Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-13 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 04:20:13PM +0300, Linas Žvirblis wrote: > Joey Hess wrote: > Z > > If so, I would be happy to add this to tasksel, so that the desktop task > > automatically installs it if it detects a system that is not easily > > capable of running kde/gnome. Tasksel has the infrastructur

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-13 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira [Tue, Apr 11 2006, 01:44:57PM]: > Hi ! > > I'm creating a meta package for install a lite desktop for old > machines with poor hardware. > I would like to receive opinions about my packages list: > > - x-window-system-core > - xfce4 (beautiful!) Depends.

Bug#362293: ITP: trilinos -- parallel solver libraries within an object-oriented software framework

2006-04-13 Thread Christophe Prud'homme
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Christophe Prud'homme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: trilinos Version : 6.0.16 Upstream Author : Sandia National Laboratories * URL : http://software.sandia.gov/trilinos/index.html * License : LGPL Programming La

ITP: hotpotatoonline -- Fast paced, multiplayer arena sport game

2006-04-13 Thread Gürkan Sengün
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name    : hotpotatoonline  Version : 1.2.0  Upstream Author : Jean-Francois Perusse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Thiery Adam, Bertrand Bry-Marfaing, Brad Fish * URL : http://www.hotpotatoonline.com/ * Li

Bug#362267: ITP: scribus-ng-doc -- non-free documentation for the developmental branch of Scribus

2006-04-13 Thread Oleksandr Moskalenko
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Oleksandr Moskalenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: scribus-ng-doc Version : 1.3.3.1 Upstream Author : Scribus development team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.scribus.net/ * License : OPLv1.0 Description

Bug#362266: ITP: scribus-ng -- developmental version of the desktop publishing program Scribus

2006-04-13 Thread Oleksandr Moskalenko
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Oleksandr Moskalenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: scribus-ng Version : 1.3.3.1 Upstream Author : Scribus development team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.scribus.net/ * License : GPLv2 Programming Lang: C+

Re: Bug#354674: What on earth?

2006-04-13 Thread David Nusinow
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 07:09:55PM -0400, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > *Think* for a moment about the consequences. This is not a simple > rebuild, this is a serious problem. I agree and I take full responsibility for the issue. I'm sorry for the trouble. I'm fully willing to put back the .la files

Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-13 Thread Stef VK5HSX
Greetings.. On Sun, 2006-04-09 at 07:36 +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > > "HAM" is not an acronym, so "Ham Radio" would be more appropriate. > > > > Even better (IMHO) is the full term "Amateur Radio", but some may > > disagree. I've CC'd debian-hams for

Re: What on earth?

2006-04-13 Thread Marco Cabizza
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Re: What on earth?

2006-04-13 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 06:52:52PM +0200, Marco Cabizza wrote: > I experienced the issue while recompiling some gnome packages. Is sed > "s##/usr/lib/libXrender.la ##g" (in the .la references, ie > libgdk-x11-2.0.la) the "best" temporary solution by now? s##/usr/lib/libXrender.la##-lXrender##g, I

Re: What on earth?

2006-04-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 06:52:52PM +0200, Marco Cabizza wrote: > I experienced the issue while recompiling some gnome packages. Is sed > "s##/usr/lib/libXrender.la ##g" (in the .la references, ie > libgdk-x11-2.0.la) the "best" temporary solution by now? Anything uploaded this way will still fail

Re: What on earth?

2006-04-13 Thread Marco Cabizza
Il giorno gio, 13/04/2006 alle 19.12 +0300, Daniel Stone ha scritto: > On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 11:12:06AM -0400, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > > Please tell me if I have this right: > > * You don't like .la files > > Yes. > > > * So you're unilaterally removing them from a core package >

Re: Bug#354674: What on earth?

2006-04-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 07:12:48PM +0300, Daniel Stone wrote: > Is a rebuild really that phenomenally onerous for you? In the time > spent arguing this point, tons of packages could've been simply rebuilt. > I don't see where the problem lies, unless you happen to enjoy random > flamebait more th

Re: Bug#354674: What on earth?

