Hello world,
Let's take a break from talking about etch plans to talk about sarge
again, shall we?
Debian Installer RC3, kernels
-
The RC3 release of the debian-installer has been published. As Joey
Hess mentions in his announcement[0], this has been the
What are the opinions of d-d's of --as-needed?
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17287
According to this thread, the number of dependencies can sometimes
be slashed drastically.
(Of course, it would have to wait until Sarge becomes Stable.)
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#include hallo.h
* Thomas Bushnell BSG [Thu, Mar 31 2005, 06:52:24PM]:
Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That is bullshit/lies/cheating (pick one). It should be worded:
We are not willing to support his hardware just because we (at least
some of us) decided to demonstrate how can
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 02:34:44AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
What are the opinions of d-d's of --as-needed?
It's a method of working around bugs. Just fix the bugs
instead. Update libtool to the latest version and don't -l stuff you
don't need to -l.
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Hi Joey,
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 09:49:10AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
Changelog
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2005/04/01 09:47 MET
* Accepted netkit-telnet
* Investigation of netkit-telnet-ssl
* Accepted samba
Please note bug #302378, opened yesterday and still being worked on. Sorry
for not being in
* Andrew Suffield
| It's a method of working around bugs. Just fix the bugs
| instead. Update libtool to the latest version and don't -l stuff you
| don't need to -l.
pkgconfig does add a bunch of gratious -l, similar to what libtool
used to. This will be fixed, but I'm not sure I want to
Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There's also the issue of how do you clean or put a source package back
together, when it's got the patches all applied -- how do you know which
patch any modifications should go into?
Well, the easiest way would be to unpack all patches into
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 12:24:23PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
* Andrew Suffield
| It's a method of working around bugs. Just fix the bugs
| instead. Update libtool to the latest version and don't -l stuff you
| don't need to -l.
pkgconfig does add a bunch of gratious -l, similar to
Wasn't this supposed to be announced _after_ project scud took power?
Ron
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 08:31:23AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
Hi,
in the tradition of Bits[1] from the DAMs, started in January, we are
now sending another mail to inform you about recent decisions we made.
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
in the tradition of Bits[1] from the DAMs, started in January, we are
now sending another mail to inform you about recent decisions we made.
groan, it is that day of the year again...
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Le vendredi 01 avril 2005 à 02:34 -0600, Ron Johnson a écrit :
What are the opinions of d-d's of --as-needed?
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17287
According to this thread, the number of dependencies can sometimes
be slashed drastically.
I'm moving all my packages to use it.
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 12:53:27PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le vendredi 01 avril 2005 à 02:34 -0600, Ron Johnson a écrit :
What are the opinions of d-d's of --as-needed?
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17287
According to this thread, the number of dependencies can
[Cc:s trimmed. Probably should go to -dpkg]
On Friday 01 April 2005 02:12, Scott James Remnant wrote:
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 11:37 +0200, David Schmitt wrote:
To prepare the sourcecode for inspection and/or minor modifications an
additional argument for debian/rules would fit well into the
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 03:09 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 12:53:27PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le vendredi 01 avril 2005 à 02:34 -0600, Ron Johnson a écrit :
What are the opinions of d-d's of --as-needed?
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17287
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On Apr 1, 2005 7:32 AM, Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 12:24:23PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
* Andrew Suffield
| It's a method of working around bugs. Just fix the bugs
| instead. Update libtool to the latest version and don't -l stuff you
| don't
[taking to devel, per your suggestion]
also sprach Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.04.01.1546 +0200]:
I would like to work on making this happen for etch. I don't have
an implementation yet, let alone a plan for how to do it, and
I won't start work until after sarge is released, so this
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 03:48:00PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
Debian Installer RC3, kernels
-
The RC3 release of the debian-installer has been published. As Joey
Hess mentions in his announcement[0], this has been the best-tested
Debian Installer release
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 06:01:27AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
And since these are (always?) dependencies on shared objects,
these libraries never get used, except to say, Here I am!,
right?
The runtime linker still loads them, which can be expensive (esp.
if there are many relocation records),
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 12:53:27PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
I'm moving all my packages to use it. It's not only a workaround for
libtool or pkgconfig bugs, it's also a great tool when some upstream
authors gratuitously adds unneeded -l flags.
