Re: Woody KDE 3 packages

2003-07-06 Thread Shaun Jackman
Yes! Thanks. I didn't know of the apt-cache policy command. Because the Release file was broken upstream, apt assigned it a priority of -1. I added the following lines to apt/preferences: Package: * Pin: origin download.kde.org Pin-Priority: 951 Thanks, Shaun > Blind shot: > > $ apt-cache pol

Re: Debconf or not debconf : Conclusion

2003-07-06 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 04:49:19PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > If I ever add filtering to the notes debconf allows to be displayed, > notes that refer the user to README.Debian will be at the top of the > list to never be displayed. > > Of course, I am much more likely to bow to the pressure of note

Re: Debconf or not debconf : Conclusion

2003-07-06 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 02:36:24PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > [...] > This upstream change makes no sense from a usability standpoint; this new > stunnel package would be pretty useless to me, and I wouldn't want to have it > automatically installed on my systems if I were using the previous, w

Re: A success story with apt and rsync

2003-07-06 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 01:01:34AM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > > > I believe htree == dir_index, so tune2fs(8) and mke2fs(8) have the answer. > > My /home has that enabled and readdir() returns files in creation order. > Then you don't have a htree-capable kernel or the directory isn't in

Re: A success story with apt and rsync

2003-07-06 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 11:36:34PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > I can only presume this is new or obscure, since everything I tried > had the traditional behaviour. Can't see how to turn it on, either. > It's new for 2.5. Backports to 2.4 are available here: http://thunk.org/tytso

Re: NEWS.Debian support is here

2003-07-06 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 08:01:38PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Scott James Remnant wrote: > > Is there any particular reason to keep the "unstable; urgency=low" > > there? It's duplication of information in the changelog, and nearly > > every developer will probably forget to change the information

Re: A success story with apt and rsync

2003-07-06 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 07:28:09PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 11:36:34PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 05:48:24PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > > Err, no. If the htree (hash tree) indexing feature is turned on for > > > ext2 or ext3 file

Re: NEWS.Debian support is here

2003-07-06 Thread Joey Hess
Scott James Remnant wrote: > Is there any particular reason to keep the "unstable; urgency=low" > there? It's duplication of information in the changelog, and nearly > every developer will probably forget to change the information in > NEWS.Debian when they change the urgency or distribution in ch

Re: A success story with apt and rsync

2003-07-06 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 11:36:34PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 05:48:24PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > Err, no. If the htree (hash tree) indexing feature is turned on for > > ext2 or ext3 filesystems, they will returned sorted by the hash of the > > filename --- eff

Re: Close old RFP/ITPs?

2003-07-06 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Andreas Barth] > So I think this is fair enough and if neither the original requester > nor any reader of debian-wnpp sees need for a package it really > doesn't need to be packaged any more. I have several packages which I am interested in getting packaged, but I am neither the requester nor a r

Re: Juridical prosecution

2003-07-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Please, please, please: mention this post on debian weekly news. Is really worth the effort! -- Stefano Zacchiroli -- Master in Computer Science @ Uni. Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED],debian.org,bononia.it} - http://www.bononia.it/zack/ " I know you believe you understood what you think I s

Re: A success story with apt and rsync

2003-07-06 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 05:48:24PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 10:12:03PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 10:28:07PM +0200, Koblinger Egmont wrote: > > > Yes, when saying "random order" I obviously ment "in the order readdir() > > > returns them".

Re: A success story with apt and rsync

2003-07-06 Thread Koblinger Egmont
On Sun, 6 Jul 2003, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On ext2, as an example, stat()ting or open()ing a directory of 1 > files in the order returned by readdir() will be vastly quicker than > in some other sequence (like, say, bytewise lexicographic) due to the > way in which the filesystem looks up i

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-06 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 02:07:14PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > b) people at debian-legal do not keep people at debian-doc up-to-date to > > latest consensus wrt to documentation licensing (yes, until somebody who is > > at -doc says "please RTFM" and somebody at -legal says "TFM is worthless

Bug#200268: general: .dpkg-dist and .dpkg-old files in cron.* and modutils dirs

2003-07-06 Thread Csillag Tamas
Package: general Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-06 Severity: normal Hi! Problem: I have a laptop system, I recently upgraded to sarge (from woody) and I noticed the following problem: I moved some script from /etc/cron.daily to /etc/cron.weekly (to save power) But when dpkg asked me whet

Re: A success story with apt and rsync

2003-07-06 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 10:12:03PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 10:28:07PM +0200, Koblinger Egmont wrote: > > Yes, when saying "random order" I obviously ment "in the order readdir() > > returns them". It's random for me. :-))) > > > > It can easily be different on diff

Re: A success story with apt and rsync

2003-07-06 Thread Koblinger Egmont
Hi, On 6 Jul 2003, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > 2. most of the time you have no old file to rsync against. Only > mirrors will have an old file and they already use rsync. This is definitely true if you install your system from CD's and then upgrade it. However, if you keep on upgrading from testin

