Rather than argue about morality, legality, whatever, shouldn't we be
considering this in other terms - simple usefulness? Instead of asking
"why shouldn't this go into Debian?", ask "why _should_ this go into
Debian?".
We seem to have a growing and worrying trend to pick up any random
free softwa
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 11:04 +, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> pzn writes:
> >Package: wnpp
> >Severity: wishlist
> >
> >* Package name: fakepop
> > Version : 7
> > Upstream Author : Pedro Zorzenon Neto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >* URL : http://vztech.com.br/software/fakepop/
> >*
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 12:12:12PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> [Steve McIntyre]
> > So, let me get this straight - fakepop will allow people to log in
> > (using their username and password) in the clear and THEN tell them
> > that they should have used POP over SSL instead. Quite how is th
* Ron Johnson
| But vegetarians (there *must* be some vegan D-Ds) would strenuously
| oppose to images of such "horrible" treatment of animals.
It's not an animal. It's a sprite. Pixels on a screen. Cartoon.
(And yes, there are vegan DDs, but what does that have to do with it?)
--
Tollef F
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 05:17:33AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 11:04 +, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > pzn writes:
> > >Package: wnpp
> > >Severity: wishlist
> > >
> > >* Package name: fakepop
> > > Version : 7
> > > Upstream Author : Pedro Zorzenon Neto <[EMAIL P
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 05:17:33AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 11:04 +, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > So, let me get this straight - fakepop will allow people to log in
> > (using their username and password) in the clear and THEN tell them
> > that they should have used POP o
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 12:09 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> * Ron Johnson
>
> | But vegetarians (there *must* be some vegan D-Ds) would strenuously
> | oppose to images of such "horrible" treatment of animals.
>
> It's not an animal. It's a sprite. Pixels on a screen. Cartoon.
>
> (And yes,
* Steve McIntyre ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041201 12:20]:
> Rather than argue about morality, legality, whatever, shouldn't we be
> considering this in other terms - simple usefulness? Instead of asking
> "why shouldn't this go into Debian?", ask "why _should_ this go into
> Debian?".
>
> We seem to ha
Thiemo Seufer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> [snip]
>> >> - preformance penalty for repeated patching of the same package
>> >> (e.g. the zsh-beta upload every odd day)
>> >>
>> >> - compression penalty due to lots of small files instead of one big
>> >> one from g
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 05:16:16AM +0200, Sami Haahtinen wrote:
> But as for this issue, this can all be solved by replacing the babe in
> the images with a sheep, in the first pic it has all it's wool, the next
> it's partially sheared and finally fully sheared. (in case of
> overheating the im
[Matthew Palmer]
> It appears that you have missed the point.
No, I didn't miss Steve's point. I just give it less priority than
other points.
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 22:25 +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 05:17:33AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 11:04 +, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > > So, let me get this straight - fakepop will allow people to log in
> > > (using their username and password) in
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 12:09:12 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen writes:
>* Ron Johnson
>
>| But vegetarians (there *must* be some vegan D-Ds) would strenuously
>| oppose to images of such "horrible" treatment of animals.
>
>It's not an animal. It's a sprite. Pixels on a screen. Cartoon.
>
>(And yes, there
Ron Johnson writes:
>On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 22:25 +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote:
>>
>> So I can put "All your mail is belong to us" in my /etc/fakepop/ directory,
>> so that people know that their passwords *have* been successfully sent in
>> the clear before being told to reconfigure their mail clie
* Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041201 12:40]:
> On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 22:25 +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 05:17:33AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 11:04 +, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > > > So, let me get this straight - fakepop will allow peop
"Jaldhar H. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, 30 Nov 2004, Andres Salomon wrote:
>
>> Er. What? Since when does religion have anything to do w/ the
>> anti-slavery movement?
