Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 10:06:05PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
>
> > Personal communication is how development works in the entire rest of
> > the free software world, I really don't see why Ubuntu is different.
>
> This strikes me as ironic, considering that you are attemptin
Hi,
as we all know, Planet Debian generates RSS feeds that Akregator
doesn't grok, and both packages point at the other one for being at
fault.
Does Debian have something like an "xmltidy" program which can convert
the Planet Debian RSS feeds into something that Akregator can actually
read?
Gree
Le mercredi 08 juin 2005 à 12:12 +0200, Christian Heller a écrit :
> In other words, CYBOL files are the source + executable + configuration
If they are configuration /var/lib looks appropriate. Though it is for
transient files or data only
( http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.2/fhs-5.1.html )
/usr is
On 09/06/05, Manoj Srivastava va, manoj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:44:30 +1200, Nigel Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > It's been implied that people will be basicly *forced* to use
> > selinux,
>
> Where on earth did you get that idea? The goal is to make it
>
* Charles Fry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am an active user of the libhtml-mason-perl package, and am quite
> interested in seeing it continue to progress in Debian.
>
> Unfortunately, as outlined in my [1]message to debian-qa in January, the
> package appears to have been abandoned, a
On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 09:25 +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 01:13:16AM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
> wrote:
> > to find their own (sometimes flawed) solution to a very common problem.
>
> Years using Linux: 10.
>
> Times I've absolutely needed an X-less boot whe
Hi,
I am an active user of the libhtml-mason-perl package, and am quite
interested in seeing it continue to progress in Debian.
Unfortunately, as outlined in my [1]message to debian-qa in January, the
package appears to have been abandoned, and all attempts to contact the
package maintainer have
On Wednesday 08 June 2005 17:25, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 01:13:16AM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
wrote:
> > to find their own (sometimes flawed) solution to a very common problem.
>
> Years using Linux: 10.
> Times I've absolutely needed an X-less boot when an XDM
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> How common was that problem you were trying to solve, again?
Presumably, you never used an S3 video card.
(Locks up on leaving X in many card/X permutations).
Or maybe you inhabit the "Windows is stable" parallel Usenet-propagating
universe :->
ch
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 12:00:54AM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> What do you mean with the "not-for-us" errors? I think what
> you're refering too is that quinn-diff tells you to build
> packages you really shouldn't. I filed a bug with a patch that
> works for me:
> http://bugs.debian.org/275835
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On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 10:04:45PM +0200, Christian Aichinger wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 07:09:35PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > Woah, it's not okay for sourceful uploads either. You *cannot* change
> > anything that goes into the source package at build time. This
> > includes the top e
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 01:13:16AM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
> to find their own (sometimes flawed) solution to a very common problem.
Years using Linux: 10.
Times I've absolutely needed an X-less boot when an XDM was installed: 0.
How common was that problem you were trying
Le mercredi 08 juin 2005 à 20:06 +0200, Marco d'Itri a écrit :
> On Jun 08, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > FFS! When will people learn to not mess with other cultures they know
> > > nothing about?
> > > Feel free to advocate a different default charset for *your* locale, but
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 07:03:50PM -0400, Anonymous wrote:
>
> >>Can't the remainder of the third DVD be filled up with multimedia
> >>propoganda files or other fluff?
> >
> >Or 3vil planz for world domination?
> If all elve fails fill it up with pr0n. ;)
We already have hot-babe there, maybe add
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 01:43:24PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > Yes, most people with Debian experience could work around this but
> > it's way beyond most desktop users that don't know what init.d is.
>
> These people probably won't be able to operate the console anyway, so
> a non-X startup i
Can't the remainder of the third DVD be filled up with multimedia
propoganda files or other fluff?
Or 3vil planz for world domination?
If all elve fails fill it up with pr0n. ;)
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On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 04:34 -0700, Kenneth Stailey wrote:
> Can't the remainder of the third DVD be filled up with multimedia
> propoganda files or other fluff?
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On Wed, 08 Jun 2005, Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 02:17:46PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> > Is that not the purpose of single user mode or run level 1?
>
> Consider this ficticious scenario: if the "frozen system due to X
> misconfiguration" had been my par
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:44:30 +1200, Nigel Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> It's been implied that people will be basicly *forced* to use
> selinux,
Where on earth did you get that idea? The goal is to make it
_feasible_ for people to run SELinux on Etch by configuring boot
> so couldn
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On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:10:32 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]> said:
> On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 08:24:31PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
>> * Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> > any progress on making libselinux1 a "Required" package?
