Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-08 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 07 juin 2007 à 20:44 +0200, Pierre Habouzit a écrit : > symbol visibility support in gcc is not that old, and many upstream > don't use it (yet). libtool has supported -export-symbols since 1998 and -export-symbols-regex since 1999. > For them there is many many many private symbols in

Re: Touching a file in another package

2007-06-08 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 07 juin 2007 à 17:38 +0200, Andreas Barth a écrit : > Why don't you check for updates on another file as well, and just touch > this? In which case it is enough to check for updates in /usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules. I have already provided a gstreamer patch that checks it, but it seems t

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-08 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 09:24:48AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 12:59:38AM +0200, Michael Vogt wrote: > > The big new stuff is: > > - support for unattended installing security upgrades (via the > > unattended-upgrades package and the apt cronjob) > > This sounds ju

Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-08 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña] > Bastille uses it to distinguish releases. There seems to be others: Using /etc/debian_version is not a good idea. I know this because I tried to let popularity-contest collect its content to see what version of Debian were in use. Here is the list of values fr

Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-08 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ rpm -qf /etc/redhat-release redhat-release-5Client-5.0.0.9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ rpm -ql redhat-release /etc/issue /etc/issue.net /etc/pki/rpm-gpg /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-

Re: Bug#427976: ITP: vodovod -- lead the water from the house to the storage tank

2007-06-08 Thread Enrico Zini
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 08:58:08PM +0100, Jonny Lamb wrote: > thought this was some kind of joke at first. The short description at > least surely should be something like "Strategy game similar to Pipe > Mania and Pipe Dream" (I am pretending it is a strategy game), or > something along those lin

Re: Touching a file in another package

2007-06-08 Thread Loïc Minier
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007, Josselin Mouette wrote: > This is what a patch Loïc proposed to gnome-vfs does through a hook > system, but I don't like to add such complex things that have an impact > on a dozen packages to workaround a bug in a single package. What do you find complex? The "hook system"

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-08 Thread Luis Matos
Sex, 2007-06-08 às 09:58 +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine escreveu: > On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 09:24:48AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 12:59:38AM +0200, Michael Vogt wrote: > > > The big new stuff is: > > > - support for unattended installing security upgrades (via the >

Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-08 Thread Peter Makholm
Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Everybody can change this to something else. Isn't it better > to implement a >/usr/bin/debian-release > that contains an option to get the real version number that > is hard coded anywhere if /etc/debian_version was changed? Why not just use lsb_r

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-08 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 11:36:57AM +0100, Luis Matos wrote: > Sex, 2007-06-08 às 09:58 +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine escreveu: > > On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 09:24:48AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 12:59:38AM +0200, Michael Vogt wrote: > > > > The big new stuff is: >

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-08 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 12:26:50PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 06:21:03AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > How is what you describe different from what cron-apt already does? > > That's precisely why I asked for details about this feature :-) > > Anyhow, what I'

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 06:21:03AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > How is what you describe different from what cron-apt already does? That's precisely why I asked for details about this feature :-) Anyhow, what I'm missing from cron-apt is the ability to perform automatic upgrades only for st

cron-apt vs. unattended-upgrades, Was: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-08 Thread Reinhard Tartler
> How is what you describe different from what cron-apt already does? I'd suggest looking at the source of unnattended-upgrades. It checks if the package to be upgraded would trigger a conffile-changed question. If it does not, the upgrade is done, since it won't need manual intervention. If it wo

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-08 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 11:36:57AM +0100, Luis Matos wrote: > i have 2 servers that i only login for apt-get update && apt-get upgrade > -y, they are running sarge (yet) and only install security upgrades. > > These 2 server will not be put in danger by making the update && upgrade > in an autono

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-08 Thread Luis Matos
Sex, 2007-06-08 às 06:21 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez escreveu: > On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 11:36:57AM +0100, Luis Matos wrote: > > Sex, 2007-06-08 às 09:58 +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine escreveu: > > > On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 09:24:48AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 1

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-08 Thread Luis Matos
Sex, 2007-06-08 às 13:01 +0200, Gabor Gombas escreveu: > On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 11:36:57AM +0100, Luis Matos wrote: > > > i have 2 servers that i only login for apt-get update && apt-get upgrade > > -y, they are running sarge (yet) and only install security upgrades. > > > > These 2 server will

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 06:32:03AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > Well, if you run stable (without third-party sources), that is all you > will get along with the occasionaly point release. Of course, if you > are keeping up with security updates, then point releases won't normally > affect yo

Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-08 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 09:33:26AM +, Peter Makholm wrote: > But I have no idea where these information come from. According to > /etc/debian_version I'm running'lenny/sid'. This was discussed previously in the thread... > Hmmm, lsb_release seems to parse 'apt-cache policy' and hardcodes the

Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-08 Thread Steve Greenland
On 08-Jun-07, 03:35 (CDT), Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When that is said, I believe it is a good idea to split the Debian > version into its own package like RedHat do it, to make sure the > version can be updated without updating all the other files in > base-files. This wou

Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-08 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Andreas Tille] > While I like your idea in principle I wonder whether it is > really reasonable to put this information into a conffile. Not sure about that. My main point is that the content of /etc/debian_version should be changed independently of the changes done to base-files, and thus be s

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-08 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 08 Jun 2007, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 06:21:03AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > How is what you describe different from what cron-apt already does? > > That's precisely why I asked for details about this feature :-) > > Anyhow, what I'm missing from cron-a

Bug#428078: ITP: cultivation -- game about the interactions within a gardening community

2007-06-08 Thread Miriam Ruiz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: cultivation Version : 7 Upstream Author : Jason Rohrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://cultivation.sourceforge.net/ * License : Public domain Programming Lang: C++ De

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-08 Thread Michael Vogt
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 06:21:03AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 11:36:57AM +0100, Luis Matos wrote: > > Sex, 2007-06-08 às 09:58 +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine escreveu: > > > On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 09:24:48AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jun 07, 20

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-08 Thread Robert Millan
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 04:58:04PM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070523 11:00]: > > Could someone make a page with GPLv2-only software, I'd be curious what > > would be affected. Maybe the easiest way would be to dump and format a > > page on the Wiki so that it

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-08 Thread Michael Vogt
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 09:54:16AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, 07 Jun 2007, Michael Vogt wrote: > > I plan to do an apt 0.7.2 upload for sid this weekend. It's a big merge > > of the version in debian/experimental and the version in Ubuntu. > > Big thanks and kudos for your w

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Re: Why not move Apt to a relational database

2007-06-08 Thread Oleg Verych
* From: Justin Emmanuel * Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 10:55:01 +0100 Hallo, Justin. Hope, you are still here. > I am brand new to this mailing list, I joined it because I had an idea > that I would like to have considered. Moving apt to a relational > database, for several reasons. > > Based on a rela

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-08 Thread Junichi Uekawa
> > - automatic installation of recommends like aptitude > > I want to check how this will affect d-i. The Recommends tree is still > fairly hairy/unrefined and can result in a lot of crud being pulled in. > (See #388290. Though having them installed by default would certianly > add pressure to fi