>>
>
> Exactly. For instance "Mine eyes haves seen the glory of the coming of
> the Lord," the anthem of the ab
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
>
>
> * Package name: mediawiki
> Version : 1.3.5
> Upstream Author : Mediawiki developers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http://wikipedia.sourceforge.net/
> * License : GPL
> Description : Wikipedia wiki engine
>
> Medi
On Wednesday 01 December 2004 18:41, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > You could. However there is no sign of a repeat of that now so it's less
> > of an issue. The actions of the crusaders bear many similarities to what
> > is happeni
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 11:36 +, Dave Holland wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 05:16:16AM +0200, Sami Haahtinen wrote:
> > But as for this issue, this can all be solved by replacing the babe in
> > the images with a sheep, in the first pic it has all it's wool, the next
> > it's partially shear
* Ron Johnson
| *No*, that's *not* true. The thought (well mine, at least) is,
| "not in main, not on Disk 1".
What's on the first CD is decided by popcon. If you continue to pimp
hot-babe as you are doing in this thread, it might very easily end up
there.
--
Tollef Fog Heen
* jaromil
| in case you are an arrogant person (i don't mean you are, i just don't
| know you at all) then consider that the GNU FDL license applied to the
| manual and documentation of hasciicam requires: the Invariant Sections
| being NAME, SYNOPSIS, DESCRIPTION, AUTHOR
In that case, I think y
* Matthew Palmer
| It appears that you have missed the point. One of the primary reasons why
| you would use pops rather than pop3 (I presume) is so that your
| authentication credentials aren't sent in the clear. This daemon allows the
| user to send their credentials en clair before telling t
On Dec 01 2004, s. keeling wrote:
> A couple of them have replied to mine, mentioning that woody's old as
> dirt, and they're up to their eyeballs trying to bring sarge to
> stable. 'Sounds like a fairly reasonable excuse to me. I don't
> begrudge them that.
But the fact is that I *am* using tes
El Miércoles 01 Diciembre 2004 07:10, Ron Johnson escribió:
> > Which goes by the name (and flag) of "Red Crescent" in Arabic countries
> > as they still have not forgotten or forgiven what the crusaders did while
> > carrying a flag with a red cross on a white background.
>
> The point is that rel
Hello.
Sven Luther:
> No the real solution to this is to have the archive software accept
> multiple copies of a same package, and not remove the older arch:all
> packages when there are still arch:any package from the same source
> package in the archive.
But the original problem (from debian-g
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: elizatalk
Version : 0.4
Upstream Author : Duane Fields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://elizatalk.sf.net
* License : GPL
Description : talk program like emacs psychatrist
Elizatalk is a talkback program
Re: jaromil in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> in case you are an arrogant person (i don't mean you are, i just don't
> know you at all) then consider that the GNU FDL license applied to the
> manual and documentation of hasciicam requires: the Invariant Sections
> being NAME, SYNOPSIS, DESCRIPTION, AUTHOR
Hello.
Ron Johnson:
> If Disk 1 has hot-babe on it, I couldn't give it
> to Dick or Jane the 13 year old neighborhood geeks.
If Disk 1 has hot-babe on it, then hot-babe is one of the most popular
(most wanted) packages. I'd rather have Disk 1 more usable for Debian
users than more suited for giv
Hi all,
I read all the thread and I noted you are forgeting a main problem about
this package. In my point of view:
First of all, it's a sexist package, sure. Putting a program on Debian
in which you have pictures of nude women is VERY agressive to the most
women. Yes, it's agressive to me.
One
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 13:16:11 -0200, Fernanda Giroleti Weiden
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> We need to discuss this point and find a technical way of solving the
> first.
...
Years ago (MSDOS 5 days) I was writing a work-group computing series
for Datapro; the Microsoft representative I had been
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 16:25 +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 07:55:59PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > The problem is the following: is the e100 driver available in all kernel
> > flavours/versions ?
> > If yes, then it is safe to blacklist it in hotplug directly.
