Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged 'lenny-ignore'?

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 08:07:52AM +0200, Michal Čihař wrote: > At least ipw2100 drivers changed firmware name if they required > different version, so I guess this is also used by others... If they need an incompatible one. Not necessarily if they just need a newer one. Bastian -- Violence in

Re: How to indicate the license of our contributions to wiki.debian.org.

On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 15:03 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:56:43PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : > > > > Where do I record the fact that any contribution I have made to the > > web site or the wiki may be licensed under the GPL? > > How about http://wiki.debian.or

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged 'lenny-ignore'?

Hi Dne Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:25:59 +0200 Vincent Danjean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napsal(a): > Looking at your packages, I've a question. I see one package per firmware > without version number in the package name. > Do you think about a way to have different kernels that each requires > different fir

How to indicate the license of our contributions to wiki.debian.org.

Le Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:56:43PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : > > Where do I record the fact that any contribution I have made to the > web site or the wiki may be licensed under the GPL? How about http://wiki.debian.org/ManojSrivastava ? Have a nice day, -- CharlesPlessy -- To UNS

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged 'lenny-ignore'?

Ben Hutchings wrote: > I just wrote this: > > http://womble.decadent.org.uk/blog/for-those-who-care-about-firmware.html Hi, Thank you for your constructive work in this area. Looking at your packages, I've a question. I see one package per firmware without version number in the package name.

Re: Correct way to move /etc config files

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 07:32:48PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 01:00:34AM +0200, Luca Capello wrote: > > Hi there! > > > This mail originates from the discussion at [1]: simply, I need to move > > an /etc file (/etc/frameworkd.conf) from one package (fso-frameworkd) to >

Re: Correct way to move /etc config files

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 01:00:34AM +0200, Luca Capello wrote: > Hi there! > This mail originates from the discussion at [1]: simply, I need to move > an /etc file (/etc/frameworkd.conf) from one package (fso-frameworkd) to > another one (fso-config-gta02). > However, I don't really know the best

Re: Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Di, 21 Okt 2008, Luca Niccoli wrote: >> > raff.debian.org uses a Compaq Smart 5i RAID card. A flash memory is used >> > to store the firmware. While the firmware is freely downloadable (as in >> > beer) on HP website

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 18:45 -0500, Ean Schuessler wrote: > I guess the question is, staying in the arena of "100% Free", what if > DRM technologies become pervasive in the United States and Europe and > it literally becomes illegal to have a computer without some > proprietary software in it? What

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged 'lenny-ignore'?

Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I just wrote this: > > http://womble.decadent.org.uk/blog/for-those-who-care-about-firmware.html Great! Many thanks for this constructive work. -- \ “I was arrested today for scalping low numbers at the deli. | `\ Sold

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged 'lenny-ignore'?

On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 11:00 +0300, Teemu Likonen wrote: > Ben Finney (2008-10-21 17:37 +1100): > > > That's not the point being made: As I understand Manoj's point, it is > > that tagging a bug ‘lenny-ignore’ is an active decision that a > > particular bug, even if it represents a DFSG violation,

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > acceleration, right? So the box can be installed, and is usable for > non-gaming purposes. The drm stuff can possibly be gotten from non You can always use VESA, yes. I don't think the X.org driver can get an ATI GPU to work without the memory mana

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

- "Gunnar Wolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Umh, problem is the myriad of jurisdictions all over the world. This > would very easily become unfeasible. In the end, it ends up being each > user's responsability to obey the law the best way he can. Debian > helps as much as possible by only usi

Correct way to move /etc config files

Hi there! This mail originates from the discussion at [1]: simply, I need to move an /etc file (/etc/frameworkd.conf) from one package (fso-frameworkd) to another one (fso-config-gta02). However, I don't really know the best way to manage this situation and I cannot find any reference on the Debi

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ‘lenny-ignore’?

On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 15:55 -0200, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry if this breaks threading, I'm not on this list, I was merely > referred to the discussion through the archives. If you respond to > this e-mail, please address your replies directly to myself as well, > so that I can respon

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ‘lenny-ignore’?