Re: Bug#200153: ITP: e2tools -- utilities for manipulating files in an ext2/ext3 filesystem

2003-07-06 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 11:57:35PM +0200, Falk Hueffner wrote: > Ralf Treinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > E2tools is a simple set of GPL'ed utilities to read, write, and > > > manipulate files in an ext2/ext3 filesystem. > > > > please excuse my ignorance - what would be the advantage of the

Re: NEWS.Debian support is here

2003-07-06 Thread David B Harris
On Sun Jul 06, 04:58pm -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 04:31:22PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 07:13:23PM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote: > > > Would this work just as well? > > > [example without distribution and urgency] > > > > It would wo

Re: A success story with apt and rsync

2003-07-06 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 10:28:07PM +0200, Koblinger Egmont wrote: > > On Sun, 6 Jul 2003, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > > It should put them in the package in the order they came from > > readdir(), which will depend on the filesystem. This is normally the > > order in which they were created, and s

Re: NEWS.Debian support is here

2003-07-06 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 04:31:22PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 07:13:23PM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote: > > Would this work just as well? > > [example without distribution and urgency] > > It would work just as well. The changelog format was used unmodified for > p

Re: A success story with apt and rsync

2003-07-06 Thread Koblinger Egmont
On Sun, 6 Jul 2003, Andrew Suffield wrote: > It should put them in the package in the order they came from > readdir(), which will depend on the filesystem. This is normally the > order in which they were created, and should not vary when > rebuilding. As such, sorting the list probably doesn't c

Re: NEWS.Debian support is here

2003-07-06 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 07:13:23PM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote: > On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 06:01, Joey Hess wrote: > > > The file format is the same as a debian changelog file, but we leave off the > > asterisks generally, and use bigger paragraphs explaining news items when > > necessary. It m

Re: Juridical prosecution

2003-07-06 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Leandro GuimarÃes Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: > On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 17:57:07 +0200, Martin Sobek wrote: >>You place your page on address www.sobek-sobek.com unlawfully! Remove it >>immediately or you risk juridical prosecution. > And the cluelessness Oscar this year goes too... Mr Sobek! Oh,

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-06 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Marc Haber wrote: > On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 15:00:18 +0200, Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >>As far as the eicar license is concerned: Is it really that difficult to >>obtain >>a statement from eicar on whether or not they believe that the test file is >>copyrightable and maybe a gene

Re: Juridical prosecution

2003-07-06 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 09:52:06PM +0200, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: > On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 17:57:07 +0200, Martin Sobek wrote: > > > You place your page on address www.sobek-sobek.com unlawfully! Remove it > > immediately or you risk juridical prosecution. > > And the cl

Re: Debconf and XFree86 X servers

2003-07-06 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 01:09:21AM +0200, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > [Please direct any XFree86-specific followup to debian-x.] > > > > On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 08:46:00AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > > Yet another reasons for wanting to decoupl

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-06 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 12:23:16PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > Could you please point to the discussion you mention that makes that > content out of date? I thought I pretty much cover all the -legal > discussions to date at > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/ddp-policy/footnote

Re: NEWS.Debian support is here

2003-07-06 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 06:01, Joey Hess wrote: > The file format is the same as a debian changelog file, but we leave off the > asterisks generally, and use bigger paragraphs explaining news items when > necessary. It might be a good idea to run your file through > dpkg-parsechangelog to check its

Re: Bug#200153: ITP: e2tools -- utilities for manipulating files in an ext2/ext3 filesystem

2003-07-06 Thread Robert Millan
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 11:35:29PM +0200, Ralf Treinen wrote: > On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 05:24:21PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > > > > E2tools is a simple set of GPL'ed utilities to read, write, and manipulate > > files in an ext2/ext3 filesystem. > > please excuse my ignorance - what would be th

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-06 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 15:00:18 +0200, Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >As far as the eicar license is concerned: Is it really that difficult to obtain >a statement from eicar on whether or not they believe that the test file is >copyrightable and maybe a general permission to distribute th

Re: Resolvconf -- a package to manage /etc/resolv.conf

2003-07-06 Thread Thomas Hood
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 01:52, Nick Phillips wrote: > Actually I think the simplest form would be to have /etc/resolvconf/notify.d > and run all scripts in there at the relevant times, with any necessary > arguments (which would be standard). Please take a look at how resolvconf runs the scripts in

Re: A success story with apt and rsync

2003-07-06 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 12:37:00PM +1200, Corrin Lakeland wrote: > > 4. (and this is the knockout) rsync support for apt-get is NO > > WANTED. rsync uses too much resources (cpu and more relevant IO) on > > the server side and a widespread use of rsync for apt-get would choke > > the rsync mirrors

