Re: WTF ? (Fwd: Your message to Yaird-devel awaits moderator approval)

2006-08-16 Thread Thomas Weber
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 17.08.2006, 10:52 +1000 schrieb Brian May: > * In one case you can usually assume the maintainer got the message, > in the other case you practically got confirmation that the message > didn't get through. > > * If the maintainer doesn't respond, you can always send a ping

Re: Problems with security updates -apologize

2006-08-16 Thread Mgr. Peter Tuharsky
Charles, I agree that my message has been very emotional. I'm sorry for that and I apologize to all I have hurt. I really lost my nerves. You can imagine that from the fact, that I'm active member of some 15+ GNU bug/mailing lists and really don't need more. For 4 years with Debian, nothing

Re: Surpassing Microsoft quality

2006-08-16 Thread Mgr. Peter Tuharsky
If the bug, that You call *feature*, has been introduced by *security updates*, how do they get fixed then? Does it get fixed ever? Ron Johnson  wrote / napísal(a): -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mgr. Peter Tuharsky wrote: Hi I've been using Debian for 4 y

Removing moderation on Alioth lists

2006-08-16 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 10:52:52AM +1000, Brian May a écrit : > Subject: Your message to Pkg-mediawiki-devel awaits moderator approval > > > The reason it is being held: > > Post by non-member to a members-only list > Dear all, In the case of the mail list of the packaging project of debi

Re: Not able to build a package with pbuilder

2006-08-16 Thread Matthias Julius
Michael Rasmussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 2006-08-17 01:53:59, Junichi Uekawa wrote: >> >> It's the way diff/patch works. They don't preserve execute >> permissions. >> > I have realised that and I am opting for Don Armstrong solution which > solves the matter. Thanks. You could run

Problems with security updates (was: Surpassing Microsoft quality)

2006-08-16 Thread Charles Plessy
> Now, I have awaken because of bug 372719. Wine crashes, OpenOffice.org > 2.0 crashes upon saving a document. The bug was introduced in > "security update" of libfreetype. Identification of problem was quick > in OpenOffice.org community, and also in Debian. Just apply the next > security update t

Re: Is inability to operate with root read-only (and separate /etc, /dev, etc) a bug or design decision?

2006-08-16 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Philipp Matthias Hahn] > Which doesn't work because of linux-utils-2.12r/mount/fstab.c:55 As I recall, Andries (util-linux upstream) produced, at least a year ago, a kernel patch which allows the kernel to store an extra string of user data from 'mount', and display it in /proc/mounts, so that n

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-16 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Steve Greenland] > My experience is that the ones whose build instructions say "edit the > makefile to pick your platform and compiler" compile and work, and > when they don't, they're easy to fix. The ones that use autoconf tend > to blow up on non-Linux[1], in ways that are hard to debug and da

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-16 Thread Miles Bader
Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You figure out where the incompatability points are, and you write > functions to mask them. Of course the functions themselves have > #ifdefs (or some other way of controlling compilation), but you get it > *out* of your main code base. Gee sounds lik

Bug#383401: ITP: keytouch -- easily configure extra function keys in multimedia keyboards

2006-08-16 Thread Luis Rodrigo Gallardo Cruz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Luis Rodrigo Gallardo Cruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: keytouch Version : 2.2.0 Upstream Author : Marvin Raaijmakers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/index.html * License : GPL Program

Bug#383398: ITP: tptest3 -- A suite for testing bandwidth

2006-08-16 Thread Michael Rasmussen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Rasmussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: tptest3 Version : 3.1.7 Upstream Author : Ragnar Loenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://tptest.sourceforge.net * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description

Re: Trouble building heimdal using

2006-08-16 Thread Brian May
> "Rüdiger" == Rüdiger Ranft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Rüdiger>cdbs = 0.4.32 My first guess would be to try back porting cdbs first. -- Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: WTF ? (Fwd: Your message to Yaird-devel awaits moderator approval)