On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 11:35 +0200, Michal Čihař wrote: > Hi > > Dne Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:00:54 +0100 > Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napsal(a): > > > The modified linux-2.6 and firmware-nonfree source packages, and the > > linux-source-2.6.26 and firmware-* binary packages, can be found in: >

Re: Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software

On Di, 21 Okt 2008, Luca Niccoli wrote: > > raff.debian.org uses a Compaq Smart 5i RAID card. A flash memory is used > > to store the firmware. While the firmware is freely downloadable (as in > > beer) on HP website [1], we don't have the corresponding source code. > > May I ask how many computer

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 17:06 -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > I worded that rather badly. You should imply "within acceptable terms of > the DFSG" here... in this case, putting stuff in the nonfree firmware > package in non-free is an acceptable solution. Of course; that's an excellent solution. Ri

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

Ean Schuessler dijo [Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 04:35:55PM -0500]: > > If I was going to suggest any kind of change to the Social Contract > at this point it would be: > > 6. Debian will obey the law > > We acknowledge that our users live in real communities in the real > world. We will support the nee

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 05:06:29PM -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 09:03 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Unfortunately, those who contribute to Debian must be dedicated to > > > ensuring future releases of Debian support the

Include justification in tagging bugs ‘$FOO-ign ore’

Howdy all, As I understand it, the ‘$FOO-ignore’ tag is a means to tell related tools that a bug should not be considered in the criteria for the release of $FOO. While the tools will do what they're told, it seems to me that such tags are mostly used to treat individual bugs as a special case. I

Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software

Le Tuesday 21 October 2008 22:28:31 Lennart Sorensen, vous avez écrit : > > If I recall well, one of the origin of the GNU fondation was the fact > > that having free drivers alowed one to actually *fix* issues he may have > > with his *own* hardware. Then, the very same reasoning can apply to > >

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 09:03 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Unfortunately, those who contribute to Debian must be dedicated to > > ensuring future releases of Debian support the latest available > > hardware at time of release. > > That's news to me. W

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Unfortunately, those who contribute to Debian must be dedicated to > ensuring future releases of Debian support the latest available > hardware at time of release. That's news to me. Where is such a dedication required? Is it some special reading of t

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

- "Thomas Bushnell BSG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 16:00 -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > > Unfortunately, those who contribute to Debian must be dedicated to > > ensuring future releases of Debian support the latest available hardware > > at time of release. Really do

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

On Tuesday 21 October 2008, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > This is a technical dispute? Whether your packages need to comply with > the DFSG? Isn't a dispute about alternative fixes for a bug a technical dispute? I thought that was your point. The violation itself is not a matter for the TC (altho

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 14:36 -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 16:27 -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 14:20 -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > > On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 23:28 +0300, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > > > > Would it be a good compromise between SCs

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 16:27 -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 14:20 -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 23:28 +0300, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > > > Would it be a good compromise between SCs #1, #3 and #4 if we made an > > > exhaustive list of non-free bits in

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 23:23 +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > On Tuesday 21 October 2008, you wrote: > > But, in fact, fixes are not welcome from the team. They have raised a > > major roadblock, allowing only one kind of fix which requires a lot of > > work, and rejecting anything simpler. > > Ever hear

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 14:20 -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 23:28 +0300, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > > Would it be a good compromise between SCs #1, #3 and #4 if we made an > > exhaustive list of non-free bits in main, and make it our goal that the > > list gets smaller between

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

On Tuesday 21 October 2008, you wrote: > But, in fact, fixes are not welcome from the team. They have raised a > major roadblock, allowing only one kind of fix which requires a lot of > work, and rejecting anything simpler. Ever hear of the Technical Committee? signature.asc Description: This i

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 23:28 +0300, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > Would it be a good compromise between SCs #1, #3 and #4 if we made an > exhaustive list of non-free bits in main, and make it our goal that the > list gets smaller between each release and not to add anything to > that list? I would be enti

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 16:00 -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > Unfortunately, those who contribute to Debian must be dedicated to > ensuring future releases of Debian support the latest available hardware > at time of release. No matter what our principles are? Wow. Why are we not equally committe

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 22:47 +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > On Tuesday 21 October 2008, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > I see. So the previous statement that "nobody is standing in the way" > > of a fix is simply not so. People certainly are standing in the way. > > That's nonsense. Uncoordinated NMUs

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ‘lenny-ignore’?