2006-04-13 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 11:12:06AM -0400, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > Please tell me if I have this right: > * You don't like .la files Yes. > * So you're unilaterally removing them from a core package > (libxcursor) with dozens of reverse-depends, breaking all of > them

Re: per-architecture Provides field

2006-04-13 Thread Erast Benson
On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 17:41 +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: > On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 12:13:57AM -0700, Erast Benson wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 00:04 +0200, Loïc Minier wrote: > > > Why not simply Provide: sunwlxsl all of the > > > time, doesn't it provide sunwlxsl on other arches? > > > > Bu

Re: Accepted mailman 2.1.5-8sarge3 (source sparc)

2006-04-13 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 01:54:07PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Lionel Elie Mamane ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060412 13:49]: >> mailman (2.1.5-8sarge3) stable; urgency=high >> . >>* Don't delete other package's ucf-managed configuration files >> (closes: #358575) >> Files: >> 2a02b24630b7

Re: per-architecture Provides field

2006-04-13 Thread Erast Benson
On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 12:18 +0300, Daniel Stone wrote: > On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 12:13:57AM -0700, Erast Benson wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 00:04 +0200, Loïc Minier wrote: > > > Why not simply Provide: sunwlxsl all of the > > > time, doesn't it provide sunwlxsl on other arches? > > > > But

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-13 Thread Thiemo Seufer
André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira wrote: > 2006/4/13, Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Le Jeu 13 Avril 2006 15:20, Linas Žvirblis a écrit : > > > > I think this would be better than a meta package because it would > > > > be available in the regular install, and it would avoid some of the > > >

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-13 Thread André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira
2006/4/13, Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Le Jeu 13 Avril 2006 15:20, Linas Žvirblis a écrit : > > > I think this would be better than a meta package because it would > > > be available in the regular install, and it would avoid some of the > > > issues with meta packages. > > > > Meta pack

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-13 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 15:28 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Le Jeu 13 Avril 2006 15:20, Linas Žvirblis a écrit : > > > I think this would be better than a meta package because it would > > > be available in the regular install, and it would avoid some of the > > > issues with meta packages. > > > >

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-13 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Jeu 13 Avril 2006 15:20, Linas Žvirblis a écrit : > > I think this would be better than a meta package because it would > > be available in the regular install, and it would avoid some of the > > issues with meta packages. > > Meta package or not, I do not consider "Light Desktop" a good name >

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-13 Thread Linas Žvirblis
Joey Hess wrote: > If so, I would be happy to add this to tasksel, so that the desktop task > automatically installs it if it detects a system that is not easily > capable of running kde/gnome. Tasksel has the infrastructure needed to > support doing this kind of thing, just a matter of finding ap

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-13 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 09:26 -0300, André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira wrote: > to control processes (kill for sample) ? there is an xfce4-taskmanager not yet in the archive. see http://heracles.corsac.net/~corsac/xfce4-taskmanager.png Maybe it would fit your needs ? -- Yves-Alexis Perez -- To UNS

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-13 Thread Jon Dowland
At 1144766211 past the epoch, Daniel Dickinson wrote: > > - x-window-system-core > > - xfce4 (beautiful!) > > You may want to offer a choice of window manager. On > low-end machines I'm partial to WindowMaker, but IceWm, > FluxBox, or BlackBox are also good choices. I'd use Recommends or Suggest

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-13 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I think this would be better than a meta package because it would be > available in the regular install, and it would avoid some of the issues > with meta packages. I second this proposal. Indeed, I was about pinging Joey about this thread because it fits

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-13 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006, Luca Capello wrote: > > Well, the wiki page has a "last change" date. The AM (or FD) will > > notice that it's not up-to-date and they can ask you to update it. > > Thank you for the explanation. > > Last questions: > > - is there something like a template for an NM page? N

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-13 Thread André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira
2006/4/13, Linas Žvirblis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Frank Küster wrote: > > >> Not only that, but Evince can be quite slow at rendering complex documents. > > > > Are there any benchmarks on that? poppler (on which evince is based) > > aims to be better than xpdf in that, but it seems some of the add

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-13 Thread André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira
2006/4/12, Margarita Manterola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Some comments on the choice of programs. > > On 4/11/06, André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > - mozilla-firefox > > - mozilla-thunderbird > > As other pointed out, I'd go for dillo and Sylphed. Maybe include the > mozi

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-13 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 08:22 -0300, André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira wrote: > 2006/4/11, Yves-Alexis Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Do you plan to add a music/media player ? a slow machine can't play HD > > videos but can play music so > > Yeap! XMMS ? xmms is gtk1 so maybe it will not fit nicely

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-13 Thread Linas Žvirblis
Frank Küster wrote: >> Not only that, but Evince can be quite slow at rendering complex documents. > > Are there any benchmarks on that? poppler (on which evince is based) > aims to be better than xpdf in that, but it seems some of the additional > functions have slowed it down. The poppler peo

