sat, Jul 05, 2003, Andreas Barth wrote: > > is it usefull/ok to close old RFP/ITP-entrys? "old" means for me more > > than year since the last mail for ITP, and 2 years for RFP. Of course > > I would write mail first whether the package is sti

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 01:17:50PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > The discussion is only about global reasons, as "wrong license", "we > don't need this package" or simmilar. This reasons could be discussed > before making the package quite as easy as afterwards. OK, so basically you think ftpmaste

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-05 Thread Stephen Stafford
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 02:10:12PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Stephen Stafford] > > We have a commitment that everything in Debian main is Free. Since > > the RFC license is NOT Free, it can't be in main. This does NOT > > imply anything about the usefulness of RFCs, merely about their

Re: Debconf or not debconf : Conclusion

2003-07-05 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 05:05:01PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > The point of decoupling installation and configuration is to let the admin > choose which of these scenarios happen, instead of the distribution or > the maintainer. The first is appropriate if you're doing installs of many > systems

Re: Close old RFP/ITPs?

2003-07-05 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003, Andreas Barth wrote: > is it usefull/ok to close old RFP/ITP-entrys? "old" means for me more > than year since the last mail for ITP, and 2 years for RFP. Of course > I would write mail first whether the package is still wanted I do not think old RFPs should be closed, at

Re: Close old RFP/ITPs?

2003-07-05 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 5 Jul 2003 14:05:55 +0200, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >is it usefull/ok to close old RFP/ITP-entrys? "old" means for me more >than year since the last mail for ITP, and 2 years for RFP. Of course >I would write mail first whether the package is still wanted or if the >packagin

Close old RFP/ITPs?

2003-07-05 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi, is it usefull/ok to close old RFP/ITP-entrys? "old" means for me more than year since the last mail for ITP, and 2 years for RFP. Of course I would write mail first whether the package is still wanted or if the packaging is still in order, and only close if no answer for a month. Comments? C

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-05 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Stephen Stafford] > We have a commitment that everything in Debian main is Free. Since > the RFC license is NOT Free, it can't be in main. This does NOT > imply anything about the usefulness of RFCs, merely about their > Freedom. There seem to be two ways of interpreting the social contract. O

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Andreas Barth
* Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030705 12:05]: > On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 11:08:04AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > * Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030705 10:50]: > > > On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 04:51:49PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > > > > Additionally, I would like to seriously propose establ

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 5 Jul 2003 10:43:35 +0100, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >That's pointless, I think. If I were an ftpmaster I would not be willing >to render an opinion on a package before I actually saw the package, >especially if I were going to be held to that opinion later (and, if I >wasn't,

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 5 Jul 2003 11:48:24 +0200, Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Is there a copy somewhere else? Yes. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 10:14:10 +0200, Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Marc Haber wrote: >> Because it makes debugging anti-virus software harder, and forces >> maintainers of anti-virus packages to have their own means of >> obtaining eicar.com for testing purposes >Debugging anti-virus s

Bug#200142: ITP: tkgamma -- A simple color calibration utility for XFree86-4

2003-07-05 Thread Neil McGovern
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-05 Severity: wishlist * Package name: tkgamma Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : Pixel Fairy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://pixel.fairyden.net/tkgamma/ * License : GPL Description : A simple color c

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Michael Banck
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 09:26:17AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > How would you react if somebody called work you did and that took a > few hours "silly"? And Mr. Troup's appreciation of my work is > appropriately named in the directory name the package sits in at the > moment. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/org/

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 11:08:04AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030705 10:50]: > > On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 04:51:49PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > > > Additionally, I would like to seriously propose establishing a > > > pre-upload interface to ftpmaster so that a

Re: Package Moscow ML and HOL

2003-07-05 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 05:36:30PM +0800, ZHAO Wei wrote: > On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 14:47, Ralf Treinen wrote: > > I remember vaguely that there used to be a licence problem with > > Moscow ML. What is its exact licence now? > > Under the mosml/copyright directory, there are three license files: >

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Andreas Barth
* Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030705 10:50]: > On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 04:51:49PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > > Additionally, I would like to seriously propose establishing a > > pre-upload interface to ftpmaster so that a developer could learn that > > he is writing a package pending rejecti

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-05 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 02:30:47PM -0500, Chad Walstrom wrote: > On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 07:36:13PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > Bullshit. It is common for RFCs to be revised over time, and > > formulated into new documents. This license prohibits agencies other > > than the IETF from revising

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Andreas Barth
* Thomas Viehmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030705 09:35]: > Marc Haber wrote: > >>Well that's the purpose of ITP-bugs against wnpp I think, because > >>they are CC'd to debian-devel for public review. > > Please show me a single ITP bug number where ftpmaster has said "this > > package will not go into

Processed: reassign 199197 to libgnome2-common

2003-07-05 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > reassign 199197 libgnome2-common Bug#199197: bsdgames debian X menu entries depend on gnome-terminal, not in testing (Sarge) Bug reassigned from package `general' to `libgnome2-common'. > End of message, stopping processing here. Please contact me if

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 04:51:49PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > It is my opinion that it would be a good idea to have that installer > package in Debian. Heck, if I wouldn't have that opinion, I wouldn't > have spent some of my time to build that package. > > Additionally, I would like to seriously

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Marc Haber wrote: > Because it makes debugging anti-virus software harder, and forces > maintainers of anti-virus packages to have their own means of > obtaining eicar.com for testing purposes Debugging anti-virus software should be done by the maintainers thereof. Why would a user need this? > Sa

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Ben Burton
> How would you react if somebody called work you did and that took a > few hours "silly"? In the sweetest way possible, if all you lost was a few hours then I don't see why you're (apparently) so very upset. Many times I have seen contributions worth days or weeks of work dismissed from softwar

Re: but I want the GNU versions of packages

2003-07-05 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 16:05:39 +0100, James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Given the current state of affairs, I am pretty sure that such a >> package will be rejected by ftpmaster. They pretty sure reject almost >> everything I upload. > >Since you didn't

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Marc Haber wrote: >>Well that's the purpose of ITP-bugs against wnpp I think, because >>they are CC'd to debian-devel for public review. > Please show me a single ITP bug number where ftpmaster has said "this > package will not go into the archive, I will reject it on upload". There's numerous ITPs

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