Re: Hardcoding of .la file paths in .la files

2003-10-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 03:54:08PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 10:57:38AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 03:21:50AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > > I'm coming into this thread very late, with what may be a stupid > > > question, but can anyone te

Re: Which packages will hold up the release?

2003-10-11 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 12:01:11AM +0200, Bj?rn Stenberg wrote: > Steve Langasek wrote: > > Ok. BTW, are you taking into account the possibility of a package being > > uninstallable due to versioned Conflicts, and Conflicts between packages > > which otherwise satisfy a package's dependencies? >

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2003-10-11 Thread Martin Pitt
Hello everybody! Today I read about the upcoming architecture for kernel device files [1]. devfs is already marked obsolete (what a pity, I really like it...) and will be replaced by an userspace daemon udev. This daemon and also other userspace programs rely on libsysfs which provides a consiste

Re: Bug#215127: ITP: azureus -- a java bittorrent client

2003-10-11 Thread Arne Schwabe
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Azureus is a java bittorrent client. It provides a quite full >> bittorrent protocol implementation using java language. > > How does it differ from the python implementation from the bittorrent > package? The most important difference (imo) are

Re: language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-11 Thread Jochen Voss
Hi, On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 04:20:34PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > So Debian users in Angola or East Timor would have to click on either > "South America" or "Europe" to be shown a Portuguese language option, > since there are currently no d-i translators for either of these > locales? Yes, I s

Re: specifying which IP addresses can send mail for a domain

2003-10-11 Thread Joel Baker
On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 03:09:54PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > Joel, can you please provide information on the experimental method for > specifying which IP addresses may be used to send mail from a particular > domain? The one I personally like best, at the moment, is Paul Vixie's proposal (d

Re: Help needed: builds eating all memory

2003-10-11 Thread Adam Majer
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 04:00:34PM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote: >My openvrml packages have been failing to build on arm [1], mips [2] > and mipsel [3] for some time. From the build logs, it looks like g++ is > eating all the memory and the OOM killer kills it. > >What can I do? Ask the buildd

Re: Which packages will hold up the release?

2003-10-11 Thread Björn Stenberg
Steve Langasek wrote: > Ok. BTW, are you taking into account the possibility of a package being > uninstallable due to versioned Conflicts, and Conflicts between packages > which otherwise satisfy a package's dependencies? I have now added versioned conflict scanning and also checking for package

Re: language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 09:14:56PM +0100, Jochen Voss wrote: > On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 02:13:33PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > > One posts suggested that fr_FR would be on the lists for both America > > and Asia. Portuguese is spoken on four continents, and I think the > > Brazilian Portuguese

Re: language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-11 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 12:35:24PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: > On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 06:04:32PM +0200, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > 2. Debian (official) should ship language chooser with: > > * Priority order list: C > > List C (en_US) as top and the rest alphabetically listed > > en_U

Re: Hardcoding of .la file paths in .la files

2003-10-11 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 10:57:38AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 03:21:50AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > I'm coming into this thread very late, with what may be a stupid > > question, but can anyone tell me if the breakage could be avoided by > > just deleting the .la files

Re: Hardcoding of .la file paths in .la files

2003-10-11 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 06:06:11AM -0600, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > > Me too. The actual problem seems to have been causing by a behavior of > > ldconfig that we almost never see because we tend to ship library > > packages with lib$SONAME.so.$SOVERSION symbolic links already in the > > pac

Re: language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-11 Thread Jochen Voss
Hello, On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 02:13:33PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > One posts suggested that fr_FR would be on the lists for both America > and Asia. Portuguese is spoken on four continents, and I think the > Brazilian Portuguese translations are sufficiently complete that many > other Portu

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Re: language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 07:09:56PM +0100, Jochen Voss wrote: > Hi, > On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 12:33:28PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > Sort using what locale? > > How many users know the locale name of their language? > > Sorting has big problems. > What about grouping by continent and only > sorti