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-13 Thread André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira
2006/4/11, Bernhard R. Link <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > * Andr Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060411 18:45]: > > - x-window-system-core > > - xfce4 (beautiful!) > > - gdm > [...] > > - gnome-ppp > > - gnome-utils > > Definitions differ, but I'd not call something "light" pulling in > half

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-13 Thread André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira
2006/4/11, Daniel Dickinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:44:57 -0300 > "André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi ! > > > > I'm creating a meta package for install a lite desktop for old > > machines with

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-13 Thread André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira
2006/4/11, Yves-Alexis Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, 2006-04-11 at 13:44 -0300, André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira wrote: > > Hi ! > > > > I'm creating a meta package for install a lite desktop for old > > machines with poor hardware. > > Great task. > > I would like to receive opinions about my

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-13 Thread Luca Capello
Hello! On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:19:41 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Well, the wiki page has a "last change" date. The AM (or FD) will > notice that it's not up-to-date and they can ask you to update it. Thank you for the explanation. Last questions: - is there something like a template for an N

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-13 Thread Joey Hess
André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira wrote: > I'm creating a meta package for install a lite desktop for old > machines with poor hardware. > I would like to receive opinions about my packages list: I'm glad to see someone working on this. I hope you manage to find a consensus for some good default packa

Re: per-architecture Provides field

2006-04-13 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 12:13:57AM -0700, Erast Benson wrote: > On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 00:04 +0200, Loïc Minier wrote: > > Why not simply Provide: sunwlxsl all of the > > time, doesn't it provide sunwlxsl on other arches? > > But how? sunwlxsl is something which is only present in > OpenSolaris-b

Re: per-architecture Provides field

2006-04-13 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 12:13:57AM -0700, Erast Benson wrote: > On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 00:04 +0200, Loïc Minier wrote: > > Why not simply Provide: sunwlxsl all of the > > time, doesn't it provide sunwlxsl on other arches? > > But how? sunwlxsl is something which is only present in > OpenSolaris-b

TI calcs related packages up for adoption

2006-04-13 Thread Julien BLACHE
Hi, I am putting the following (source) packages up for adoption: - tilp: TI calculator <-> PC communication program for X - tiemu: Texas Instruments calculators emulator - skinedit: skin editor for TiEmu - tidev-modules: Sources for drivers for Texas Instruments calculators link cables And

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-13 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006, Luca Capello wrote: > I fear of the fact that my wiki page will be outdated, while my > involvement in Debian not. Probably it's a specific problem of mine, > as I try to be the most perfectionist I can and... without success. > > Obviously, as soon as the wiki page will be a

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-13 Thread Luca Capello
Hello! On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:48:36 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Luca Capello wrote: >> I wouldn't measure an NM commitment WRT a wiki page, at least if >> she/he doesn't want to deal mainly with web pages. > > Writing a wiki page is like writing a mail... you can cut & pas

Re: MIA Christoph Wegscheider?

2006-04-13 Thread Thomas Viehmann
MJ Ray wrote: > Does anyone know the current status of maintainer Christoph Wegscheider? > Last maintainer uploads: > * qiv 2005-05-23 (sponsor Thomas Viehmann cc'd) I sponsored Justin Pryzby's qiv C++ transition NMU in January and haven't had any interaction with Christoph, sorry. Christoph's only

Re: Eiffel.

2006-04-13 Thread Britton Kerin
This is pretty exciting, especially for people like me who loved Eiffel when we were young idealistic students but wandered away due to the fragmented community and the pain of having to write a wrapper every time you want to use a library. Will ISE release the Gtk wrappers they obviously have an

Re: per-architecture Provides field

2006-04-13 Thread Erast Benson
On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 00:04 +0200, Loïc Minier wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Apr 12, 2006, Erast Benson wrote: > > +Provides: sunwlxsl [solaris-i386] > > Depends: ${shlibs:Depends} > > Why not simply use Provide: ${misc:Provides} and set misc:Provides to > sunwlxsl on solaris-i386? OK. Th

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-13 Thread Frank Küster
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No [expletive deleted] way. Debian is a volunteer organization. This > means that we don't get paid. Lots of the various kinds of work people > do for debian are mind-bogglingly boring - one random thing that comes > to mind is the work Frank Küster is

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-13 Thread Frank Küster
Linas Žvirblis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Miles Bader wrote: > - evince >>> Any particular reason for not just using xpdf? >> >> Especially since xpdf seems to do a much better job of rendering many >> pdf documents... [Evince has nicer looking widgets though.] > > Not only that, but