> Am 2011-10-13 13:06:49, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
> > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:02:11PM +0200, Luca Capello wrote:
> > > On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 05:34:52 +0200, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > > > For most users, these questions will duplicate the process
> > > > they later go through to configur
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Norbert Preining wrote:
> Not a solution for the interactive mode, or am I wrong?
Not AFAICT, I only read the documentation rather than the code though.
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Hi Paul,
On Fr, 14 Okt 2011, Paul Wise wrote:
> > Is there such an option? And if not, can we please please have one?
>
> aptitude safe-upgrade has been around for years.
Not a solution for the interactive mode, or am I wrong?
Best wishes
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On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Norbert Preining wrote:
> Is there such an option? And if not, can we please please have one?
aptitude safe-upgrade has been around for years.
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On 2011-10-14 02:28 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> My plan is to write a script which moves to /usr all the binaries in
> /bin and /sbin (taking care of the few cases which actually are links
> to /) and then converts the directories to symlinks to /usr/bin and
> /usr/sbin.
> After this I will try
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> share /usr between multiple systems today; but nobody does it, because
> - Keeping your software on a central fileserver introduces a single
> point of failure that you don't have if you don't do the central
> fileserver thing
That sound
Hi everyone, esp aptitude masters,
how can I teach aptitude to not be sooo incredible stupid?
In the current transition to gnome3 (or it seems) I press
U
to update all packages, and then it suggests me to remove 30 or
so packages.
I know this game, normally I have to press "." a few times
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:08 AM, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> Can you point me at some examples?
The default setup when choosing full-disk encryption in d-i.
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> Michelle Konzack writes:
> Am 2011-10-13 12:13:56, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
>> The user will not be notified even if the daemons send a mail to
>> them. I don't think any of the desktops GUIs that we ship know
>> anything about the local mail queue unless explicitly configure
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Hello Paul,
Am 2011-10-13 12:13:56, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
> The user will not be notified even if the daemons send a mail to them.
> I don't think any of the desktops GUIs that we ship know anything
> about the local mail queue unless explicitly configured in an MUA, nor
> do they notify
Hello Josh Triplett,
Am 2011-10-13 13:06:49, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:02:11PM +0200, Luca Capello wrote:
> > On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 05:34:52 +0200, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > > For most users, these questions will duplicate the process
> > > they later go through
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:57:29PM +0200, Frank Steinborn wrote:
> Josh Triplett wrote:
> > ...which produce output to somewhere other than a log file, in some
> > scenario other than "being buggy and accidentally producing output", and
> > which expect end users to read their output, and which the
Hello Wouter and *,
since August 2011 I run an Experimanental-Cloud with 20 IBM eServe x345
and 40 IBM eServer x335... Enough machines to play with it.
Since 3 weeks I now have my two 400V/32A/3P CEE Wallets for my two
Severracks in my office.
Am 2011-10-13 19:38:12, hacktest Du folgende
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested
through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the
last week.
Total number of orphaned packages: 396 (new: 1)
Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 143 (new: 12)
Total number of packages reques
On Oct 14, Charles Plessy wrote:
> If the merge in /usr is implemented in the base-files package, it means that
> existing systems will not be automatically converted. So to support the
> systems combining where the root filesystem is not supported by bootloaders
> and
> where the disk is small
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* License : GPL3
Programming Lang: Emacs Lisp
Description : A simple
Le Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 04:12:07PM +0100, Steve McIntyre a écrit :
> Marco wrote:
> >On Oct 13, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
> >> Some systems have quite a small /boot partition, I've had some problems
> >> with a
> >/boot partitions nowadays are mostly useless, unless e.g. you are doing
> >something
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Hi,
I want to add irc client to Debian. Happily, upstream author agreed to co-maint
with it.
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Severity: wishlist
Owner: Marco Balmer
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Version : 0.0.1
Upstream Author : Marco Balmer
* URL : http:://github.com/micressor/jabber-querybot
http://mentors.debian.net/package/jabber-querybot
* License
Steve Langasek wrote:
>On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 06:08:32PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
>> On Oct 13, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>
>> > Or on devices where the firmware / boot loader doesn't support large
>> > disks, or only limited filesystems etc. Please don't ignore other
>> > people's use cases.