> > If not
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On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 03:43:29PM +0100, Christoph Berg wrote:
> Re: jaromil in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > in case you are an arrogant person (i don't mean you are, i just don't
> > know you at all) then consider that the GNU FDL license applied to the
>
El Miércoles 01 Diciembre 2004 16:44, jaromil escribió:
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> On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 03:43:29PM +0100, Christoph Berg wrote:
> > Re: jaromil in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > in case you are an arrogant person (i don't mean you are, i just don't
> > >
Hi all,
Hi all,
I read all the thread and I noted you are forgeting a main problem about
this package. In my point of view:
First of all, it's a sexist package, sure. Putting a program on Debian
in which you have pictures of nude women is VERY agressive to the most
women. Yes, it's agressive to me
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On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 03:43:29PM +0100, Christoph Berg wrote:
> Re: jaromil in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > in case you are an arrogant person (i don't mean you are, i just don't
> > know you at all) then consider that the GNU FDL license applied to the
On Sunday 31 October 2004 13:02, Frank S. Thomas wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
>
>
> * Package name: kboincspy
> Upstream Author : Roberto A. Virga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/kboincspy/
> * License : GPL
> Description
Am 2004-11-30 00:31:57, schrieb Thibaut VARENE:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
>
> * Package name: hot-babe
> Description : a rather erotic graphical system activity monitor
>
> hot-babe is a small graphical utility which display the system activity in a
> very special way. W
Am 2004-11-30 18:17:37, schrieb Ron Johnson:
> However, I'd be *highly* agitated if someone gave my daughter a
> CD-ROM with *any* nudy cartoons.
Agreed.
Greetings
Michelle
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* jaromil
| On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 03:43:29PM +0100, Christoph Berg wrote:
|
| > May I suggest to move the package to non-free then?
|
| may i suggest to move the package out of Debian then?
Non-free is not Debian, so that's exactly what will happen.
| now please you all take a breath and sto
Am 2004-12-01 12:30:11, schrieb Cesar Martinez Izquierdo:
> IMHO, we really can't exclude all the programs that *MAY BE* illegal in some
> country. We should only exclude when there is an actual legal threaten.
Nudity and pornographi is illegalö in more the 80 countries
and this you tell "some"
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Am 2004-12-01 13:20:15, schrieb Tollef Fog Heen:
> * Ron Johnson
>
> | *No*, that's *not* true. The thought (well mine, at least) is,
> | "not in main, not on Disk 1".
>
> What's on the first CD is decided by popcon. If you continue to pimp
> hot-babe as you are doing in this thread, it might
Ufff...
Hello Fernanda,
Am 2004-12-01 13:16:11, schrieb Fernanda Giroleti Weiden:
> Hi all,
> I read all the thread and I noted you are forgeting a main problem about
> this package. In my point of view:
>
> First of all, it's a sexist package, sure. Putting a program on Debian
> in which you
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:34:34 +0100
Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am 2004-11-30 00:31:57, schrieb Thibaut VARENE:
> > Package: wnpp
> > Severity: wishlist
> >
> > * Package name: hot-babe
>
> > Description : a rather erotic graphical system activity monitor
> >
> > hot
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:01:06AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> Then, Disk 1 (which is very full-featured, after all) can be
>> passed out where ever and to who ever, without any fear of
>> possible problems.
>
> Hard-coding a list of "unacceptable" pac
Am 2004-12-01 11:17:19, schrieb Steve McIntyre:
> We seem to have a growing and worrying trend to pick up any random
> free software and add it to the distribution without considering
> whether it's actually useful or not...
Agreed.
Greetings
Michelle
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Am 2004-12-01 05:16:16, schrieb Sami Haahtinen:
> But as for this issue, this can all be solved by replacing the babe in
> the images with a sheep, in the first pic it has all it's wool, the next
> it's partially sheared and finally fully sheared. (in case of
> overheating the image could chang
Fernanda Giroleti Weiden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi all,
> I read all the thread and I noted you are forgeting a main problem about
> this package. In my point of view:
>
> First of all, it's a sexist package, sure. Putting a program on Debian
> in which you have pictures of nude women is VE
Am 2004-12-01 04:13:18, schrieb Ron Johnson:
> > I hope nobody objects to animal nudity.
