Bug#412919: ITP: predictive -- Text completion package for Emacs

2007-02-28 Thread Jan Alonzo
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jan Alonzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: predictive Version : 0.16 Upstream Author : Toby Cubitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.dr-qubit.org/emacs.php * License : GPL Programming Lang: Lisp Description

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-28 Thread Warren Turkal
On Wednesday 28 February 2007 01:19, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > In all fairness, you didn't seem to comment on his response to your > suggestion. I did comment on his suggestion. "Yes, it should start before NFS because its not just mounting a file system like NFS. It needs to make the block device

Re: incorrect path to locales? (might be rc)

2007-02-28 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
aha! Further poking around discovered that I have to provide LANGUAGE, and LC_ALL for correct locale selection: (I've ran it in non-utf8 terminal) ,--- | *$> LC_ALL=ru_RU.utf8 LANGUAGE=ru_RU.utf8 make | make: *

Custom repository and "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!"

2007-02-28 Thread Michael S. Peek
Hello gurus, I'm hoping someone can give me a hand. I have been running my own repository for a while now, and with the release of etch as the new stable just around the corner, I would like to add my own authentication to my repository. So I set up an install host running etch, put a repositor

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-28 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 07:26:24PM +0100, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le mercredi 28 février 2007 à 18:00 +0100, Sam Hocevar a écrit : > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > > But it seems like you maintain only few simple packages. > > > >Did you really just say

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-28 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 28 février 2007 à 18:00 +0100, Sam Hocevar a écrit : > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > But it seems like you maintain only few simple packages. > >Did you really just say that to Loïc Minier? Hey, that's true. He maintains many complicated packages, but only few simp

Re: On management

2007-02-28 Thread Christian Perrier
> I'm not sure what you're advocating, but in my experience, project > managers without the capacity to understand the technical issues of the > project that they are supposed to be managing are worse than useless. But project manageers who understand too well the technical issues involved are al

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-28 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007, Eduard Bloch wrote: > But it seems like you maintain only few simple packages. Did you really just say that to Loïc Minier? Amazed, -- Sam. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: On management

2007-02-28 Thread Wouter Verhelst
argl On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 05:46:05PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 02:58:12PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > It is my belief that such things could be avoided if we had proper > > release management. > > I'm quite utterly convinced that this is not true. I do agre

Re: incorrect path to locales? (might be rc)

2007-02-28 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
let me first proceed with your diagnostic steps: ,- | $> export | grep LC | #2 !3169 [0].:Wed Feb 28 11:51:20:. | belka:~ | $> LC_MESSAGE=ko_KR.utf8 locale | LANG=C | LANGUAGE=us | LC_CT

Re: On management

2007-02-28 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 02:58:12PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: [...] > of people running experimental. As GNOME 2.18 is scheduled in two > months, this means we will be lagging two versions behind upstream as > soon as we have released. What's wrong with that? Many packages lag behind. The kern

Re: incorrect path to locales? (might be rc)

2007-02-28 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 11:17:50AM -0500, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > doh - thanks! but problem persists... also I found that I was missing ko > locale > for make due to localepurge... I've removed it and reinstalled make. I've ran > dpkg-reconfigure locales and included ko_* locales... the same l

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-28 Thread Reid Priedhorsky
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:10:08 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > The other half of the problem that noone has talked about here yet, is > that the users are as responsive as the maintainers, i.e. pretty badly. > > Why do we have rotting unclosed bugs concerning old fixed issues ? > Why don't most user

Re: incorrect path to locales? (might be rc)

2007-02-28 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
doh - thanks! but problem persists... also I found that I was missing ko locale for make due to localepurge... I've removed it and reinstalled make. I've ran dpkg-reconfigure locales and included ko_* locales... the same luck since it works for you, I guess it most probably has to do with some conf

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-28 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Loïc Minier [Tue, Feb 27 2007, 06:51:05PM]: > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > > I already warned you about this privately in december; here's another > > "Warn"? You feel the need to warn me? Does bringing me to STFU make you > > happy or so? > > No; I warned you not to

Re: incorrect path to locales? (might be rc)

2007-02-28 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 10:39:25AM -0500, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > , > | *$> LC_MESSAGES=ko strace -fF -o /tmp/make.strace make > | make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. that

incorrect path to locales? (might be rc)

2007-02-28 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Dear All, I am packaging remake and found out that I could not enable messaging in other locales... I've tested on make -- the same story... it seems that libc6 looks for /usr/lib/locale/ whenever it should look under /usr/share/locale/. Pardon my ignorance if I am saying something RTFM since I

Re: On management

2007-02-28 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 10:31:37AM -0500, Clint Adams wrote: > > I would think that the same things that attract a technical individual > > could attract a non-technical individual. Desire to learn. Desire to > > contribute. Desire to build skills for resume or future employment. > > And so on.