General note: you have to be careful with
martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[taking to devel, per your suggestion]
also sprach Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.04.01.1546 +0200]:
I would like to work on making this happen for etch. I don't have
an implementation yet, let alone a plan for how to do it, and
I won't start
Dear release team,
#297181 is unreproducible, and the submitter has not answered to our
questions for a while. I am quite confident that this bug is really
PEBCAK, or more specifically a local misconfiguration, or some old
locally installed Emacs lisp files lying around.
I do not think that
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 03:09:13AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 12:53:27PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le vendredi 01 avril 2005 à 02:34 -0600, Ron Johnson a écrit :
What are the opinions of d-d's of --as-needed?
* Gustavo Franco
| I agree, but are we tracking all these post-sarge issues that are
| coming on d-d and others lists? I hope that after sarge we start
| working on these issues before etch came closer.
I'm doing a rebuild of sarge with a changed pkg-config now, to see
what breaks.
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On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 16:32:25 +0200, Bill Allombert wrote:
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 03:48:00PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
Debian Installer RC3, kernels
-
The RC3 release of the debian-installer has been published. As Joey
Hess mentions in his announcement[0],
On Apr 1, 2005 1:58 PM, Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Gustavo Franco
| I agree, but are we tracking all these post-sarge issues that are
| coming on d-d and others lists? I hope that after sarge we start
| working on these issues before etch came closer.
I'm doing a rebuild
Hi,
how can I find out why a package was removed from testing? I tried to
find this out for wwwoffle, and looked at
- its resolved bugs (no indication)
- its open bugs (one RC, but worked on)
- ftp.debian.org's bugs: nothing
- Search on debian-release: nothing.
Where else can I look?
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 07:28:35PM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote:
Hi,
how can I find out why a package was removed from testing? I tried to
find this out for wwwoffle, and looked at
This type of information is unfortunately not readily available, you can
find it in some ftp-master logfiles
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 16:50:20 +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
I think we need to establish a header format policy, and I suggest
something similar to debian/control, e.g.
#!/bin/sh -e
# init.d script for sshd
#
#% Depends: network, iptables
#
if $1 ...
This has been
* Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-04-01 19:28]:
- its open bugs (one RC, but worked on)
http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/hints/vorlon contains
# bug #295060
remove wwwoffle/2.8e-1
So, yes, because of an RC bug.
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Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 07:28:35PM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote:
- its open bugs (one RC, but worked on)
Right, but open for 47 days already. If for this amount of days an RC
bug is open and nobody seems to have cared enough to fix it or even
Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-04-01 19:28]:
- its open bugs (one RC, but worked on)
http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/hints/vorlon contains
# bug #295060
remove wwwoffle/2.8e-1
So, yes, because of an RC bug.
Is it not usual practice
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At http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#severities, grave is glossed as:
makes the package in question unusable or mostly so, or causes
data loss, or introduces a security hole allowing access to the
accounts of users who use
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 08:00:19PM +0200, Frank Kster wrote:
Is it not usual practice to send a note about this to the bug? I think
this would be a good idea, both for documentation purposes, and to wake
up lazy maintainers.
No, maintainers have to know about there bugs. And RC bugs with this
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 04:28:33PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
I think we need to establish a header format policy, and I suggest
something similar to debian/control, e.g.
I must say, that the Gentoo-Way looks better than this.
Bastian
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On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 08:16:58PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 04:28:33PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
I think we need to establish a header format policy, and I suggest
something similar to debian/control, e.g.
I must say, that the Gentoo-Way looks better than
On 01-Apr-05, 10:08 (CST), Frank K?ster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do not think that this bug justifies auctex's removal from testing; on
the other hand, I don't think it would be proper to lower its severity
before we know more. But we cannot know whether the submitter will
answer again and
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 08:18:56PM +0200, Wouter van Heyst wrote:
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 08:16:58PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
I must say, that the Gentoo-Way looks better than this.
What is the Gentoo-Way?
| opts=depend checkconfig start stop reload
|
| depend() {
| # Make
also sprach Bastian Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.04.01.2031 +0200]:
| # Make networking dependency conditional on configuration
| case $(sed 's/#.*//' /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf) in
|
*source*tcp*|*source*udp*|*destination*tcp*|*destination*udp*)
|
also sprach Thomas Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.04.01.1930 +0200]:
This has been standardized by LSB:
http://refspecs.freestandards.org/LSB_3.0.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/initscrcomconv.html
Clearly this is the way to go then. After all, we are striving to be
LSB-compliant, so why
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 08:48:36PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
Uh, this looks like a pull type of thing in which ever init.d
script starts its dependencies. I don't think this is a good idea.