>> >
>> > the pos
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On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 07:57:31PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> Because Ubuntu makes a lot of noise about being a good community member
> and contributing back as much as possible, while most other derivatives
> just take what they want quietly and disappear into the mist.
>
> Between some sligh
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 08:11:46PM -0700, Blars Blarson wrote:
>
> > > >4) buildd software issues(pbuild,sbuild,wanna-build,etc)
>
> > > It looks like this software could use some redesign to put less work
> > > on the buildd maintainers and scale better to more buildds.
>
> > Do you have some
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
> On Jun 08, Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> > Wrong. The problem is packages which need to interact with text files,
>> > mail and usenet messages generated by broken software, and for which
>> > a
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:44:53PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
> - use package dependancies to ponder if this is an end-user package or
> something pulled in by other packages (users typically look for end-user
> programs)
I do not think will work very well. Where do you set the
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 10:28:28PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
>
> I fail to understand why there's so much resistance to this feature when
> others find it very useful Fedora Core / RedHat, SuSE, Mandrake in the
> Linux distributions area and in all the different (gasp) Windows v
On Jun 08, Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Wrong. The problem is packages which need to interact with text files,
> > mail and usenet messages generated by broken software, and for which
> > assuming UTF-8 would be totally wrong.
> This is completely orthogonal to making UTF-8 the defau
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 02:17:46PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
>
> Is that not the purpose of single user mode or run level 1?
Pray tell me how can run level 1 be enough to solve the problem I described
if you need to have networking capabitilies to:
a) find a solution to your plight throu
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Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:28:37PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
>> Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > Eh? You can't change that around just like that, it will break in the
>> > cases where people
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
> On Jun 08, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> As we have hundreds of broken packages assuming e.g. that the filenames
>> on disk are encoded in the current locale's character set, the only way
>
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 07:09:35PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 01:01:52AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
> > Adding changes would be ok for an upload which includes source
> > (i.e., .dsc and .diff), but it's simply the *wrong* thing to do when
> > an upload does not includ
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 07:09:35PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> Woah, it's not okay for sourceful uploads either. You *cannot* change
> anything that goes into the source package at build time. This
> includes the top entry in changelog and the source section of the
> control file. Trying to do
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:23:57AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 12:08:23PM -0700, Blars Blarson wrote:
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > >[Josselin Mouette]
> > >> However that won't help the architecture make it to a Vancouver-like
> > >> rele
Bill Allombert wrote:
> When I spoke of security nightmare, this was exactly what I had in mind.
> You will never find a blacklist of command that prevent abuse, and the
> current certainly does not. For example \usepackage and \documentclass
> are not blacklisted so the attacker can load add-on pa
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 07:58:32PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 03:34:26PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> >
> > Nobody. However, you're assuming that xdm et al will keep trying to
> > start an X server, even if it fails. Luckily, the respective initscript
Martin Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andreas Metzler [2005-06-07 20:03 +0200]:
>> Martin Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [...]
>> > I will upload the new packages to unstable very soon. This has a
>> > reasonably big impact to all packages that depend/build-depend on
>> > PostgreSQL since t
On Jun 08, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > FFS! When will people learn to not mess with other cultures they know
> > nothing about?
> > Feel free to advocate a different default charset for *your* locale, but
> > do not pretend to know what's better for other locales.
> As we have
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 01:01:52AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
> Ok, this is already the second time I have to report a bug like this,
> so I will warn everybody before I find more of them.
>
> There seems to be a bunch of packages who try to update the changelog
> in this way:
>
>dch
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 03:34:26PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>
> Nobody. However, you're assuming that xdm et al will keep trying to
> start an X server, even if it fails. Luckily, the respective initscripts
> are far more clever than that.
I've had a laptop that froze because of X starting u
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 10:33:05AM +0200, Jesus Climent wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 02:40:48PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> >
> > Why on earth would you? It's just more administrative overhead, and
> > yet another package you didn't need.
>
> What made you _think_ i dont need it?
Histori
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 02:18:28PM +0100, Simon Huggins wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 02:25:22PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:23:33AM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote:
> > > To begin with we can all go back and review:
> > > http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?ReleasePro
I demand that Benj. Mako Hill may or may not have written...
