Le lundi 27 mai 2013 à 20:28 -0400, Ryan Kavanagh a écrit :
> In coordination with Norbert Preining, I propose a MBF against all
> packages depending on or build-depending on texi2html, asking them to
> transition from the `texi2html' utility to the `makeinfo' utility from
> the texinfo package, wi
On 05/24/2013 04:23 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 05/24/2013 02:19 PM, Svante Signell wrote:
>> What is the status of packaging OpenRC for Debian? Is there a group
>> doing that, is help needed?
>
> Ok, if you ask...
>
> Currently, the package can build and install, at least on Linux flavors
> o
In addition to determining the MTA pulled in by default for packages
which require mail-transport-agent in order to function (the provider of
default-mta), I'd like to propose as a release goal that we not have any
MTA in standard anymore. I've actually worked towards this goal for a
while now, an
Steve Langasek writes:
> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:58:13AM -0700, Nikolaus Rath wrote:
>> As I said, there isn't a bug anywhere here. Once you understand what's
>> going on, this all makes sense. But I don't consider this a very good
>> design.
>
> Well, I don't think it's a bad design that third
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Ryan Kavanagh wrote:
> In coordination with Norbert Preining, I propose a MBF against all
> packages depending on or build-depending on texi2html, asking them to
> transition from the `texi2html' utility to the `makeinfo' utility from
> the texinfo package, with th
Jay Berkenbilt writes:
> Russ Allbery wrote:
>> Jay Berkenbilt writes:
>>> Ondřej Surý wrote:
This results in:
E: libgd-tools: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath usr/bin/annotate
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtiff5-alt
>>> Yes, I'm afraid that's unavoidable. This issue is mentioned
Now that we are done with systemd for the time being, can we have the
flame war about replacing Exim with Postfix as the default MTA?
Are there any objections other than "but I like it this way!"?
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In coordination with Norbert Preining, I propose a MBF against all
packages depending on or build-depending on texi2html, asking them to
transition from the `texi2html' utility to the `makeinfo' utility from
the texinfo package, with the end goal of being able to remove the
texi2html package from t
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:58:13AM -0700, Nikolaus Rath wrote:
> The only way to avoid this (at least at the time I reported the bug),
> would have been to recompile mountall to emit events with --no-wait (but
> I'm not sure what other unintended consequences that would have had).
Lots of them. T
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Juan Diego Tortul Batistuta wrote:
> Hi I have no sound, have a problem with amixer in (Debian 7 Gnome);
>
> in booting the error is:
>
> amixer : amixer hw : 0 : load error : invalid argument
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Hi,
On Donnerstag, 23. Mai 2013, Holger Levsen wrote:
> adequate
>
> sid-nodoc will also be the first suite to be completly tested with
> adequate [4] which from piuparts 0.52 will be automatically run if it's
> installed. http://piuparts.debian.org/sid/inadequate_issue.html shows
> some
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Hi all,
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 02:14:17PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 03:10:07PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > On Samstag, 25. Mai 2013, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> > > Actually, I believe there is. The Debian Edu blend contain the
> > > education-main-server task an
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 09:01:40PM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote:
> The idea would be to have a team of pasionate people who would constantly
> try to improve Debian as a whole and they would help the maintainers to
> triage bugs.
...
> > Perhaps the QA team is even closer to what you mean, but they
> >
❦ 27 mai 2013 08:38 CEST, Helmut Grohne :
>> At the risk of adding another level of indirection, we could add a
>> meta-init format that can generate an appropriate file for any of these.
>
> Are you aware of http://wiki.debian.org/MetaInit (packages metainit and
> dh-metainit)? That work was st
Le lundi 27 mai 2013 à 09:13 +0200, Ondřej Surý a écrit :
> I would be quite happy to write service files for two (systemd,
> upstart) or three (systemd, upstart, openrc) of those in all my
> packages[*], if it stops the endless flamewar here. I would also be
> happy to have the requirement to sup
Hi,
Thanks for participating, everyone!
find the results at:
http://people.debian.org/~stapelberg/2013/05/27/systemd-survey-results.html
Another discussion is really not necessary at this point. Quote from the
page:
I know this is a controversial topic. Please don’t start yet another
sy
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Em 27-05-2013 20:01, Ondřej Surý escreveu:
If we are to form the Debian bugsquad team similar to Ubuntu bugsquad
team, the main two questions would be:
1. As a Debian Developer/Maintainer would you be thankful for other
people to come and help with bugs in your package.
on l10n the approach is
Hi,
On Montag, 27. Mai 2013, Arno Töll wrote:
> Having that said, there are more jobs that team could take over, like
> handling bugs against "general", or against in-existing packages.
while in general (no pun intended) your idea is quite right, note that
currently http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bi
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Ondřej Surý writes:
>
> > I would be quite happy to write service files for two (systemd, upstart)
> > or three (systemd, upstart, openrc) of those in all my packages[*], if
> > it stops the endless flamewar here. I would also be happy to ha
Quoting Ondřej Surý (ond...@sury.org):
> You are most welcome to come, join the packaging team(s) and help triage
> those or any other bugs. (And I do mean it for real and not as sarcasm.)