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-06 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Marc Haber wrote: > On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 11:03:37 +0200, Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >>*Look* at #198311 and search for debian-devel and then ask yourself why Marc >>thinks that -devel should only be used as a forum to discredit ftpmasters >>work, >>and not as a place where ITPs sh

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-06 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 11:03:37 +0200, Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >*Look* at #198311 and search for debian-devel and then ask yourself why Marc >thinks that -devel should only be used as a forum to discredit ftpmasters work, >and not as a place where ITPs should be reviewed. That was

Re: Resolvconf -- a package to manage /etc/resolv.conf

2003-07-06 Thread Thomas Hood
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 12:42, Eduard Bloch wrote: > Please, would you consider to add another feature: priorising some > entries depending on the source. That means: > > pppoeconf's and pppconfig's script run the tool with parameter "--class > dialup", dhcp clients with "--class dynamic" and the de

Re: Resolvconf -- a package to manage /etc/resolv.conf

2003-07-06 Thread Thomas Hood
> On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 12:13, Thomas Hood wrote: > > No, I meant that before entering the Debian archive it would > > be nice if resolvconf were supported by all packages that > > currently futz with /etc/resolv.conf, including pump and bind. > Which other packages? I guess I need to explain more

Re: Resolvconf -- a package to manage /etc/resolv.conf

2003-07-06 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Thomas Hood [Sat, Jul 05 2003, 09:51:56PM]: > Summary > ~~~ > Resolvconf is a proposed standard framework for updating the > system's information about currently available nameservers. > > Most importantly, it manages /etc/resolv.conf , but it does > a bit more than that. The Ide

Re: A success story with apt and rsync

2003-07-06 Thread Jonathan Oxer
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 09:27, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > 4. (and this is the knockout) rsync support for apt-get is NO > WANTED. rsync uses too much resources (cpu and more relevant IO) on > the server side and a widespread use of rsync for apt-get would choke > the rsync mirrors and do more harm tha

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-06 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 07:30:56PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 07:47:32PM +0200, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > > Andrew Suffield wrote: > > >>people to > > >>http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/ddp-policy/ch-common.en.html. > > > This claims the GNU FDL is acceptable, so it'

Re: Resolvconf -- a package to manage /etc/resolv.conf

2003-07-06 Thread Thomas Hood
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 01:32, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jul 05, Thomas Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >* Before entering the Debian archive it would be nice if resolvconf > > were supported by all packages that currently futz with > > /etc/resolv.conf, including pump and bind. > If you mean t

Re: Resolvconf -- a package to manage /etc/resolv.conf

2003-07-06 Thread Thomas Hood
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 01:00, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > You should think of a mechanism for daemons to get notified about > changes in resolv.conf. There is already such a mechanism. See below. > Like providing a function to register a script > and a list of arguments (like the PID of the program

Re: Resolvconf -- a package to manage /etc/resolv.conf

2003-07-06 Thread Thomas Hood
On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 22:40, Simon Hürlimann wrote: > I'd prefer update-resolv like > update-alternatives update-initrd > update-catalog update-ispell-dictionary > update-default-aspell update-menus > update-default-ispell update-mime > to name j

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-06 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Andreas Barth wrote: > * Thomas Viehmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030705 23:50]: > >>So why is the recommendation against skipping the ITP to aviod problems in >>ftpmaster review "not right"? > A (strong) recommendation for doing ITPs right is right and usefull. > But - all foreseeable problems should

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-06 Thread Andreas Barth
* Thomas Viehmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030705 23:50]: > So why is the recommendation against skipping the ITP to aviod problems in > ftpmaster review "not right"? A (strong) recommendation for doing ITPs right is right and usefull. But - all foreseeable problems should be handeled at ITP-time, and

Re: Juridical prosecution

2003-07-06 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 17:57:07 +0200, Martin Sobek wrote: > You place your page on address www.sobek-sobek.com unlawfully! Remove it > immediately or you risk juridical prosecution. And the cluelessness Oscar this year goes too... Mr Sobek! -- _ / \ Leandro GuimarÃes Faria Corsetti Dut

VIRUS EN SU CORREO

2003-07-06 Thread webmaster
A L E R T V I R U S Nuestro antivirus ha encontrado W32/Sobig.E virus(es) en su correo dirigido a los siguientes destinatario(s): -> [EMAIL PROTECTED] La entrega del mensaje ha sido detenida! Por favor, compruebe la presencia de virus en sus

Re: Debconf or not debconf : Conclusion

2003-07-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 03:24:57PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 02:28:33PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > Yet another reasons for wanting to decouple installation and > > > configuration is if some hardware company (such as VA^H^H Emperor > > > Linux) wishes to ship Deb

Re: Debconf or not debconf : Conclusion

2003-07-06 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 02:28:33PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Yet another reasons for wanting to decouple installation and > > configuration is if some hardware company (such as VA^H^H Emperor > > Linux) wishes to ship Debian pre-installed on the system. In that > > case, installation happen