>
>> If you're going to complain about a cabal, please do try to get the facts
>> straight: The DPL team consists of only one Canonical employee, who was
>> even later, after the election, added (Benjamin "Mako" Hill)
> And for the rec
Benj. Mako Hill([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-08 12:41:
> I have no desire to spin things in a way that makes everyone throw
> their arms up and love Ubuntu but rather to find constructive ways
> that these two projects (both of which I care about) can work together
> in mutually beneficial ways. The
Le mercredi 08 juin 2005 à 10:13 +0200, Marco d'Itri a écrit :
> On Jun 07, Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > - - The locale codeset should be UTF-8 for all new installs by default.
> FFS! When will people learn to not mess with other cultures they know
> nothing about?
> Feel free to a
> Nowadays, the recommended way to update config.sub/guess is transparent,
> Debian-specific (but friendly to any sort of upstream config.sub/guess
> usage pattern), version-control friendly, and also non-.diff-bloating.
Could you develop on that topic (or point me to some good reference,
of cou
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:19:06AM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > The fact is that Ubuntu has proactively contributed a lot of code
> > back to Debian, much more than most Debian derivatives have. I
> > see no reason why claims that Ubuntu is not doing _enough_, or
> > making it easy _enough_
> Matt Zimmerman([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-07 16:06:
> > On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 04:03:24PM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote:
> >
> > > Matt Zimmerman([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-07 13:35:
> > > > If the diff were zero bytes, Debian and Ubuntu would be identical. I
> > > > hope
> > > > that you can u
Christian Heller wrote:
Dear Debian Developers,
we are planning to update our CYBOP Debian packages. CYBOP contains
the XML-based language CYBOL and its interpreter CYBOI, written in C:
CYBOL applications are pure XML; binaries do not exist.
They are run "live" by CYBOI, which interprets them.
I
Hi Christian!
You wrote:
> 1 Where best to place CYBOL application files in the UNIX file hierarchy?
> I thought about /usr/share, but may be /usr/lib suits better or what else?
If the applications are to be executed by normal users, they should be
put in /usr/bin. If thy are only called intern
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 01:10:43PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:31:24PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > * Julien BLACHE
> > | A bug is a bug, whether it triggers or not.
> > It's not RC and therefore not a priority if it has no effect.
> The primary question, I t
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:21:15PM +0100, Brian Teeman wrote:
> > On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Josh Lauricha wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue 06/07/05 18:17, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > > Dropping a source package might get you into legal trouble (some of the
> > > > l
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:55:39PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
>
> both because the overhead of
> training and coordinating with inexperienced (or, well, inept) coordinators
> is often higher than just doing all the work yourself,
In the short term this is true, but if the amount of work is incr
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 12:08:23PM -0700, Blars Blarson wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >[Josselin Mouette]
> >> However that won't help the architecture make it to a Vancouver-like
> >> release.
> >
> >I suspect you have misunderstood the content and intention o
Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | > Similarly, I'd expect Debian maintainers to care less about bugs which
> | > only affects OpenBSD or Windows than those which affect Linux on i386.
> |
> | Would you mind explaining why this sentence is at all relevant in this
> | context ?
>
> Bug
Christian Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> we are planning to update our CYBOP Debian packages. CYBOP contains
> the XML-based language CYBOL and its interpreter CYBOI, written in C:
> CYBOL applications are pure XML; binaries do not exist.
OK, it's like pure Perl, so you can do the same as pe
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Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:21:15PM +0100, Brian Teeman wrote:
>>
>> As Steve has stated that the source on DVD 3 is only for IA64
>
>No, Steve did not state that.
>
>Matthew stated that there is a source package which could reasonably
>well be put on the last image and whic
Roberto C. Sanchez schrieb am Mittwoch, den 08. Juni 2005:
> [offlist]
>
> On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 10:25:23AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > yeah, I offered to sponsor them a year ago and created the repo. I planned
> > to
> > hijack the ITP in the next days to get freenx into debian.
> > Bu
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:19:06AM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> The fact is that Ubuntu has proactively contributed a lot of code back to
> Debian, much more than most Debian derivatives have. I see no reason why
> claims that Ubuntu is not doing _enough_, or making it easy _enough_ for
> Debian
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 01:15:18PM +0200, Benjamin Mesing wrote:
>
> > If your X configuration is broken and your X won't start then that is
> > effectively the same thing as the proposed run level 3 anyway. So
> > what is the point?