>
> BTW there's around 2000 open bugs marked as moreinfo, the oldest is dated
> Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:03:03 UT
Wouter Verhelst writes:
> On 26-05-13 15:11, Holger Levsen wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Samstag, 25. Mai 2013, Nikolaus Rath wrote:
>>> For example: after some intense studying, I now fully understand why
>>> declaring a new upstart job C that depends on existing jobs A and B
>>> ("start on job-a-did-i
Hi,
On 27.05.2013 21:01, Ondřej Surý wrote:
> 1. As a Debian Developer/Maintainer would you be thankful for other people
> to come and help with bugs in your package.
I very much doubt, there is a maintainer in Debian who discourages other
people to triage bugs of their own packages. So yes, I su
If we are to form the Debian bugsquad team similar to Ubuntu bugsquad team,
the main two questions would be:
1. As a Debian Developer/Maintainer would you be thankful for other people
to come and help with bugs in your package.
2. Can we find enough volunteers to form such team?
The idea would be
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 07:30:20PM +0200, Stephen Kitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 02:59:24AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > Thanks for your work, but isn't it time we quietly got rid of this
> > library? Video memory and mode setting should be managed by the kernel,
> > not by appl
Ondřej Surý writes:
> I would be quite happy to write service files for two (systemd, upstart)
> or three (systemd, upstart, openrc) of those in all my packages[*], if
> it stops the endless flamewar here. I would also be happy to have the
> requirement to support two (or three) of them in the De
Игорь Пашев writes:
> 2013/5/27 brian m. carlson :
>> At the risk of adding another level of indirection, we could add a
>> meta-init format that can generate an appropriate file for any of
>> these.
> http://xkcd.com/927/
Also:
"All problems in computer science can be solved by another level
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Helmut Grohne writes:
> I'd like to add some bits from the doxygen point of view. Documentation
> packages created using doxygen currently have a number of issues with
> respect to size. Some of them are to be addressed soon(TM).
> * Packages shipping .md5 and .map files. Even though these file
Hi
>> BTW there's around 2000 open bugs marked as moreinfo, the oldest is dated
>> Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:03:03 UTC.
>
> For moreinfo bugs, you are not considered a bad maintainer if you send a "I
> will close this if you don't reply"-response after some time and then do that
> after some more waiti
Hi I have no sound, have a problem with amixer in (Debian 7 Gnome);
in booting the error is:
amixer : amixer hw : 0 : load error : invalid argument
hardware:
user@debian:~$ cat /proc/asound/modules
0 snd_hda_intel
user@debian:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
0 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 02:16:34PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Daniel Walrond writes:
>
> > As per policy 10.9 - Permissions and owners[0], opensmtpd requires
> > some system users for running non-root-privileged processes. I propose
> > to user the following dynamic accounts; opensmtpd, opensmt
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 08:38:44AM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 10:27:53PM +, brian m. carlson wrote:
> > At the risk of adding another level of indirection, we could add a
> > meta-init format that can generate an appropriate file for any of these.
>
> Are you aware o
On Mon, 2013-05-27 at 10:19 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2013-05-27 09:04:53 +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote:
> > I think I have never said the word "abuse", just "tiresome". The "I see a
> > warning from ucf, let's fill a bug on php5-common" finally overflew my cup
> > of patience (what is the corr
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 09:04:53AM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote:
> On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > He still files all upstream bugs with Debian, but I can't throw stones
> > there;
I do not think this is wrong. In fact, one of the reasons I like Debian, is
that I can report
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On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> Pointers to said discussion would be helpful.
http://bugs.debian.org/691148
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On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> While digging into this, I also discovered that there are a number of
> duplicate files, that could be reduced using hard links[1] without much
> effort. For example, in case of activiz.net-doc[2] 2% of the files can
> be replaced by hard lin
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Le 23/05/2013 09:42, Thibaut Paumard a écrit :
>
> Dear all,
>
> Despite all the efforts from many people, it's still quite
> difficult to get a fully functional Debian system on certain Apple
> hardware.