>
> You know, my son would think it's great...
>
> But vegetarians (there *must* be some vegan D-Ds) would strenuously
> oppose to images of such "horrible" treatment of animals.
ROFL
Greetings
Michelle
-
"Shot (Piotr Szotkowski)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello.
>
> Sven Luther:
>
>> No the real solution to this is to have the archive software accept
>> multiple copies of a same package, and not remove the older arch:all
>> packages when there are still arch:any package from the same source
>>
Guten Abend Andreas,
Am 2004-12-01 10:37:14, schrieb Andreas Tille:
> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004, Thomas Bushnell BSG ... and many other wrote:
> >[something about hot-babes, porn etc]
> So what about my Spam Filter?
> Should I agree with it that this is Spam from my fellow Debian developers?
> Or shoul
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 06:12:21PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
>
> Am 2004-12-01 13:16:11, schrieb Fernanda Giroleti Weiden:
> >
> > First of all, it's a sexist package, sure. Putting a program on Debian
> > in which you have pictures of nude women is VERY agressive to the most
> > women. Yes
Good evening Thibaut,
Am 2004-12-01 18:15:48, schrieb Thibaut VARENE:
> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:34:34 +0100
> Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sorry, but in some countries there is pornography
> > and nudity illegal. Like arabian and persian countries.
>
> This is neither nudity n
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 09:16, Fernanda Giroleti Weiden wrote:
> Hi all,
> I read all the thread and I noted you are forgeting a main problem about
> this package. In my point of view:
>
> First of all, it's a sexist package, sure. Putting a program on Debian
> in which you have pictures of nude wom
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 01:06 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 01:58:45PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> > On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 20:26 +0100, Eric Lavarde wrote:
>> >
>> > But we should be able to pass out Debian disks to children witho
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 06:54:20PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
>
> There was a 15 years old Boy for two or three years in Iran and he
> was hanged-up because he was searchin for a program, downloaded it
> and it was containing a Dialer which had downloaded Erotic pics...
Under no sane view Deb
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 05:34:34PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> I do not like to go to prison in Iran or may be killed
> because I have such application on one of my Desktops.
If you can be killed because you have such application (picture) then
you are in big trouble, anyway.
I like to have
On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 06:17:37PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> However, I'd be *highly* agitated if someone gave my daughter a
> CD-ROM with *any* nudy cartoons.
I'd rather live with this risk than with less freedom.
Op wo, 01-12-2004 te 16:44 +0100, schreef jaromil:
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> On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 03:43:29PM +0100, Christoph Berg wrote:
> > Re: jaromil in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > in case you are an arrogant person (i don't mean you are, i just don't
> > > know yo
Helen Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I think that is the main issue here. I would like to believe that
> Debian is capable of showing more respect for other people than
> including hotbabe in the distribution would indicate.
First, I'm not saying that I personally feel that hotbabe should
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 03:30:24PM -0200, Everton da Silva Marques wrote:
> It's VERY oppressive to force hot-babe out of
> Debian because of personal feelings about nudity.
> It's pure anti-speech insanity leading the way
> to socialism.
How is this related to socialism at all ?
Frank
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Michael Dominok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 09:15, Brian Nelson wrote:
> > Through SPI's presence?
>
> Well, i didn't search _that_ long but couldn't find anything on
> http://www.spi-inc.org that would give me the Impression that this a
> Organisation only open to USAsia
Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I'm no fan of the Bush Administration's adventures, but there aren't
> > all that many similarities. The current adventure is about oil, about
> > Bush's fantasies that he's promoting democracy, and about domestic
> > American politics, especially Bus
Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004, Thomas Bushnell BSG ... and many other wrote:
> > [something about hot-babes, porn etc]
Actually, I said nothing about hot-babes or porn.
El día 01/12/2004 a 06:28 Steve McIntyre escribio ...