Re: language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-11 Thread Jochen Voss
Hi, On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 12:33:28PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Sort using what locale? > > How many users know the locale name of their language? > > Sorting has big problems. What about grouping by continent and only sorting within these groups? This would be comprehensible by the user and l

Re: language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-11 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 07:20:58PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > I'm sure it'd be nice to educate users on every little bit of technology > > running their computer, but users simply shouldn't need to know what > > "en_US" means, and "English (United States)" makes a lot more sense. > > Well,

Re: Hardcoding of .la file paths in .la files

2003-10-11 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 03:21:50AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > I'm coming into this thread very late, with what may be a stupid > > question, but can anyone tell me if the breakage could be avoided by > > just deleting the .la files in question? > > Yes, it can. I've advoc

Re: Help needed: builds eating all memory

2003-10-11 Thread Marc Singer
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 04:00:34PM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote: >My openvrml packages have been failing to build on arm [1], mips [2] > and mipsel [3] for some time. From the build logs, it looks like g++ is > eating all the memory and the OOM killer kills it. > >What can I do? Ask the buildd

Re: language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-11 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 12:56:29PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: > I'm sure it'd be nice to educate users on every little bit of technology > running their computer, but users simply shouldn't need to know what > "en_US" means, and "English (United States)" makes a lot more sense. Well, it is a long

Re: language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-11 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 06:36:45PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > If they dont know, then using debian will educate them right there in this > point. But besides that, since the locale name is not too far away from the > language name in most cases, I dont think anybody has problems with that. I'

Bug#215265: ITP: tla-buildpackage -- Program to assist building Debian packages from tla repositories

2003-10-11 Thread John Goerzen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: tla-buildpackage Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : n/a * License : GPL Description : Program to assist building Debian packages from tla repositories tla-buildpacka

Re: language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-11 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 12:33:28PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > How many users know the locale name of their language? If they dont know, then using debian will educate them right there in this point. But besides that, since the locale name is not too far away from the language name in most cases, I

Re: language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-11 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 06:04:32PM +0200, Osamu Aoki wrote: > 2. Debian (official) should ship language chooser with: > * Priority order list: C > List C (en_US) as top and the rest alphabetically listed en_US is normally UTF-8 or ISO-8859-1. "C" is ASCII. "C" is not (even roughly

Re: language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-11 Thread Paul Cupis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 11 October 2003 17:04, Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 05:02:50PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > Alphabetic on eighter the locale or the official language name for > > default debian. > > Sounds OK (but wh

Re: language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-11 Thread Joey Hess
Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 11:50:31AM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: > > Not when the entry I want is alternatively "American English", "English", or > > "US/English" ... > > thats why it is best to sort by the locale en_* Sort using what locale? How many users know the locale

Re: language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-11 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 05:02:50PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 03:18:46PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña > wrote: > > From my point of view, languagechooser should base its ordering in a very > > simple metric > > Alphabetic on eighter the locale or the officia

Re: language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-11 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 11:50:31AM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: > Not when the entry I want is alternatively "American English", "English", or > "US/English" ... thats why it is best to sort by the locale en_* Greetings Bernd -- (OO) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ( .. ) [EMAIL PROTECTED],linux

Re: Hardcoding of .la file paths in .la files

2003-10-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 03:21:50AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > I'm coming into this thread very late, with what may be a stupid > question, but can anyone tell me if the breakage could be avoided by > just deleting the .la files in question? Yes, it can. I've advocated this on a number of occasions

Re: language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-11 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 05:02:50PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > And this will not increase the combined "scan time" from all users, because > you can much easier go down a list of entries where you know you can skip > hundreds (by first letter) compared to a list which you have to go down and >

Re: Hardcoding of .la file paths in .la files

2003-10-11 Thread Joey Hess
I'm coming into this thread very late, with what may be a stupid question, but can anyone tell me if the breakage could be avoided by just deleting the .la files in question? Would libtool then find the .so files and do something sane, or would it break further? -- see shy jo signature.asc Desc

Re: language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-11 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 03:18:46PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > From my point of view, languagechooser should base its ordering in a very > simple metric Alphabetic on eighter the locale or the official language name for default debian. If debian is rebranded and possible loca

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Re: Bug#215089: ITP: gtklookat -- VRML viewer for GTK+

2003-10-11 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Fri, Oct 10, 2003, Joe Drew wrote: > > Description : VRML viewer for GTK+ > > Short description shouldn't mention the toolkit. I usually don't mention it, but in this case it is the only way to differenciate from openvrml-lookat which is the plain X11 version. -- Sam.