> Well, I used to have problems with my graphiccard that hard l
[offlist]
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 10:25:23AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> yeah, I offered to sponsor them a year ago and created the repo. I planned to
> hijack the ITP in the next days to get freenx into debian.
> But I'm also happy to Co-Maintain the package. I'm the admin of the pkg-nx
> re
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:21:15PM +0100, Brian Teeman wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Josh Lauricha wrote:
>
> > On Tue 06/07/05 18:17, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > Dropping a source package might get you into legal trouble (some of the
> > > licenses for software in Debian require you distribute th
--- Brian Teeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Colin Watson wrote:
>
>
> Is there any way that the source can be remastered so that it fits on 2
> dvd. Seems kind of daft that it stretches to three dvd for the sake of
> 212mb.
Can't the remainder of the third DVD be filled
* Thijs Kinkhorst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Wed, June 8, 2005 12:50, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> > In RedHat, using selinux is a run time option. If one don't want to use
> it,
> > all one need to do is update a config file and reboot. I'm sure can get
> > something similar working in Debi
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 07:10:15AM +0200, Ingo Juergensmann wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 03:27:42PM -0700, Blars Blarson wrote:
>
> > It looks like this software could use some redesign to put less work
> > on the buildd maintainers and scale better to more buildds.
>
> There was one in the m
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 02:25:22PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:23:33AM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote:
> > To begin with we can all go back and review:
> > http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?ReleaseProposals
> I reviewed it and it still all falls into two groups:
> - Vot
On Wed, June 8, 2005 12:50, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> In RedHat, using selinux is a run time option. If one don't want to use
it,
> all one need to do is update a config file and reboot. I'm sure can get
> something similar working in Debian.
If it's not necessary for basic operation of the p
* Adam D. Barratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-06-08 10:25:44 +0100]:
> developer.php is currently configured not to check against any external
> keyservers.
>
> See #307461 and http://lists.debian.org/debian-qa/2005/05/msg2.html
I will try to fix this (and some other issues) soon.
Cheers.
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On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 08:11:46PM -0700, Blars Blarson wrote:
> Almost all of the dep-wait and many of the not-for-us errors could be
> detected by the software.
Yeah that would be useful.
> wanna-build could probably be turned into a distributed process if it
> can't be handled on a single box,
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> Recalling his packages in the past, I get a different opinion.
I can't define your email polite, and I have to admin that this list
is often far from being friendly. I really don't know what you could
get sending this type of email on this *development
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On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:31:24PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> * Julien BLACHE
>
> | A bug is a bug, whether it triggers or not.
>
> It's not RC and therefore not a priority if it has no effect.
The primary question, I think, is whether one can be 100% sure whether a
bug that results in an
* Nigel Jones
| Hmmm, I can see your point, BUT, if a user is not going to use selinux
| at all, then what is the use of downloading extra dependencies that
| you don't need. I thought that a feature of APT was that it makes you
| only download the libraries that you need/use.
Yes, and coreutil
Dear Debian Developers,
we are planning to update our CYBOP Debian packages. CYBOP contains
the XML-based language CYBOL and its interpreter CYBOI, written in C:
CYBOL applications are pure XML; binaries do not exist.
They are run "live" by CYBOI, which interprets them.
In other words, CYBOL files
* Julien BLACHE
| Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|
| > Similarly, I'd expect Debian maintainers to care less about bugs which
| > only affects OpenBSD or Windows than those which affect Linux on i386.
|
| Would you mind explaining why this sentence is at all relevant in this
| conte
> If your X configuration is broken and your X won't start then that is
> effectively the same thing as the proposed run level 3 anyway. So
> what is the point?
Well, I used to have problems with my graphiccard that hard locked the
system on startup. Being able to do boot into runlevel (RL) 3 wit
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:56:44PM -0500, David Starner wrote:
> "Thaddeus H. Black" writes:
> > However, past character-set discussions on debian-devel
> > have also established how maddening it is to see a '-'
> > in a man page, unsearchable because it is not really a
> > '-';
>
> The simple fac
On 08/06/05, Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [Nigel Jones]
> > if "coreutils" is made absolutely dependant on libselinux1, then the
> > user gets no choice...
