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Re: Team uploads.

2010-03-10 Thread Luke Cycon
On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 10:08 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > As far as implementation details go, would it be a good idea to also > add dch --team, which would produce the right string for the purposes > of quieting lintian? I think that would be useful. I think if we don't do this, many will simply "w

Re: Team uploads.

2010-03-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > It was proposed in 2009 to formalise "Team uploads" in analogy to the "QA > uploads", as a special case of NMU, where most conventions are relaxed. As the initiator of the previous thread, I'd like to thank you for pushing this. As far as

Re: Bug#540215: Introduce dh_checksums

2010-03-10 Thread Ryan Niebur
[despite having not yet replied to this thread, I am watching it...I just don't have the desire to add to yet another giant, silly thread on -devel. anyways...] On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 12:21:42PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > > > Your comments on the patch are obviously welcome (feel free to hack >

Bug#573393: ITP: maven-release -- Maven Release Plugin

2010-03-10 Thread Gabriele Giacone
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Gabriele Giacone <1o5g4...@gmail.com> * Package name: maven-release Version : 2.0 Upstream Author : Release plugin team at http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-release-plugin/team-list.html * URL : http://maven.apache.org/plugin

Re: Bug#540215: Introduce dh_checksums, clear-signed checksum

2010-03-10 Thread The Fungi
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:22:00PM +0100, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > I made some tests, and it seems that we could allow,but not require, GPG > signed checksum-file. sha256sum will ignore invalid lines by default > (unless you specify --warn option). > > Similarly, the policy could state that GPG cle

Re: md5sums files

2010-03-10 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 03:06 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > I must say I was somewhat surprised by these numbers. Out of 2483 > packages installed on my laptop, 2340 install md5sums. While that > might've been useful at some point, I don't think it still is. Hi all, Can you think of any sensib

Re: Bug#540215: Introduce dh_checksums, clear-signed checksum

2010-03-10 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 10:52 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Peter Samuelson writes: > > [Wouter Verhelst] > > >> At any rate, a PGP signature takes a lot of data; much more so than > >> a checksum. It's therefore more economical to produce a signed > >> package.checksums file than it is to produce

Re: Bug#540215: Introduce dh_checksums

2010-03-10 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
Hello, On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 17:36 +0100, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 20:08 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > > > What about a transitional dh_md5sums that would produce md5sum AND > > > invoke dh_sha ? > > > > Or call it dh_checksums or something so we

Re: Very newbe help/pointers required about building a distribution from scratch

2010-03-10 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:52:57 + Neil Williams wrote: > > has anyone actually done this > > Yes. Me - I was cross-building the entire chain too. It took me the > best part of a year to get through 200 packages. i.e. SERIOUSLY > reconsider precisely how many packages you want to rebuild and ho

Re: Very newbe help/pointers required about building a distribution from scratch

2010-03-10 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:08:30 + Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: (When replying, please shorten the CC list, preferably only to the debian-embedded list.) > >> a bit like openembedded. It's much easier to not do things like OE and to actually build incrementally, putting dependencies int

Re: Very newbe help/pointers required about building a distribution from scratch

2010-03-10 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 07:20:04PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> yeah - i'd like to know how to do this, too. i installed buildd (and >> wannabuild) but there appears to be some "manual" steps involved, and >> i was kind-

Bug#573361: ITP: ltt-ust -- LTTng Userspace Tracer

2010-03-10 Thread Jon Bernard
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jon Bernard * Package name: ltt-ust Version : 0.3 Upstream Author : Pierre-Marc Fournier * URL : http://lttng.org/ * License : LGPL 2.1 Programming Lang: C Description : LTTng Userspace Tracer The userspace trac

Re: Bug#572374: please consider Section: Education

2010-03-10 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 07:58:15PM +0100, Ana Guerrero wrote: > Yes, but as long as we are also using the archive sections, we should improve > them. ACK. > We will always have software fitting in several section, and we never will > solve > that problem as long as we use them. ACK. > What yo

Re: Bug#573345: ITP: radare2 -- free advanced command line hexadecimal editor

2010-03-10 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 19:06:18 (CET), Sebastian Reichel wrote: > Note: radare2 coexists with radare1 and the binary of this package is > called radare2, so I name the source package radare2, too. But I don't > plan to continue maintaining radare1. I will ask for removal once radare2 > is in the

Re: dsniff is dead, long life to dsniff

2010-03-10 Thread Luciano Bello
So, I'm going to upload a new package (python-dsniff) and maintain (or co-maintain, with faidon) dsniff (the classical one) in the meantime. Personally, I'm going to leave the dsniff maintenance when python-dsniff becomes a comparable alternative. Thanks for all your opinions, luciano -- T

Re: Bug#572374: please consider Section: Education

2010-03-10 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 01:40:07PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > I agree with Andreas here: we already have other ways to classify software, in > particular with the Debtags, and to group packages, in particular with the > Blends tasks, so fragmenting the sections will only introduce doubts and >

Re: Bug#540215: Introduce dh_checksums

2010-03-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Peter Samuelson writes: > [Wouter Verhelst] >> At any rate, a PGP signature takes a lot of data; much more so than >> a checksum. It's therefore more economical to produce a signed >> package.checksums file than it is to produce a package.pgpsigs. > Huh? Since asymmetric cryptography is so com

Bug#573349: ITP: libkcompat -- Linux kernel compatibility library for userspace applications

2010-03-10 Thread Jon Bernard
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jon Bernard * Package name: libkcompat Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Pierre-Marc Fournier * URL : http://lttng.org/ * License : LGPL 2.1 Programming Lang: C Description : Linux kernel compatibility library for