On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 12:56 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21 2008, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 07:30:23PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > >> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 07:16:12PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > >> > > >> > You cannot ask, so late in the release p

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 13:30 -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 14:59 -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > > If we waited for a release to be 100% perfect, it will likely take > > several more years. The good news is that the amount of inline firmware > > in the kernel is decreasin

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

On Tuesday 21 October 2008, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > I see. So the previous statement that "nobody is standing in the way" > of a fix is simply not so. People certainly are standing in the way. That's nonsense. Uncoordinated NMUs are never acceptable for packages that are in general activel

Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 01:30:42PM +0200, Romain Beauxis wrote: > Agreed, though it does not restrain us from asking for free firmware. > > If I recall well, one of the origin of the GNU fondation was the fact that > having free drivers alowed one to actually *fix* issues he may have with his >

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 14:59 -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > If we waited for a release to be 100% perfect, it will likely take > several more years. The good news is that the amount of inline firmware > in the kernel is decreasing. So, eventually, all non-DFSG > redistributable firmware can belong

Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:41:14AM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Package: general > Severity: serious > Justification: DFSG > > raff.debian.org uses a Compaq Smart 5i RAID card. A flash memory is used > to store the firmware. While the firmware is freely downloadable (as in > beer) on HP website

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

Would it be a good compromise between SCs #1, #3 and #4 if we made an exhaustive list of non-free bits in main, and make it our goal that the list gets smaller between each release and not to add anything to that list? -- * Sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology (T.P) *

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 21:21 +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > I am *happy* to code an acceptable solution, but I regard "not support > > the hardware for installation" as acceptable. > > I'm very glad that history has shown most developers disagree with you. > > > So I can

Re: [DRAFT] resolving DFSG violations

On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 20:24 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 05:52:28PM +, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > This is the part I am not comfortable with. I do not think the > > delegates have the powers to decide when enough progress has been made > > to violate a foun

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 10:38 -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 15:22 +, Anthony Towns wrote: > > Thomas: your continued inaction and unwillingness to code an acceptable > > solution to this issue, in spite of being aware of the problem since > > at least 2004 -- over four

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > I am *happy* to code an acceptable solution, but I regard "not support > the hardware for installation" as acceptable. I'm very glad that history has shown most developers disagree with you. > So I can upload an NMU right now that fixes the problem? No, it's not OK.

Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ‘lenn y-ignore’?

Hi, Sorry if this breaks threading, I'm not on this list, I was merely referred to the discussion through the archives. If you respond to this e-mail, please address your replies directly to myself as well, so that I can respond without further breaking threading. I applaud Debian's willingness,

Re: [DRAFT] resolving DFSG violations

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 05:52:28PM +, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21 2008, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > > > Though, when this software is central to all Debian (as the kernel is, > > or the glibc for the sunrpc issue, or mesa for the GLX code, or ...), > > then as it's a long and slow

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ‘ lenny-ignore’?

On Tue, Oct 21 2008, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 04:12:25PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: >> Howdy all, >> >> Have I missed some announcement that DFSG violations don't matter for >> the release of ‘lenny’? >> >> I ask because a whole lot of bug reports of DFSG violations have bee

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ‘ lenny-ignore’?

On Tue, Oct 21 2008, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 01:32:51PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Seems like there are patches stripping the kernel of these >> non-free blobs. So, how much would out hardware support be degraded? >> How many people are affected by these non

Re: [DRAFT] resolving DFSG violations

On Tue, Oct 21 2008, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Though, when this software is central to all Debian (as the kernel is, > or the glibc for the sunrpc issue, or mesa for the GLX code, or ...), > then as it's a long and slow work to either prune the firmware, or deal > with the copyright holders to re

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ‘ lenny-ignore’?

On Tue, Oct 21 2008, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 07:30:23PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 07:16:12PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: >> > >> > You cannot ask, so late in the release process, >> >> Some of these bugs have been known for *years*. In one

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 15:22 +, Anthony Towns wrote: > Thomas: your continued inaction and unwillingness to code an acceptable > solution to this issue, in spite of being aware of the problem since > at least 2004 -- over four years ago! -- means we will continue to do > releases with non-free s

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 08:29 +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:49:40 -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 22:26 +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > >> No, really. The kernel team are volunteers. Ordering them to do things > >> doesn't help at all;

Re: Bug Sprint - Oct 25 to Oct 30 - Register and eat cookies

Stefano Zacchiroli dijo [Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 07:50:59AM -0500]: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 02:11:04PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > Does bribing lucas into not using grid5k anymore works too ? :) > > Definitely! Please add it to the rules :) Can Lucas be bribed with cookies? I always noticed

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:55:00AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 11:43 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Interesting; Manoj's post isn't in the -vote archives on master. I wonder why that is? > > Actually, I think we need a GR on the lines of > > , > > | http

Bug#502986: ITP: libauthen-krb5-admin-perl -- Perl extension for MIT Kerberos 5 admin interface

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ansgar Burchardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libauthen-krb5-admin-perl Version : 0.11 Upstream Author : Andrew J. Korty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Authen-Krb5-Admin/ * License : BSD P

Bug#502980: ITP: ffc -- compiler for finite element variational forms

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Package name: ffc Version: 0.5.1 Upstream author: Anders Logg URL: http://www.fenics.org/wiki/FFC License: GPL Description: compiler for finite element variational forms The FEniCS Form Compiler FFC pr

Depending on update-inetd [was: Re: Bug Sprint - Oct 25 to Oct 30 - Register and eat cookies]

On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 14:39 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > I'm not sure that filing lots of bugs about missing Depends on > update-inetd really delays the release. Chris Lamb is fixing those bugs > faster than I file them anyway ;) You mean like this one? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepor

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violatio ns are tagged ‘lenny-ignore’?