Help needed: builds eating all memory

2003-10-11 Thread Sam Hocevar
My openvrml packages have been failing to build on arm [1], mips [2] and mipsel [3] for some time. From the build logs, it looks like g++ is eating all the memory and the OOM killer kills it. What can I do? Ask the buildd admins to add more swap? I would be happy to cross-compile the package

Re: Hardcoding of .la file paths in .la files

2003-10-11 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Branden Robinson said: > So, let's see, I've been violated by ldconfig, libtool, and dpkg-divert > all within the past 2 days. I feel like Tera Patrick. That was a mental picture I _really_ didn't need. Thanks :) --

Is there still activity regarding a lkcdutils package?

2003-10-11 Thread Hilko Bengen
Hi, I have been tinkering around with lkcd and have been thinking about doing a lkcdutils package also. I was considering an ITP for lkcdutils until I found this entry in the BTS. Is there still any activity regarding this package? (The last message I found in the BTS is dated Sun, 18 May 2003 11

Re: Bug#215127: ITP: azureus -- a java bittorrent client

2003-10-11 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 13:37, John Hasler wrote: > Joe Drew writes: > > "Note: IRC support is not available in azureus because the library being > > used for IRC support has legal issues." > > "Note: IRC support is not available in azureus because the library being > used for that has legal proble

Re: Bug#215127: ITP: azureus -- a java bittorrent client

2003-10-11 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le ven 10/10/2003 à 18:22, Arne Schwabe a écrit : > Description : a java bittorrent client > > Azureus is a java bittorrent client. It provides a quite full > bittorrent protocol implementation using java language. How does it differ from the python implementation from the bittorrent pack

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Re: language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-11 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 09:06:06AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > > I would suggest adopting a policy for the language order. Of course, > determining the "most important" languages is a very delicate thing as > everyone would like to have his own language listed on the first page. >

Re: Bug#215127: ITP: azureus -- a java bittorrent client

2003-10-11 Thread John Hasler
Joe Drew writes: > "Note: IRC support is not available in azureus because the library being > used for IRC support has legal issues." "Note: IRC support is not available in azureus because the library being used for that has legal problems." -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elm

Re: Hardcoding of .la file paths in .la files

2003-10-11 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
> Me too. The actual problem seems to have been causing by a behavior of > ldconfig that we almost never see because we tend to ship library > packages with lib$SONAME.so.$SOVERSION symbolic links already in the > package payload. I don't want to nitpick, but the SONAME is what you are calli

Re: language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-11 Thread Brian May
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 09:06:06AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > Finding a realistic criterion would be Good, maybe. Either the most used > languages all over the world, or the languages for which Debian is most > translated (french would become first, maybe..?:-))), or something based on > dev

Re: Bug#215127: ITP: azureus -- a java bittorrent client

2003-10-11 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 09:07:39PM -0400, Joe Drew wrote: > Arne Schwabe wrote: > > Azureus is a java bittorrent client. It provides a quite full > > bittorrent protocol implementation using java language. > ^the java Also, "Java" should have the initial

Re: language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-11 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Christian Perrier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Package: language-chooser > Severity: normal #215205on languagechooser package (and not language-chooser :-)))

language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-11 Thread Christian Perrier
Package: language-chooser Severity: normal (this is tagged as normal on purpose.remember that the languagechooser menu is the very first thing one ses when installing Debian..:-)) The language order seems to be random. Hungarian first, then australian english, indian english, USA english, UK

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