Bug#573345: ITP: radare2 -- free advanced command line hexadecimal editor

2010-03-10 Thread Sebastian Reichel
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sebastian Reichel * Package name: radare2 Version : 0.4 Upstream Author : pancake * URL : http://www.radare.org/ * License : LGPL, imported GPL and BSD code Programming Lang: C; Bindings for: Perl, Python, Ruby, Vala

Bug#573347: ITP: libhash-multivalue-perl -- module for storing multiple values per key in a hash

2010-03-10 Thread Jonathan Yu
Package: wnpp Owner: Jonathan Yu Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libhash-multivalue-perl Version : 0.08 Upstream Author : Tatsuhiko Miyagawa * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Hash-MultiValue

Bug#573341: ITP: libmath-gradient-perl -- module for calculating smooth numerical transitions

2010-03-10 Thread Jonathan Yu
Package: wnpp Owner: Jonathan Yu Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libmath-gradient-perl Version : 0.04 Upstream Author : Tyler MacDonald * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Math-Gradient/ * Lic

Re: source package descriptions: subtsvars are not enough

2010-03-10 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Stefano Zacchiroli] > To fix that, it seems to me that the most reasonable solution > advanced in the thread is to add a proper "Description" field to > source package stanzas. Then, in addition, we can setup an automatic > substvar, whose content is the source description, that can then be > use

Re: Bug#540215: Introduce dh_checksums

2010-03-10 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Wouter Verhelst] > At any rate, a PGP signature takes a lot of data; much more so than > a checksum. It's therefore more economical to produce a signed > package.checksums file than it is to produce a package.pgpsigs. Huh? Since asymmetric cryptography is so computationally expensive, PGP neve

Re: Removing the manpage requirement for GUI programs?

2010-03-10 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2010-03-10 13:52:15 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Or it might have a gzipped PDF file, which is even more annoying, > for it requires me to copy, uncompress, read, remove the > documentation. zxpdf from xpdf-reader can handle it. But I wonder why the need for two separate commands while the f

Best practices for OpenPGP keys?

2010-03-10 Thread Drew Scott Daniels
Hi, Is there any good documentation about best practices for OpenPGP key management? I plan to use gnupg (gpg), as it's conventional and seems like the "best of breed" these days. Most documentation I've found seems significantly out of date (including long discussions of incompatibilities with ve

Re: Bug#540215: Introduce dh_checksums

2010-03-10 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 12:59:00PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Frank Lin PIAT writes: > > > Find a patch attached, for a smooth transition from DEBIAN/md5sums to a > > recent checksum. > > > The way it is implemented, is that the dh_md5sums is a symlink to the > > new dh_checksums. The new help

Re: [Rant] Re: Removing the manpage requirement for GUI programs?

2010-03-10 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 09:50:12AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le vendredi 05 mars 2010 à 17:41 +, brian m. carlson a écrit : > > This still has the problem that I don't know immediately where to get > > the documentation. Do I use the GNOME help system? KDE's? man? info? > > a DVI? a

Re: source package descriptions: subtsvars are not enough

2010-03-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 02:31:10PM +0100, Hector Oron wrote: > Would Packages file size decrease applying your suggestion? > Is there any chance to use this change to shrink Packages file size? No, this proposal is completely orthogonal to that (and IMO should remain so): we're talking about chang

Re: Removing the manpage requirement for GUI programs?

2010-03-10 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 04:36:56PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > I can’t help noticing, though, that it would only duplicate > functionality that is already present in search engines of desktop help > systems (which are also able to search in manual pages, FWIW). I can't help noticing, though,

Re: source package descriptions: subtsvars are not enough

2010-03-10 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2010/3/10 Stefano Zacchiroli : > The obvious drawback is that Sources file will increase in size. Given > that the size will be small compared to Packages file, I personally > don't see it as a showstopper. Would Packages file size decrease applying your suggestion? Is there any chance to

Re: source package descriptions: subtsvars are not enough

2010-03-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 01:58:21PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > You completely misparsed my answer/suggestion. My suggestion is to follow Sorry for not having been clear: I did not misunderstood your suggestion, in fact ... > > To fix that, it seems to me that the most reasonable solution adva

Re: source package descriptions: subtsvars are not enough

2010-03-10 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > - It is not standardized: substvars are set via custom commands in > debian/rules and there are thousands ways of setting them. When > opening a random source package, one would not know where exactly to > look for the common part of source pac

Re: Removing the manpage requirement for GUI programs?

2010-03-10 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 03:53:14PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Daniel Leidert > wrote: > > > What's the problem, to write a short manual page, that points to the > > --help switch? All the maintainer would have to do is to provide the > > intention of the command, po

source package descriptions: subtsvars are not enough

2010-03-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 11:05:14AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > It would be nice to have support for a Description field in the source > > stanza of debian/control. So, beside a few notable exceptions, the thread has a bit drifted to a set of appreciations on the idea of using substvars to fa

Raj Kumar would like to add you as a friend on Skoost

2010-03-10 Thread Raj Kumar
Williams Orellana We have a mutual friend on Skoost and I'd like to add you as my friend, Raj Kumar. To confirm, follow the link below: http://www.skoost.com/social/?pid=5940686&eml=debian-de...@lists.debian.org&fid=11244287&blk=0&pge=12 Skoost

Pramod Kumar would like to add you as a friend on Skoost

2010-03-10 Thread Pramod Kumar
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Vaishnav Kumar would like to add you as a friend on Skoost

2010-03-10 Thread Vaishnav Kumar
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Re: need help of Octave language expert

2010-03-10 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
Hi Thomas, On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:34:33 +0100, Thomas Weber wrote: > I'm cc'ing debian-devel, so people see that there is an answer. If > whoever wants to continue the discussion, please strongly consider > dropping debian-devel -- the list is noisy enough. Sorry for additional noise. > Directl