>> Ca
Josh Triplett wrote:
> ...which produce output to somewhere other than a log file, in some
> scenario other than "being buggy and accidentally producing output", and
> which expect end users to read their output, and which therefore expect
> that the end user has configured root's mail to go somewh
On Oct 13, Luk Claes wrote:
> Isn't this what the whole thread is about: ignoring other people's use
> cases?
I do not know what it is for you. For me, it is about understanding the
impact on Debian of implementing this.
I have received interesting replies which address valid issues, like the
nee
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:17:38AM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
> * Josh Triplett [111013 05:51]:
> > Users can easily install an MTA; why do they need one *by default* on
> > every Debian system they install?
>
> Because the system is not in a useful state without. If you want to
> cripple you
Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> Bob Proulx wrote:
> > Doesn't popcon itself send reports by email? Meaning that 100% of all
> > reports from popcon have an MTA installed?
>
> No, popcon can also report through HTTP.
Ah... Very good. I stand corrected. And what's more, looking it
over it appears that
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:02:11PM +0200, Luca Capello wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 05:34:52 +0200, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > Bjørn Mork wrote:
> >> Josh Triplett writes:
> >>> Have I missed any important points?
> >>
> >> You forgot to explain the upside, reason, why, gain, whatever.
> >
> > Re-r
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* License : AGPL
Programming Lang: Perl, Python, Asterisk
Description
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 06:08:32PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Oct 13, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > Or on devices where the firmware / boot loader doesn't support large
> > disks, or only limited filesystems etc. Please don't ignore other
> > people's use cases.
> Can you point me at some exampl
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Version : 1.0.0
Upstream Author : Jonathan Ledlie , Billy Odero
* URL : https://github.com/tangaza/Tangaza
* License : AGPL
Programming Lang: Perl, Python, Asterisk
Description
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:13:47AM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Luca Capello wrote:
> > I disagree on that, according to popcon we have 19.27% of users has
> > postfix installed, which could mean that ~90% of users has an MTA
> > installed.
>
> Doesn't popcon itself send reports by email? Meaning t
On 10/13/2011 05:12 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Marco wrote:
>> On Oct 13, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
>>> Some systems have quite a small /boot partition, I've had some problems
>>> with a
>> /boot partitions nowadays are mostly useless, unless e.g. you are doing
>> something stupid like a RAID 5 ro
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* URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/accessors/
* Licen
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 04:32:46PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove
>
> I am still not 100% persuaded that this would be easy to do, but at
> least I think that it has more merit than the old "move all to /"...
>
> How much complex would it be to implem
Luca Capello wrote:
> I disagree on that, according to popcon we have 19.27% of users has
> postfix installed, which could mean that ~90% of users has an MTA
> installed.
Doesn't popcon itself send reports by email? Meaning that 100% of all
reports from popcon have an MTA installed?
Bob
signat
On Oct 13, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Or on devices where the firmware / boot loader doesn't support large
> disks, or only limited filesystems etc. Please don't ignore other
> people's use cases.
Can you point me at some examples?
Excluding hardware which has been obsolete for many years...
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Version : ??
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Descr
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Severity: wishlist
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* License : GPL-2+
Programming Lang: Python
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Unico is a Gtk+ e
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* License : GPL-2
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Description : control XMMS2 with a
Marco wrote:
>On Oct 13, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
>> Some systems have quite a small /boot partition, I've had some problems with
>> a
>/boot partitions nowadays are mostly useless, unless e.g. you are doing
>something stupid like a RAID 5 root.
Or on devices where the firmware / boot loader does
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* URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/
* License : MIT/Expat
Programmi
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 04:20:33PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Oct 13, Stephan Seitz wrote:
- I think that the probability that defective hard drive sectors
will hit a small partition is less. So your „repair partition”
will probably boot at least in emergency mode with more tools than
an
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:22:16 +0200, m...@linux.it wrote:
Some systems have quite a small /boot partition, I've had some
problems with a
/boot partitions nowadays are mostly useless, unless e.g. you are
doing
something stupid like a RAID 5 root.