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:00:54AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > PS: I've now managed to find firmware for qla1280 > , > tehuti > and > kaweth

Re: Bug Sprint - Oct 25 to Oct 30 - Register and eat cookies

On 21/10/08 at 14:11 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On mar, oct 21, 2008 at 11:57:48 +, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le mardi 21 octobre 2008 à 08:53 -0300, David Bremner a écrit : > > > So downgrading bugs to non-RC severity (with appropriate rationale) > > > does not count in the great cookie

Re: Bug Sprint - Oct 25 to Oct 30 - Register and eat cookies

Josselin Mouette wrote: > we are currently very close to release lenny which is most likely going > to be absolutely awesome. > > However, there are currently around 100 RC bugs remaining Apologies if this has already been brought up. Using the number RC bugs that a present in lenny and sid is

Re: Bug Sprint - Oct 25 to Oct 30 - Register and eat cookies

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 02:11:04PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Does bribing lucas into not using grid5k anymore works too ? :) Definitely! Please add it to the rules :) -- Stefano Zacchiroli -*- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 [EMAIL PROTECTED],pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<

Re: Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008, Romain Beauxis wrote: > If I recall well, one of the origin of the GNU fondation was the fact that > having free drivers alowed one to actually *fix* issues he may have with his > *own* hardware. Then, the very same reasoning can apply to binary firmware. Hardware can suff

Re: Bug Sprint - Oct 25 to Oct 30 - Register and eat cookies

On mar, oct 21, 2008 at 11:57:48 +, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 21 octobre 2008 à 08:53 -0300, David Bremner a écrit : > > So downgrading bugs to non-RC severity (with appropriate rationale) > > does not count in the great cookie contest? > > Of course it does count; added to the rules

Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:38:31AM +, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Romain Beauxis a écrit : > > Le Tuesday 21 October 2008 13:10:28 Peter Clifton, vous avez écrit : > >> Having no source-code for firmware is hardly that different to having a > >> completely open-source driver which does un-told magi

Re: Bug Sprint - Oct 25 to Oct 30 - Register and eat cookies

Le mardi 21 octobre 2008 à 08:53 -0300, David Bremner a écrit : > So downgrading bugs to non-RC severity (with appropriate rationale) > does not count in the great cookie contest? Of course it does count; added to the rules in the wiki page. -- .''`. : :' : We are debian.org. Lower your pr

Re: Bug Sprint - Oct 25 to Oct 30 - Register and eat cookies

At Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:43:01 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote > Fixing a RC bug means either of: > * Uploading a NMU that fixes the bug to unstable. > * Convincing, with a mail that details the rationale, a release > manager to tag the bug lenny-ignore. > * Convincing, in

Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software

On 2008-10-21 14:30, Romain Beauxis wrote: > Le Tuesday 21 October 2008 13:10:28 Peter Clifton, vous avez écrit : > >> Having no source-code for firmware is hardly that different to having a >> completely open-source driver which does un-told magic by poking >> un-documented registers in a compl

Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software

Romain Beauxis a écrit : > Le Tuesday 21 October 2008 13:10:28 Peter Clifton, vous avez écrit : >> Having no source-code for firmware is hardly that different to having a >> completely open-source driver which does un-told magic by poking >> un-documented registers in a complex chip. Think Intel gr

Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software

Le Tuesday 21 October 2008 13:10:28 Peter Clifton, vous avez écrit : > Having no source-code for firmware is hardly that different to having a > completely open-source driver which does un-told magic by poking > un-documented registers in a complex chip. Think Intel graphics before > they released

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

Am Dienstag, den 21.10.2008, 12:57 +0200 schrieb Pierre Habouzit: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 09:04:21AM +, Thomas Weber wrote: > > Am Dienstag, den 21.10.2008, 08:29 +0200 schrieb Marc Haber: > > > On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:49:40 -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >On

Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software

On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 12:45 +0200, Luca Niccoli wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > raff.debian.org uses a Compaq Smart 5i RAID card. A flash memory is used > > to store the firmware. While the firmware is freely downloadable (as in > > beer)

Re: mpeg encoder patents, Was: Bug#501190: ITP: moonlight

Aniruddha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I just wanted to say that sounds like a great idea. Thanks! > I really hope that the packages of debian-multimedia are included in > Debian someday. I currently don't have the impression that the maintainer(s) of http://debian-multimedia.org have any int

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violatio ns are tagged ‘lenny-ignore’?