>
> I have been looking for a team I could
Hi,
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 03:10:07PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Samstag, 25. Mai 2013, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> > Actually, I believe there is. The Debian Edu blend contain the
> > education-main-server task and metapackage, which include a Kerberos
> > KDC. It also contain
On 27-05-13 13:30, Frank Mehnert wrote:
> On Monday 27 May 2013 12:45:27 Holger Levsen wrote:
>> On Montag, 27. Mai 2013, Frank Mehnert wrote:
>>> EFI in VirtualBox has definitely not the same level of stability as the
>>> normal BIOS. I would strongly discourage from publishing an EFI-only
>>> Vir
On Monday 27 May 2013 12:45:27 Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Montag, 27. Mai 2013, Frank Mehnert wrote:
> > EFI in VirtualBox has definitely not the same level of stability as the
> > normal BIOS. I would strongly discourage from publishing an EFI-only
> > VirtualBox package.
>
> so making it the defa
Hi,
On Montag, 27. Mai 2013, Frank Mehnert wrote:
> EFI in VirtualBox has definitely not the same level of stability as the
> normal BIOS. I would strongly discourage from publishing an EFI-only
> VirtualBox package.
so making it the default and moving virtualbox back to main would give this
ins
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:35:48AM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> > * Packages shipping .md5 and .map files. Even though these files are
> >small, there can be very many of them adding up to the installation
> >size for filesyste
Well,
each init system has it's proponents, so they can provide support (in form
of patches) for those tightly-tied package.
E.g. adopt an approach similar to our archs, setup some criteria[*] for
supporting the init system and either it can keep up and fullfil the
criteria or it won't and we dro
Ondřej Surý writes:
> affects bug-improve
I'd put such pseudo packages to a separate namespace. Some package
might, while unlikely, be called "bug-improve" in the future.
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On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Vincent Lefevre
wrote:
>
> On 2013-05-27 09:04:53 +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote:
> > I think I have never said the word "abuse", just "tiresome". The "I see
a
> > warning from ucf, let's fill a bug on php5-common" finally overflew my
cup
> > of patience (what is the co
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 09:04:53AM +0200, Ond??ej Surı wrote:
> > I have an idea ??? maybe we could have a pseudo-package called
> > "please-improve" (or whatever name we pick), where people can reassign
> > bugreports which they feel they
Hi,
On Saturday 18 May 2013 22:03:08 Felix Geyer wrote:
> On 18.05.2013 20:04, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
> >> However, Watcom is needed only for 16-bit code, and VirtualBox has an
> >> EFI mode. Would it be possible to restrict it to EFI only in main,
> >> unless the BIOS from contrib is loaded?
>
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> Was there any reason for the additional CCs? I saw no Mail-Followup-To
> or request for CC, so I dropped them.
>
> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 09:22:20AM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
>> Doxygen will use SVG for graph (collaboration, inheritan
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 09:04:53AM +0200, Ond??ej Surı wrote:
>> I have an idea ??? maybe we could have a pseudo-package called
>> "please-improve" (or whatever name we pick), where people can reassign
>> bugreports which they feel they are
Was there any reason for the additional CCs? I saw no Mail-Followup-To
or request for CC, so I dropped them.
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 09:22:20AM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
> Doxygen will use SVG for graph (collaboration, inheritance), SVG is
> AFAIK one of the best possible representation for
On 2013-05-27 09:04:53 +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote:
> I think I have never said the word "abuse", just "tiresome". The "I see a
> warning from ucf, let's fill a bug on php5-common" finally overflew my cup
> of patience (what is the correct english idiom for this?).
If you think you are distracted by
Hi,
On 27/05/13 at 09:13 +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote:
> On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Helmut Grohne wrote:
>
> > I find it depressing to see four init/rc systems, of which three are
> > mutually incompatible in every single possible aspect.
> >
>
> Just my two cents.
>
> I would be quite hap
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 09:04:53AM +0200, Ond??ej Surý wrote:
> I have an idea ??? maybe we could have a pseudo-package called
> "please-improve" (or whatever name we pick), where people can reassign
> bugreports which they feel they are unable to handle. This pseudo-bug would
> be monitored by som
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> I find it depressing to see four init/rc systems, of which three are
> mutually incompatible in every single possible aspect.
>
Just my two cents.
I would be quite happy to write service files for two (systemd, upstart) or
three (systemd
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 07:42:49PM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
>> On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Adam Borowski wrote:
>> > A while ago, someone raised the possibility of recompressing PNG files.
>> > Unlike xz, this would save space no
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Aron Xu wrote:
> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:42 AM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
>> On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Adam Borowski wrote:
>>> A while ago, someone raised the possibility of recompressing PNG files.
>>> Unlike xz, this would save space not only on mirror
2013/5/27 brian m. carlson :
> At the risk of adding another level of indirection, we could add a
> meta-init format that can generate an appropriate file for any of these.
http://xkcd.com/927/
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On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Ben Hutchings writes:
> > On Sat, 2013-05-25 at 10:41 +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote:
>
> >> I have no big problem pointing fingers on d-d.
> >>
> >> Example 1: Dan Jacobson
>
> > Often writes poor bug reports, but is not abusive.
>
> And his bug
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