> Rather than argue about morality, legality, whatever, shouldn't we be
> considering this in other terms - simple usefulness? Instead of asking
> "why shouldn't this go into Debian?", ask "why _should_ this go into
> Debian?".
>
I completely
manoj, thank you. thank you thank you *smooch*.
l.
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hi Wouter,
first thanks for your explanation, a bit more exhaustive, as well to
Christian for his link to the GFDL debate (from another mail).
of course i intend to release software free as of speech, so i am
evaluating the possibility to remove the
unsubscribe me from debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Re: Carlo U. Segre in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I noticed that a number of perl packages and perl-tk in particular have
> been orphaned but they do not appear on the "wnpp" list.
>
> Is this beacause they have not been orphaned by the Maintainer himself?
Looking at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkg
Hi,
Am Mittwoch, den 01.12.2004, 15:01 -0500 schrieb Rudy Godoy:
> El da 01/12/2004 a 06:28 Steve McIntyre escribio ...
> I completely agree on this, what is the reason/usefulness to have a cpu
> monitoring program which "main feature" is to show a naked woman (or
> man)? Since there are other pro
On 30-Nov-04, 11:18 (CST), Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> *Most* who were Christians.
Most of the people in the US were Christians. Most of the slave owners
were Christians, and used the same Bible to provide justification.
If you're going to give religion credit for the anti-slaver
On 01-Dec-04, 01:16 (CST), Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday 01 December 2004 16:10, William Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 03:48:48PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
> > > they still have not forgotten or forgiven what the crusaders did while
>
Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If you're going to give religion credit for the anti-slavery movement,
> you have to blame it for the slavers as well. Which just shows what
> others in this thread have said: religion is often used to justify
> whatever behaviour/belief the individual
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 07:45:58PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> manoj, thank you. thank you thank you *smooch*.
uh? could you please elaborate a little? ;)
cheers
dom
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Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Michael Dominok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 09:15, Brian Nelson wrote:
>
>> > Through SPI's presence?
>>
>> Well, i didn't search _that_ long but couldn't find anything on
>> http://www.spi-inc.org that would give me the
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 19:57 +0100, Milan P. Stanic wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 06:17:37PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > However, I'd be *highly* agitated if someone gave my daughter a
> > CD-ROM with *any* nudy cartoons.
>
> I'd rather live with this risk than with less freedom.
Fortunately
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 08:50:08PM +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
> Even
> though we shouldn't exclude offensive packages we have the right to
> make moral judgements and try to keep the higher priorities
> content-neutral.
Moral judgements from a group as large and diverse as Debian are
guaranteed t
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 08:50:08PM +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
> Yes, hotbabe is sexist (at least in it's current incarnation - if it
> included a male theme then it would only be sexually offensive to
> some)
Anyone who feels that hot-babe would become less sexually offensive because
it included
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 04:46:18 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Put such possibly controversial matter in contrib?
No. Contrib is meant for things that depend on stuff that is
not free, and is not a dumping ground for stuff yuu do not like.
> Is contrib on
> di
Hi,
I experienced a strange behaviour when I build a debian package for
one of my C libraries. When I run 'dpkg-buildpackage -r fakeroot' the
resulting .diff.gz file has entries like the following:
--- pxlib-0.4.2.orig/debian/changelog
+++ pxlib-0.4.2/debian/changelog
@@ -1 +1,187 @@
-/usr/bin/gp
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:08:59 -0600, Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> However, pornography causes significant legal problems in the US,
> and probably moreso in many other countries. If I give a Debian CD
> containing this software to a minor, am I distributing pornography?
Hmm.
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:33:38 -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 10:32:37AM +, Tim Cutts wrote:
>> >I would ask, for this reason, that the software not be included in
>> >Debian main.