>
> One think is depending on the library, another is actually using
> selinux. Your objection to use selinux might have
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Matthew Palmer wrote:
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 11:48:49AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
I do not know why you doubt that Luca will come back but as far as I know
him from conferences I'm pretty sure that his main interest were good
quality Debian packages
Recalling his packag
[Nigel Jones]
> if "coreutils" is made absolutely dependant on libselinux1, then the
> user gets no choice...
One think is depending on the library, another is actually using
selinux. Your objection to use selinux might have some merit, but
your objection to have a package depend on libselinux1 d
Matt Zimmerman([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-07 16:06:
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 04:03:24PM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote:
>
> > Matt Zimmerman([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-07 13:35:
> > > If the diff were zero bytes, Debian and Ubuntu would be identical. I hope
> > > that you can understand my hesitatio
It's been implied that people will be basicly *forced* to use selinux,
so couldn't it be easier to have a coreutils-selinux package on the
side? just like how the kernel team maintain a couple different
branches of the kernel at the same time. There are people that
*REFUSE* to use selinux (persona
On Wed, June 8, 2005 11:18, René van Bevern wrote:
> On 8.06.05, Nico Golde wrote:
>> GPG key id not found! (key id was not found neither in the
>> Debian keyring nor on a public keyserver)
> I have the same problem.
This is a known bug:
http://bugs.debian.org/307461
Thijs
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On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 06:09:01PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Roberto C. Sanchez writes:
> > Where, pray tell, is a newbie going to learn about [runlevels]?
>
> a) By having used Red Hat.
> b) By reading up on Linux before trying to use it (yes, some people _do_
>that).
Yup. They'll also ha
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:56:17PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > last time i spoke to him [name forgotten] the maintainer
> > of coreutils would not accept the coreutils patches -
> > already completed and demonstrated as working and
Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote on 7-06-2005 1:03:
[snip]
[ Admin improvements ]
- Possibility to startup the OS in "control" mode: select which init
scripts will run, this provides a way to work-around hardware issues after
d-i has installed the base system (personal example: #301112
Jesus Climent wrote:
> Matthew Palmer wrote:
> > Jesus, meet policy-rc.d.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ man policy-rc.d
> No manual entry for policy-rc.d
Look here:
/usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.policy-rc.d.gz
http://people.debian.org/~hmh/invokerc.d-policyrc.d-specification.txt
Bob
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Don Armstrong wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jun 2005, Olaf van der Spek wrote:
Petri Latvala wrote:
1) divert the other? what's the use of another package version then
That depends on system-wide vs per-user vs per-environment.
If you want something done per-user/per-environment, you can always
use
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 11:48:49AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> I do not know why you doubt that Luca will come back but as far as I know
> him from conferences I'm pretty sure that his main interest were good
> quality Debian packages
Recalling his packages in the past, I get a different opinion
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:11:05PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le mardi 07 juin 2005 à 02:12 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit :
> > Oh, you'll also note that the traditional "slow" architectures (mips,
> > mipsel, m68k, arm) aren't on this "problems" list. That's because a *lot*
> > of effort ha
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:19:06AM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> The fact is that Ubuntu has proactively contributed a lot of code back to
> Debian, much more than most Debian derivatives have. I see no reason why
> claims that Ubuntu is not doing _enough_, or making it easy _enough_ for
> Debian
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 10:31:33AM +0200, Jesus Climent wrote:
> > > - Separate runlevels: 2 for multi, no net, 3 for multi no X, 4 for X, 4=5
> >
> > No way. Debian has always avoided mindlessly dictating what runlevels
> > must be used for. There's no reason to destroy this feature now. And
> >
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 07:03:56PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> > Add to the list of daemon related features the "not start daemons by
> > default"
> > and wait for the admin to define which ones to start from /etc/defaults or
> > whatever.
>
> Jesus, meet policy-rc.d.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ man
Hi,
as bug #310817 shows there is a problem in the TippTrainer code which I
tagged upstream. Unfortunately currently there is a (hopefully temporary)
problem with upstream maintainance. I just asked interested parties in
Debian and found out that we have no real replcaement for this program whi
Guillermo Gutierrez Herrera wrote:
> El mar, 07-06-2005 a las 11:41 +0200, Olaf van der Spek escribió:
> > Is it possible for a user to ensure that a certain app is (always)
> > started after system start (and stopped before shutdown) without using
> > root access?
> > If so, how?
>
> sudo - users
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