2006-08-16 Thread Brian May
> "Thomas" == Thomas Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Thomas> How is that different from a non-responsive maintainer (in Thomas> which case you don't even know that the message arrived on Thomas> his mail system)? First you need to define "non-responsive maintainer". Depending on

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-16 Thread Matthew Garrett
Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 16-Aug-06, 04:00 (CDT), Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This will never work. Real life example from a couple of weeks ago: I >> wrote a program that was running happily on Sarge, then somebody wanted >> to build it on RHEL and failed beca

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-16 Thread Steve Greenland
On 16-Aug-06, 04:00 (CDT), Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 02:26:29PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > > And guess what? System tests are actually more reliable, especially > > when the user tells you what the system is. You can simply flip to > > compiling foo_

Re: afraid to build from source?

2006-08-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [Goswin von Brederlow] > It's true that you can, but it's no excuse. Upstream has reason to > ship pre-built automake/autoconf output, because historically, random > users could be expected to have 'make' and a C compiler, but couldn't > be expected t

Re: Not able to build a package with pbuilder

2006-08-16 Thread Junichi Uekawa
> In my source tree configure has execute permission but when building > the deb-package I notice these warnings: > > dpkg-source: warning: executable mode 0755 of `configure' will not be > represented in diffdpkg-source: warning: executable mode 0755 of > `depcomp' will not be represented i

Re: Not able to build a package with pbuilder

2006-08-16 Thread Michael Rasmussen
On 2006-08-17 01:53:59, Junichi Uekawa wrote: It's the way diff/patch works. They don't preserve execute permissions. I have realised that and I am opting for Don Armstrong solution which solves the matter. Thanks. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael ra

Re: Not able to build a package with pbuilder

2006-08-16 Thread Michael Rasmussen
On 2006-08-17 00:54:41, Don Armstrong wrote: It means that your upstream is having issues; configure should be +x in the orig.tar.gz. In this special situation orig.tar.gz is not to blame since orig.tar.gz is not prepared to use autotools in which case configure does not exist in upstream.

Re: Not able to build a package with pbuilder

2006-08-16 Thread James Westby
On (17/08/06 00:57), Michael Rasmussen wrote: > > On 2006-08-17 00:53:16, James Westby wrote: > > > >You could see if chmod u+x configure in your debian/rules fixes it, > >but > >it shouldn't be necessary. > > > How I am going to do that? configure is in the tar.gz.diff file and What file is tha

Re: Not able to build a package with pbuilder

2006-08-16 Thread Michael Rasmussen
On 2006-08-17 00:53:16, James Westby wrote: You could see if chmod u+x configure in your debian/rules fixes it, but it shouldn't be necessary. How I am going to do that? configure is in the tar.gz.diff file and from what I know debian/rules has no access to that file? -- Hilsen/Regards Mic

Re: Not able to build a package with pbuilder

2006-08-16 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Michael Rasmussen wrote: > On 2006-08-17 00:02:22, The Fungi wrote: > > chmod +x configure > > > >Looks to me like execute permission for configure probably isn't > >set. > In my source tree configure has execute permission but when building > the deb-package I notice these

Re: Not able to build a package with pbuilder

2006-08-16 Thread James Westby
On (17/08/06 00:08), Michael Rasmussen wrote: > > On 2006-08-17 00:02:22, The Fungi wrote: > > > >Try: > > > > chmod +x configure > > > >Looks to me like execute permission for configure probably isn't > >set. > In my source tree configure has execute permission but when building > the deb-pac

Re: Not able to build a package with pbuilder

2006-08-16 Thread Michael Rasmussen
On 2006-08-17 00:02:22, The Fungi wrote: Try: chmod +x configure Looks to me like execute permission for configure probably isn't set. In my source tree configure has execute permission but when building the deb-package I notice these warnings: dpkg-source: warning: executable mode 075

