* Russ Allbery [2011-03-28 17:20 -0700]:
> Practically speaking, I think bash is going to have to remain essential.
> There are innumerable scripts, package build rules, maintainer scripts,
> and other things in Debian referencing /bin/bash without declaring a
> dependency, ...
I agree.
> So, I t
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Ben Finney writes:
> Luk Claes writes:
>> Well, by making dash the default *system* shell. bash is still the
>> default user shell.
> So, does that mean ‘bash’ and ‘dash’ should both remain essential?
Practically speaking, I think bash is going to have to remain essential.
There are innumerabl
Luk Claes writes:
> On 03/28/2011 12:05 PM, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > On Sonntag, 27. März 2011, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> >> # which packages are essential affects the entire distribution
> >> reassign 619820 general
> >
> > For the distro we have solved^wdecided this by making dash the default
On 2011-03-28, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> But I'd think that "making sure this buildd host can still do uploads in
> a timely manner when the key expires" is pretty well inside the realm of
> the buildd admin's responsibility.
And manual signing wouldn't be timely?
I talked with Joerg at the meeti
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> And how would users then get those files? If you have a kernel without
> udf filesystem support then apt/aptitude/... would suddenly fail to find
> some files. Same if udf isn't the default filesystem for cds.
That's what the Rock Ridge extensions are for.
--
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On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 03:57:47AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> >So
> >currently, all packages that ship upstart jobs in Ubuntu carry a delta
> >between Debian and Ubuntu (or do some fancy stepping in debian/rules to make
> >the upstart job visible only under the right circumstances) because the
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 6:43 PM, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:
>> Compatible with what? Bugs in other implementations?
>> What does that really gain us?
>
> The ability for the discs to be read on as many systems as possible. I'm
> not going to pretend to know what all someone else may need to do wi
On 03/29/2011 03:05 AM, Steve Langasek wrote:
This is my fault, I'm afraid.
Oh, another Vincent Cerf? :)
So
currently, all packages that ship upstart jobs in Ubuntu carry a delta
between Debian and Ubuntu (or do some fancy stepping in debian/rules to make
the upstart job visible only under th
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011, Mark Hymers wrote:
> The main decision which needs to be made is whether, as a project,
> we want source only uploads or to throw away DD built non-all debs.
There are two separate decisions here.
One is whether we throw away DD built debs (non-all, or
everything.[0])
The se
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 01:06:00PM +0200, Soren Hansen wrote:
> > But, if I'm not mistaking, there are things that unfortunately *have*
> > to change, like the Ubuntu package using upstart-job.
> I've tried, several times, to explain to you that the dependency on
> upstart-job exists *exclusively*
Hi Phil,
[ Note: re-reading, I find that my mail could be read as "heated", which
it wasn't meant to be. I'm firm in what I believe needs to be done, but
not angry :-) ]
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 03:08:12PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote:
> > So, AIUI, only members of the wbadm GID can change keys, not
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 01:26:02PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> Hi
>
> >> - The long standing project of enabling autosigning for the buildds also
> >> got finished. That means that packages successfully built can now be
> >> uploaded automatically, without waiting for the buildd admin to wak
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:
Olaf van der Spek wrote:
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 5:55 PM, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:
Olaf van der Spek wrote:
That's not our problem, is it?
It is, if we are trying to be as compatible as possible.
Compatible with what? Bugs in other impl
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> On 03/28/2011 04:37 PM, Mark Hymers wrote:
> > The main decision which needs to be made is whether, as a project, we
> > want source only uploads or to throw away DD built non-all debs.
> > There's not entire agreement amongst the ftpmasters about this (I
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On 03/28/2011 12:05 PM, Holger Levsen wrote:
> reassign 619820 dash,bash
> block 619820 by 540512
> thanks
>
> On Sonntag, 27. März 2011, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
>> # which packages are essential affects the entire distribution
>> reassign 619820 general
>
> For the distro we have solved^wdecided
On 2011-03-28, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> On 03/28/2011 04:37 PM, Mark Hymers wrote:
>> The main decision which needs to be made is whether, as a project, we
>> want source only uploads or to throw away DD built non-all debs.
>> There's not entire agreement amongst the ftpmasters about this (I err on
In gmane.linux.debian.devel.general Joey Hess wrote:
> Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> There are uses I've heard about, including (apparently quite common)
>> using CDs and DVDs to seed a mirror on a Windows server.
> If I had to chose between that working, and not needing to worry about
> filename leng
Olaf van der Spek wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 5:55 PM, John H. Robinson, IV
> wrote:
> > Olaf van der Spek wrote:
> > > That's not our problem, is it?
> >
> > It is, if we are trying to be as compatible as possible.
>
> Compatible with what? Bugs in other implementations?
> What does that r
On 03/28/2011 04:37 PM, Mark Hymers wrote:
> The main decision which needs to be made is whether, as a project, we
> want source only uploads or to throw away DD built non-all debs.
> There's not entire agreement amongst the ftpmasters about this (I err on
> the side of the source-only uploads to a
On Mon, 28, Mar, 2011 at 11:54:29AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli spoke thus..