>>
>> I think this is a strong argument. But it probably also applies t
On Wednesday 01 December 2004 01:17, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 01:06 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 01:58:45PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 20:26 +0100, Eric Lavarde wrote:
> > > > Hi again,
> > > >
> > > > perhaps to bring down t
> "Joe" == Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Joe> So what are we going to do with it? Ignoring it, as many here
Joe> seems to advocate, is pretty dumb. Bashing the USA for stupid
Joe> laws doesn't solve the problem. An "Adult" debtag category
Joe> might, but then do we
Hallo Joachim,
Am 2004-12-01 21:09:26, schrieb Joachim Breitner:
> Hi,
> Well, maybe the user-friendlyness. I had a look (at the program, not
> only the picures). The blending is pretty nice. Put aside the choise of
> picutures, the program is worth having in debian as long as someone
> maintain
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:17:37 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> However, I'd be *highly* agitated if someone gave my daughter a
> CD-ROM with *any* nudy cartoons.
I Would be highly upset if anyone gave my kid a CD-ROM with
the bible, or even vi on it.
manoj
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If f
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:39:49 -0600, Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> That's also beyond the scope of this discussion. which should be
> entirely about the legal risks and obligations (if any) Debian
> undertakes when it begins distributing material that may be deemed
> pornography. -- J
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:58:45 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 20:26 +0100, Eric Lavarde wrote:
>> Hi again,
>>
>> perhaps to bring down the conversation to something more
>> constructive, I think we should base decision to have something or
>> not in Debian:
>
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 18:43:24 +0100, Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 01:06 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>>> On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 01:58:45PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>> > On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 20:26 +0100, Eric Lavarde w
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 12:57:07 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> In germany games must be rated for distribution to minors. Anything
> that didn't pay and get itself rated is automatically 18+.
> So please (NO DONT, irony) remove all games (like tetris, very
> dangerous to m
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:01:08 -0600, Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 13:26, Eric Lavarde wrote:
>> Hi again,
>>
>> perhaps to bring down the conversation to something more
>> constructive, I think we should base decision to have something or
>> not in Debian:
>> 1.
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: itagalog
Version : 0.02
Upstream Author : Ramil Sagum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://borel.slu.edu/crubadan/apps.html
* License : GPL
Description : A Tagalog dictionary for ispell
This is the Tagalog di
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:09:48 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> If my wife saw my son with these pictures on a disk that I gave him,
> she'd take a frying pan and beat me dead.
I am sure I would say the same about the bible. Hard enough
to raise a child without false gods be
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 04:45:27 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 12:30 +0100, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote:
>> El Miércoles 01 Diciembre 2004 04:22, Simon Law escribió:
>> > > But we don't care about legal problems until somebody is coming
>> > > to complain to
> "Kalle" == Kalle Kivimaa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Kalle> The problem is that Debian is about freedom of speech. If
Kalle> we start dropping packages just because they are offensive
Kalle> to somebody, we are compromising that ideal. Should we drop
Kalle> the Bible packages
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 03:30:24PM -0200, Everton da Silva Marques wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 06:12:21PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> >
> > Am 2004-12-01 13:16:11, schrieb Fernanda Giroleti Weiden:
> > >
> > > First of all, it's a sexist package, sure. Putting a program on Debian
> > >
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 18:01:46 +0100, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> And exhibitioning of naked women only is discrimination...
It was suggested in irc to provide instead pictures of male
genitalia in various stages of tumescense ...
Please feel fre to contribute to
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:23:10 -0500, William Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 12:31:57AM +0100, Thibaut VARENE wrote:
>> Of course, if you can be shocked by nudity, don't use it!
> I don't think things like this belong in the main distribution.
> It's funny and all, but
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 11:17:19 +, Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Rather than argue about morality, legality, whatever, shouldn't we
> be considering this in other terms - simple usefulness? Instead of
> asking "why shouldn't this go into Debian?", ask "why _should_ this
> go into De
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:06:12 -0500, William Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 08:51:55PM +0100, Alexander Schmehl wrote:
>> I'm not sure, how »pornography« is defined in the US and I really
>> didn't intend to join your nice discussion, but could you please
>> keep in mi
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