Re: Not able to build a package with pbuilder

2006-08-16 Thread The Fungi
On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 11:57:21PM +0200, Michael Rasmussen wrote: > I am trying to use pbuilder to test a package I am about to prepare for > upload but no matter which way - pbuild as root or pdebuild inside > source tree, I try the result is always the same. When pbuilder is > trying to ex

Not able to build a package with pbuilder

2006-08-16 Thread Michael Rasmussen
Hi all, I am trying to use pbuilder to test a package I am about to prepare for upload but no matter which way - pbuild as root or pdebuild inside source tree, I try the result is always the same. When pbuilder is trying to execure configure from inside the chroot is fails with the error

Re: Surpassing Microsoft quality

2006-08-16 Thread sean finney
On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 04:31:51PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > IIRC, "security updates" do just (and *only*) that: fix *security* > bugs, not *feature* bugs. they do fix bugs caused by regressions in security updates though. sean signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Surpassing Microsoft quality

2006-08-16 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mgr. Peter Tuharsky wrote: >Hi > > >I've been using Debian for 4 years because I felt confident about > it's quality. I've swallowed the ancient software in the name of > stability. I've been proud of security updates. I learned how to make >

Re: Ifupdown 'extra' package with network ({pre,post}) testing scripts

2006-08-16 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 02:36:52PM +0200, Emanuele Rocca wrote: > Hello Javier, Hi there. > > This package provides additional scripts for ifupdown to test for some > > common > > problems when setting up interfaces: > > > > - interfaces without a link (admin can have that condition abort

libslang2 breaks jed

2006-08-16 Thread Jörg Sommer
Hi, I've two problems with libslang2. The first is, the package libslang2 includes a patch that changes the behaviour of a function. But jed expects the function behaviour as given in the original slang2 library. I've reported this bug #369152, 80 days ago, but the maintainer does not react. The u

Bug#383349: ITP: nifticlib -- IO libraries for the NIfTI-1 data format

2006-08-16 Thread Michael Hanke
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Hanke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: nifticlib Version : 0.3 Upstream Author : NIfTI Data Format Working Group * URL : http://niftilib.sourceforge.net/ * License : public domain Programming Lang: C Descrip

Bug#383316: ITP: fretsonfire -- game of musical skill and fast fingers

2006-08-16 Thread Miriam Ruiz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: fretsonfire Version : 1.0.192 Upstream Author : Sami Kyostila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.unrealvoodoo.org/ * License : GPL Description : game of musical sk

Re: Surpassing Microsoft quality

2006-08-16 Thread Ralph Katz
For me, there is no problem with OOo on sarge: ~$ uname -a Linux magic 2.6.8-3-686 #1 Sat Jul 15 10:32:25 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux libfreetype62.1.7-2.5 openoffice.org-writer 2.0.3-1bpo1 from backports.org Regards, Ralph -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subje

Re: Ifupdown 'extra' package with network ({pre,post}) testing scripts

2006-08-16 Thread Emanuele Rocca
Hello Javier, * Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [2006-08-15 19:41 +0200]: > I have written and collected some network testing scripts in a new > 'ifupdown-extra' package which is right now available in > http://people.debian.org/~jfs/ifupdown-extra > > This package provi

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-16 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 02:26:29PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > And guess what? System tests are actually more reliable, especially > when the user tells you what the system is. You can simply flip to > compiling foo_linux.c or foo_solaris.c and go on your way. This will never work. Real life

Trouble building heimdal using

2006-08-16 Thread Rüdiger Ranft
Hi list, I tried to build heimdal-0.7.2 using the testing source package for stable. The built itself went fine, but the splitting into subpackages failed. Also I have no clue how to fix the problem. So can anybody give me a tip what went wrong here? Since there is no 'binary:' target in rule

Re: cdrtools alternatives

2006-08-16 Thread George Danchev
On Tuesday 15 August 2006 13:17, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Nathanael Nerode: > >> In reality, as "user A", I switched to using cdrdao for making serious > >> audio CDs and CD-RWs, and for burning disks from .iso files: this uses > >> Schilling's scsilib, but not the rest