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:08:57AM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Debian is violating the DFSG by using a non-DFSG license for its website > (see bug#238245). As the bug is opened for *years*, I suggest we proceed > with the removal of the website. > > Any volunteer to work on that? LOL, thanks

Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > raff.debian.org uses a Compaq Smart 5i RAID card. A flash memory is used > to store the firmware. While the firmware is freely downloadable (as in > beer) on HP website [1], we don't have the corresponding source code.

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 09:04:21AM +, Thomas Weber wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 21.10.2008, 08:29 +0200 schrieb Marc Haber: > > On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:49:40 -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 22:26 +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > > >> No, really. The k

Processed: closing #502959

Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > # go screw yourselves and do something useful, like find a bridge > close 502959 Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software 'close' is deprecated; see http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#closing. Bug closed, send any further explanatio

Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software

Le mardi 21 octobre 2008 11:41:14, vous avez écrit : > Package: general > Severity: serious > Justification: DFSG > > raff.debian.org uses a Compaq Smart 5i RAID card. A flash memory is used > to store the firmware. While the firmware is freely downloadable (as in > beer) on HP website [1], we don'

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ‘len ny-ignore’?

Hi Dne Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:00:54 +0100 Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napsal(a): > The modified linux-2.6 and firmware-nonfree source packages, and the > linux-source-2.6.26 and firmware-* binary packages, can be found in: > http://people.debian.org/~benh/firmware-removal/ > > Please test the

Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software

Package: general Severity: serious Justification: DFSG raff.debian.org uses a Compaq Smart 5i RAID card. A flash memory is used to store the firmware. While the firmware is freely downloadable (as in beer) on HP website [1], we don't have the corresponding source code. I suggest that someone work

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

Am Dienstag, den 21.10.2008, 08:29 +0200 schrieb Marc Haber: > On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:49:40 -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 22:26 +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > >> No, really. The kernel team are volunteers. Ordering them to do things > >> doesn't help

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violatio ns are tagged ‘lenny-ignore’?

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 01:32:51PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Seems like there are patches stripping the kernel of these > non-free blobs. So, how much would out hardware support be degraded? > How many people are affected by these non-free drivers? The drm modules: Anything which

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 03:49:40PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 22:26 +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > > If they were actively stopping people working on these issues then that > > would be different but I have not seen them doing this. > Great, so since there won't be any

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ‘lenny-ignore’?

Le mardi 21 octobre 2008 à 00:00 +0100, Ben Hutchings a écrit : > The modified linux-2.6 and firmware-nonfree source packages, and the > linux-source-2.6.26 and firmware-* binary packages, can be found in: > http://people.debian.org/~benh/firmware-removal/ Thanks for the summary. > Please test th

Re: mpeg encoder patents, Was: Bug#501190: ITP: moonlight

On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 16:44 +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> At the very least, we could distribute them in a specific "patented" > >> section, with rules similar to non-free, and that we’d only mirror in > >> countries where it is not a problem. >

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ‘lenny-ignore’?

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Debian is violating the DFSG by using a non-DFSG license for its website > (see bug#238245). As the bug is opened for *years*, I suggest we proceed > with the removal of the website. Same for the wiki (see bug #385797).

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violatio ns are tagged ‘lenny-ignore’?

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 07:30:23PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 07:16:12PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > > You cannot ask, so late in the release process, > > Some of these bugs have been known for *years*. In one of them, I even got > a reply saying something alon

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violatio ns are tagged ‘lenny-ignore’?

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 04:12:25PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > Howdy all, > > Have I missed some announcement that DFSG violations don't matter for > the release of ‘lenny’? > > I ask because a whole lot of bug reports of DFSG violations have been > tagged ‘lenny-ignore’ without explanation: > >

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged 'lenny-ignore'?

Ben Finney (2008-10-21 17:37 +1100): > That's not the point being made: As I understand Manoj's point, it is > that tagging a bug ‘lenny-ignore’ is an active decision that a > particular bug, even if it represents a DFSG violation, will not be > considered in the decision to release. > > To that e