Re: compiling without -O2 ld shared lib errors

2011-04-11 Thread Simon McVittie
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 at 09:33:25 +1000, Brian May wrote: > Am thinking the best solution might be to wrap the entire ntlm_service > function with the same #if __APPLE__ ... #endif, as that appears to be the > only reference to ntlm_service, and I think the static definition means it > can't be refer

Re: plan to clean up unstable

2011-04-11 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 19:54:33 +0200, Torsten Werner wrote: > Am -10.01.-28163 20:59, schrieb Mehdi Dogguy: >> can't this limit to 2009 be pushed further? what would be the difference >> if we consider 2010, or 2011? (Just want to see the impact). > > 800 packages would be affected if the

Re: compiling without -O2 ld shared lib errors

2011-04-11 Thread Brian May
On 8 April 2011 20:11, Simon McVittie wrote: > You can work around it with -Wl,--add-needed in LDFLAGS, or fix it properly > by including -lheimntlm in the LIBADD/LDADD for whatever you're linking. Thanks. Thought this might be the case. However, that doesn't explain why it magically when comp

Re: plan to clean up unstable

2011-04-11 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Torsten Werner , 2011-04-11, 21:03: 3. These packages are non-free, non-auto-buildable, and have no RC bug filed: amiwm dgen libapache-mod-fastcgi lmbench nttcp q-tools sgb teamspeak-server I was aware of some of them but thanks for the update. If we remove old binaries, they'll migrate t

Re: "Python2.6 as default"

2011-04-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
Barry Warsaw wrote: >On Apr 09, 2011, at 01:38 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >>We've treated python and python3 as separate runtime environments. We >also >>have a default python3 (just in the middle of transitioning to 3.2). >The >>only meaningful change that would make python3 the 'default pyt

Re: "Python2.6 as default"

2011-04-11 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 09, 2011, at 01:38 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >We've treated python and python3 as separate runtime environments. We also >have a default python3 (just in the middle of transitioning to 3.2). The >only meaningful change that would make python3 the 'default python' is if we >pointed /usr/b

Bug#622288: ITP: flare -- Flare (Free/Libre Action Roleplaying Engine) is a base engine for isometric-view action roleplaying video games.

2011-04-11 Thread hennr
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: hennr * Package name: flare Version : 0.12 Upstream Author : Clint Bellanger <> * URL : http://clintbellanger.net/rpg/ * License : (GPL, CC-BY-SA) Programming Lang: (C++) Description : Flare (Free/Libre Action Ro

Re: Re: plan to clean up unstable

2011-04-11 Thread Torsten Werner
Am -10.01.-28163 20:59, schrieb Jakub Wilk: > 1. These packages were uploaded recently: > > altree guile-cairo nyquist > > How about giving maintainers/autobuilders a little more time? > > 2. libmowgli is in the middle of a transition, and there are still some > reverse dependencies of its old v

Re: plan to clean up unstable

2011-04-11 Thread Torsten Werner
Am -10.01.-28163 20:59, schrieb Mark Hymers: > Torsten, do you think we should add this to the cruft-report output? > Maybe using a two year cut off or something (entirely arbitrary) so that > they'd be listed at http://ftp-master.debian.org/cruft-report-daily.txt ? Why not. It would be a good exe

Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-11 Thread Roger Leigh
With the transition to /run and /run/lock as tmpfs filesystems, it would be desirable to provide sensible default size limits. Currently, we default to the tmpfs default of ½ RAM. But with several tmpfs filesystems, this does have the potential for the system to be OOMed by a user filling up more

Re: Bug#620848: linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64: unable to enumerate usb device 6 (UPDATE)

2011-04-11 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi all, got the same bug also with kernel 2.6.38-2-amd64. Just for info. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201104111821.18762.hans.ullr...@loop.de

Re: network-manager as default? No! (was: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy)

2011-04-11 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 11 avril 2011 à 13:18 +0200, Michelle Konzack a écrit : > I think, DI has to support a Fast-Install-Option for Desktop and Server > where the first one installs NM by default and the second one IFUPDOWND. This is what is already done for squeeze. If OTOH we get d-i to run NM natively,

Re: Shipping /bin/sh [Re: Moving bash from essential/required to important?]

2011-04-11 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 11:58:09AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Bastian Blank writes: > > On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 02:18:49AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> Here I think we can go one of two ways: > >> 2) "bootstrap" scripts are only executed after the owners (Pre-)Depends > >> hav

Re: Criterion of a good computer system; was Re: Back to technical discussion? Yes!

2011-04-11 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: > > ... not all that complexity has to be exposed by default. > > Yes, needless complexity in an algorithm reduces efficiency > in execution. Needless complexity in an interface reduces > efficiency in use. http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/one-a

Re: Shipping /bin/sh [Re: Moving bash from essential/required to important?]

2011-04-11 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Adam Borowski writes: > On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 11:42:12PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 06:52:41PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: >> > We have the same problem with awk since ages. We should fix both >> > problems together. Therefor I propose the following: >> >> - An esse

Re: System users: removing them

2011-04-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Lars Wirzenius writes ("Re: System users: removing them"): > Thus, I propose to change 9.2.2 "UID and GID classes", the paragraph on > uids in the range 100-999, to add the following sentence to the end of > the paragraph: > > Packages must not remove system users and groups they have >

Bug#622239: RFP: python-iview -- alternative frontend to ABC iView

2011-04-11 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-pyt...@lists.debian.org * Package name: python-iview Version : 0.2 Upstream Author : Jeremy Visser * URL : http://jeremy.visser.name/2009/08/30/python-iview/ * License : GPL

Re: network-manager as default? No! (was: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy)

2011-04-11 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Jon Dowland, Am 2011-04-11 12:02:09, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: > And you wouldn't be - because, once again - you are not forced to use whatever > the default solution is, you have the freedom to switch to another, just like > people who currently *do* use network-manager have taken adv

Re: network-manager as default? No! (was: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy)

2011-04-11 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Jon Dowland, Am 2011-04-11 10:37:54, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: > On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 02:11:38PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > Installing NM by default will break systems which where running the last > > 12 years without flaws. > No, it will not. It will not impact *running* s

Re: network-manager as default? No! (was: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy)

2011-04-11 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 02:18:38PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > This is Exacly what I mean with NM. I do not wan to be bothered with > reading some hours documentations on how to tweek NM to work with my > four 10GE NICs. And you wouldn't be - because, once again - you are not forced t

Re: network-manager as default? No! (was: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy)

2011-04-11 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 02:11:38PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Installing NM by default will break systems which where running the last > 12 years without flaws. No, it will not. It will not impact *running* systems at all. It will only impact newly installed systems. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: alpha and hppa removal from unstable/experimental

2011-04-11 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 04/10/2011 09:22 PM, Colin Tuckley wrote: >> (Although, now that I think about it, it's probably hard for alpha to be >> considered a viable architecture, unless there is new hardware being >> produced and sold.) > > There needs to be enough reliable hardware available to maintain the > port. W