If you have a 30 MB /boot partition then just sto
On Oct 13, Stephan Seitz wrote:
> - I think that the probability that defective hard drive sectors
> will hit a small partition is less. So your „repair partition”
> will probably boot at least in emergency mode with more tools than
> any initramfs.
I can't see which tools help you if the dis
On Oct 13, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
> Some systems have quite a small /boot partition, I've had some problems with
> a
/boot partitions nowadays are mostly useless, unless e.g. you are doing
something stupid like a RAID 5 root.
If you have a 30 MB /boot partition then just stop mounting it and ke
On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 11:19 +0200, Luca Capello wrote:
> Hi there!
>
> On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:24:33 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > On Oct 12, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> >
> >> On the other hand, Debian has chosen against that and relies on klibc,
> >> ipconfig, etc. for early userspace and thus, t
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Description : ALSA configurat
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 at 10:17:38 +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
> * Josh Triplett [111013 05:51]:
> > Users can easily install an MTA; why do they need one *by default* on
> > every Debian system they install?
>
> Because the system is not in a useful state without. If you want to
> cripple your s
* Luca Capello [111013 12:02]:
> > - Starting a daemon at boot time, which slows down booting. This led me
> > to notice the problem in Debian Live: it took a non-trivial amount of
> > time for the boot process to finish starting exim and move on.
>
> I experienced the same in the past on non
Hi there!
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 05:34:52 +0200, Josh Triplett wrote:
> Bjørn Mork wrote:
>> Josh Triplett writes:
>>> Have I missed any important points?
>>
>> You forgot to explain the upside, reason, why, gain, whatever.
>
> Re-reading my original mail, you're right, I do seem to have missed
> c
In data Thursday 13 October 2011 10:14:17, Reinhard Tartler ha scritto:
> Note that an initramfs can be embedded directly into the kernel, so this
> wouldn't require necessarily any changes to your bootloader.
Some systems have quite a small /boot partition, I've had some problems with a
server
Hi there!
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:24:33 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Oct 12, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
>
>> On the other hand, Debian has chosen against that and relies on klibc,
>> ipconfig, etc. for early userspace and thus, the initramfs. I suspect
>> the main motivations behind these decision
On Do, Okt 13, 2011 at 00:41:43 (CEST), Bjørn Mork wrote:
> Josh Triplett writes:
>
>> What would it take to make this change?
>
> Changing the LSB. Or you need to keep the sendmail interface. Which is
> what mail-transport-agent provides.
Why does LSB need to be fulfilled in 'standard'?
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* Josh Triplett [111013 05:51]:
> Users can easily install an MTA; why do they need one *by default* on
> every Debian system they install?
Because the system is not in a useful state without. If you want to
cripple your system, just deinstall it.
> The main reasons to stop having an MTA in stan
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:46:19 +0200
Luca Capello wrote:
> Hi there!
>
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 03:18:04 +0200, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > The 30-35% figure for users who have removed exim still make sense,
> > though, to the extent that popcon numbers for a package with priority >=
> > standard can ma
On Mi, Okt 12, 2011 at 23:33:23 (CEST), Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Hello Matt Zagrabelny,
>
> Am 2011-10-11 11:21:30, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
>> There are good arguments in the following link (Marco provided it with
>> his initial email.)
>>
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMo
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 08:22:09PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
Other than tradition, for what reason do you put /usr on a different
filesystem?
- I think that the probability that defective hard drive sectors will hit
a small partition is less. So your „repair partition” will probably
boo
Hi there!
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 03:18:04 +0200, Josh Triplett wrote:
> The 30-35% figure for users who have removed exim still make sense,
> though, to the extent that popcon numbers for a package with priority >=
> standard can make sense.
>
> In any case, I didn't intend the popcon numbers as any
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