> Related to this, in your agendas you did mention the topic of "throwaway
> DD built .debs". I understand from the minutes that no specific hacking
> on that has been done (understandably given how much other stuff has
> be
On 03/28/2011 07:06 PM, Soren Hansen wrote:
2011/3/28 Thomas Goirand:
On 03/28/2011 03:18 AM, Soren Hansen wrote:
2011/3/27 Thomas Goirand:
For years, Debian Developers have shouted and screamed whenever
someone in Ubuntu added something as benign as a patch system (so
that their indvidual chan
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On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:25:13AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 10:56:28AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> > - The long standing project of enabling autosigning for the buildds also
> > got finished. That means that packages successfully built can now be
> > uploaded au
Hi
>> - The long standing project of enabling autosigning for the buildds also
>> got finished. That means that packages successfully built can now be
>> uploaded automatically, without waiting for the buildd admin to wake
>> up/come back from holiday/whatever. The rules for this are simple
Heyho!
[bts down?]
Note that Googlebot or other bots sometimes hit (some of) the bts mirrors
quite hard.
I repeatedly had the case where using a different bts mirror (via static
entry in /etc/hosts) temporarily helped.
cheers
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On 03/28/2011 06:28 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:23, LUK ShunTim wrote:
>>
>> "$ reportbug linux-image-2.6.38-1-amd64
>> ...
>> Querying Debian BTS for reports on linux-2.6 (source)...
>> Unable to connect to Debian BTS; continue [y|N|?]?"
>>
>> Using a longer timeout optio
2011/3/28 Thomas Goirand :
> On 03/28/2011 03:18 AM, Soren Hansen wrote:
>> 2011/3/27 Thomas Goirand:
>> For years, Debian Developers have shouted and screamed whenever
>> someone in Ubuntu added something as benign as a patch system (so
>> that their indvidual changes would be easier to absorb bac
On 03/26/2011 11:28 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 15:41, LUK ShunTim wrote:
>> I've not been able to connect to BTS using reportbug and only got the
>> "Unable to connect to Debian BTS" message. Is BTS down?
>
> I had similar problems minutes ago, but now it seems working.
>
>
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:23, LUK ShunTim wrote:
> On 03/26/2011 11:28 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote:
>> On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 15:41, LUK ShunTim wrote:
>>> I've not been able to connect to BTS using reportbug and only got the
>>> "Unable to connect to Debian BTS" message. Is BTS down?
>>
>> I had sim
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org:
> reassign 619820 dash,bash
Bug #619820 [general] either bash or dash should be enough
Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'dash,bash'.
> block 619820 by 540512
Bug #619820 [dash,bash] either bash or dash should be enough
Was not blocked by any
reassign 619820 dash,bash
block 619820 by 540512
thanks
On Sonntag, 27. März 2011, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> # which packages are essential affects the entire distribution
> reassign 619820 general
For the distro we have solved^wdecided this by making dash the default shell.
cheers,
Hol
On 03/28/2011 03:18 AM, Soren Hansen wrote:
2011/3/27 Thomas Goirand:
I already started in fact. I took the work made in Ubuntu, and did a
bit of rework (I didn't like the rules.tiny debhelper style with so
many overrides, or the fact that the rules didn't use setup.py...).
For years, Debian D
Hi,
Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote:
>> xorriso -as mkisofs -o test.iso -J -joliet-long -graft-points \
>> /012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234
>> 5678901234567890123456789=/some/file/on/disk
>
> Didn't worked over here with an uptodate Windows X
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 10:56:28AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> Hello world,
>
> as previously announced[1] we had a FTPMaster meeting in the
> LinuxHotel[2] in Essen during the week from March 21st till 27th. While
> there have been[3] quite[4] a number[5] of blog[6] posts[7] about this
> meetin
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On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 09:41:31PM +0200, Soren Hansen wrote:
> Let me put this differently..
>
> If there's a DD out there who wants to work *with* us and get OpenStack
> (and all its dependencies, which is really the tedious part) into
> Debian, I'd the *thrilled* to work with you. There's a num
Hi!
Am 28.03.2011 11:23, schrieb Thomas Schmitt:
> Test reports from reading such an ISO image by a real Windows machine
> would be interesting ... :)
> E.g. with a file name of 100 characters:
>
> xorriso -as mkisofs -o test.iso -J -joliet-long -graft-points \
>
> /01234567890123456
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 10:56:28AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> - The long standing project of enabling autosigning for the buildds also
> got finished. That means that packages successfully built can now be
> uploaded automatically, without waiting for the buildd admin to wake
> up/come bac
Hi,
some technical facts about name lenght in Debian ISO 9660 images:
Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> What happens if you try to put too-long filenames on the CD with Joliet
> enabled?
libisofs, which produces the Debian i386 and amd64 images, truncates
oversized Joliet names. Collisions get resolved b
On 28/03/11 at 14:08 +0530, Deepak Tripathi wrote:
> At Fri, 4 Mar 2011 09:59:47 +0100,
> Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> >
> Lucas/Antonio,
> Thanks for all your good work, going through all mail thread and wiki, I have
> couple of questions.
>
> 1) All existing packages will be renamed or only new pack
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At Fri, 4 Mar 2011 09:59:47 +0100,
Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>
Lucas/Antonio,
Thanks for all your good work, going through all mail thread and wiki, I have
couple of questions.
1) All existing packages will be renamed or only new packages will be updated.
2) After renaming, package will be in experim
Magnus Holmgren writes:
> libtar popped up on wnpp-alert, so I ITAd it, but now I'm having second
> thoughts. I've done one upload now though.
>
> - No new releases since 2003. Upstream hasn't bothered building a dynamic
> library, that's a Debian patch (and a corresponding patch in other distr
Joey Hess writes:
> Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> There are uses I've heard about, including (apparently quite common)
>> using CDs and DVDs to seed a mirror on a Windows server.
>
> If I had to chose between that working, and not needing to worry about
> filename lengths, I'd choose the latter.
>
>>
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