No, it is not. The dependencies are cached.
Bastian
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also sprach Bastian Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.04.01.2104 +0200]:
Uh, this looks like a pull type of thing in which ever init.d
script starts its dependencies. I don't think this is a good idea.
No, it is not. The dependencies are cached.
Cached? As in queried beforehand? As in two-pass
On 10246 March 1977, Henning Makholm wrote:
* License : Whatever you wish it is.
Have you cleared this with -legal? Usually licenses are not considered
Free if one needs to invoke wishful thinking to fit them to the DFSG.
Eh, if you ask -legal its always non-free, so no need to. :)
Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As said, burn all hardware in your house. Now. Please. Then you have
definitely defeated the evil non-freeness.
As I have said, I don't think non-free software is evil. I just think
it is not part of the Debian main archive.
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Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
With these changes done, we are now on the home stretch for the sarge
release. We are now only waiting on the arm buildds to recover and
catch up to a reasonable extent, and on one last glibc upload -- and
then sarge is FREEZING. This is, therefore,
Thomas Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That is, if the package
isn't unusable by everyone (if the bug only affects some users) then the
bug is not grave.
If the bug is unreproducible then it can't be the case that the package is
unusable to everyone. So I'd say that a downgrade is
Bastian Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 08:00:19PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
Is it not usual practice to send a note about this to the bug? I think
this would be a good idea, both for documentation purposes, and to wake
up lazy maintainers.
No, maintainers have to
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 22:22 +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
(bugs in maintainer scripts are a policy violation)
I don't recall policy saying that maintainer scripts must be entirely
bug free.
Obviously they _should_ be bug free, but bugs in maintainer scripts
aren't always RC.
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* Jeroen van Wolffelaar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050401 19:35]:
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 07:28:35PM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote:
how can I find out why a package was removed from testing? I tried to
find this out for wwwoffle, and looked at
This type of information is unfortunately not readily
* Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050401 19:55]:
Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-04-01 19:28]:
- its open bugs (one RC, but worked on)
http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/hints/vorlon contains
# bug #295060
remove wwwoffle/2.8e-1
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 20:40:08 +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
| need clock hostname
| provide logger
I take it that this is Richard Gooch's simpleinit system as furnished in
util-linux.
http://www.atnf.csiro.au/people/rgooch/linux/boot-scripts/
Before commenting, people should
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 03:48:00PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
...
Major changes in etch
-
If you intend to make major changes (like a C++ ABI bump) during the
development of etch, please speak with the release team as soon as
possible, describing the changes you're
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 12:05:59PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
On 01-Apr-05, 10:08 (CST), Frank K?ster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do not think that this bug justifies auctex's removal from testing; on
the other hand, I don't think it would be proper to lower its severity
before we know
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 01:12:53AM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote:
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 11:37 +0200, David Schmitt wrote:
To prepare the sourcecode for inspection and/or minor modifications an
additional argument for debian/rules would fit well into the current model.
Calling
Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It doesn't need to be an exact date, but someting like
third quarter of 2005 or mid-2008 would help to avoid situations
like the sarge C++ transition that was too early [1] or the more than
two years old X11 that will ship with sarge (and that doesn't
hi all,
some time back, i remember somebody asking what the proper way was to
credit translators who provided debconf template translations. the
consensus seemed to be that mentioning them in the changelog was
sufficient.
not being satisfied with that, however, i wrote up a small script
to
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
su, 2005-03-27 kello 09:01 +0200, George Danchev kirjoitti:
I second suggestion given at #250202 and like to see unpacked and
patched
targets to hit Policy 4.8.
I hear that Adam Heath (doogie for those on IRC) has been working on a
new source
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 07:59:01PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 07:28:35PM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote:
Right, but open for 47 days already. If for this amount of days an RC
bug is open and nobody seems to have cared
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On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 06:56:45PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 07:59:01PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 07:28:35PM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote:
Right, but open for 47 days already. If for this
April Fool!
:-)
Ritesh
On Friday 01 Apr 2005 12:01 pm, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
Hi,
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now sending another mail to inform you about recent decisions we made.
Topics in this mail
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