Re: On management

2007-02-28 Thread Clint Adams
> I would think that the same things that attract a technical individual > could attract a non-technical individual. Desire to learn. Desire to > contribute. Desire to build skills for resume or future employment. > And so on. The thing is that the current NM process is heavily biased > toward

Re: On management

2007-02-28 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Heya, I certainly agree with some of things you said, as I also believe that Debian could profit from better management and/or planning in some areas, I don't think this would have made the timely release of etch possible. Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Back in September, it seeme

Re: how to request help for bugs (Re: 0-day bug forwarding and bug patching on ALL bugs)

2007-02-28 Thread Bart Martens
On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 08:51 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 11:39:54AM +0100, Bart Martens wrote: > > > > For a general call/cry for help for packages with many bugs, I would > > submit an RFH, RFA or O before the number of bugs becomes uncomfortable. > > Of course, this

Re: On management

2007-02-28 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 02:58:12PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Management is quite a different job that what most of us are doing. In > the real world, a good manager is as rare a resource as a good engineer, > and you need both to make a business running. The Debian project is > currently

Re: On management

2007-02-28 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 02:58:12PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > It should be obvious now that, with the delays the release is facing, > this decision was wrong. I'm not so sure. By not trying to push 2.16 in, you've probably been creating a lot less work for the release team than if you were t

On management

2007-02-28 Thread Josselin Mouette
Hi, it is certainly a bit too early to look back at the etch release process, as we still haven't released yet, but I'd like to share some thoughts on what happened. Please note that these are entirely personal views. Back in September, it seemed impossible to the GNOME team to bring GNOME 2.16 i

Re: how to request help for bugs (Re: 0-day bug forwarding and bug patching on ALL bugs)

2007-02-28 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 11:39:54AM +0100, Bart Martens wrote: > > For a general call/cry for help for packages with many bugs, I would > submit an RFH, RFA or O before the number of bugs becomes uncomfortable. > Of course, this probably won't work for all packages; it's not always so > simple. >

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Re: Bug#412704: ITP: ocaml-ao -- OCaml bindings for libao

2007-02-28 Thread Samuel Mimram
Hi, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 04:07:37PM +0100, Romain Beauxis wrote: >> Owner: Samuel Mimram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Given this, I guess you're already familiar with what I'm going to say, > but better safe then sorry ... > >> OCaml bindings for the cross platform audi

Re: 0-day bug forwarding and bug patching on ALL bugs

2007-02-28 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2007-02-28, Bernhard R. Link <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > anyway. Otherwise suggesting "you may forward it upstream and/or send a patch" > is a bad joke. Why is it a bad joke ? let us take `kmail' - it has around 2500 bugs in the upstream bugzilla - and 100 bugs not forwarded in debian. In or

who forwards bugs to upstream (Re: 0-day bug forwarding and bug patching on ALL bugs)

2007-02-28 Thread Bart Martens
On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 09:35 +0100, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070227 20:46]: > > You've read this correctly! Starting TEN YEARS AGO, we are in > > permanent bug triaging, bug forwarding, but patching party on ALL > > bugs, pick one before it's too late! > > >

how to request help for bugs (Re: 0-day bug forwarding and bug patching on ALL bugs)

2007-02-28 Thread Bart Martens
On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 09:20 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 08:46:11PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > (and hopefully this madness will now stop) > > We all know everyone can triage/patch/... whatever bug in the BTS. Yes of course. > > Still, if some team feels they

Re: 0-day bug forwarding and bug patching on ALL bugs

2007-02-28 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070227 20:46]: > You've read this correctly! Starting TEN YEARS AGO, we are in > permanent bug triaging, bug forwarding, but patching party on ALL > bugs, pick one before it's too late! > > You may immediately take any bugs which didn't receive due care and >

Re: 0-day bug forwarding and bug patching on ALL bugs

2007-02-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 09:20:57AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Of course that need to be done with a grain of salt, and I personally > found not particularly wise to chain three help requests in a row after > the first one, but that's totally. ^

Re: 0-day bug forwarding and bug patching on ALL bugs

2007-02-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 08:46:11PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > (and hopefully this madness will now stop) We all know everyone can triage/patch/... whatever bug in the BTS. Still, if some team feels they are understaffed and that they need triaging help since they are becoming overwhelmed by

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-28 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 03:41:57PM -0700, Warren Turkal wrote: > This is from the perspective of a non-DD systems administrator. While most > maintainers are good. Some are pretty lousy with regard to addressing issue > even when one is proactive about finding a solution. > > On Monday 26 Februa

Re: Bug#412704: ITP: ocaml-ao -- OCaml bindings for libao

2007-02-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 04:07:37PM +0100, Romain Beauxis wrote: > Owner: Samuel Mimram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Given this, I guess you're already familiar with what I'm going to say, but better safe then sorry ... > OCaml bindings for the cross platform audio output library. Please Cc: [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:51:13PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > maintainers not always responsing to bugs, then probably the simplest > thing to do would be to code up a view in the BTS that lists bugs that > have not had a maintainer response (filtering out responses that appear > to be from the bug

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-28 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 28 février 2007 à 02:02 +0100, Eduard Bloch a écrit : > #include > * Josselin Mouette [Tue, Feb 27 2007, 10:30:39AM]: > > Le mardi 27 février 2007 à 09:24 +0100, Eduard Bloch a écrit : > > > And how do you help a maintainer that does not admit that he needs help? > > > > I can't belie