Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 02/24/2014 04:29 AM, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Feb 23, Thomas Goirand wrote: > >> Marco and yourself are *a way* off topic. Please at least have the >> decency to rename the subject of the tread to "systemd fanboys flamewar >> yet-again bashing OpenRC just for fun" or something similar (but >>

Re: Bug#568303: can-utils Debian package

2014-02-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello Alexander! On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:44:48AM +0400, Alexander GQ Gerasiov wrote: > Thu, 20 Feb 2014 17:30:05 +0400 > Alexander Gerasiov wrote: > > > Sorry guys. I'm totally busy with other tasks last month :-(. As I > > remember your package is quite ready for upload, so I'll do it > > to

Re: Bug#568303: can-utils Debian package

2014-02-23 Thread Alexander GQ Gerasiov
Thu, 20 Feb 2014 17:30:05 +0400 Alexander Gerasiov wrote: > Sorry guys. I'm totally busy with other tasks last month :-(. As I > remember your package is quite ready for upload, so I'll do it > tomorrow (without my changes, just add myself as an uploader if you > don't mind). Ok? As Uwe is worri

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread heroxbd
Dear Kevin, Kevin Chadwick writes: > The benefit that Linux and even firefox etc. has gained from OpenBSD's > practically paranoid bug fixing as well as finding the bugs for all the > platforms it's userland still runs on especially in compiler tools > should be realised and not underestimated.

Balance of portability and maintenance burden (Re: default init on non-Linux platforms)

2014-02-23 Thread heroxbd
Hey Adrian, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: > That's correct. However, the problem with kFreeBSD is that I - as a > package maintainer - have to invest extra time to make sure my > packages don't FTBFS on these architectures as otherwise my packages > wouldn't be allowed to migrate to testing.

Bug#739921: ITP: iperf3 -- tool for measuring maximum TCP and UDP bandwidth performance

2014-02-23 Thread Simon Fondrie-Teitler
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Simon Fondrie-Teitler" Package name: iperf3 Version : 3.0.1 URL : https://code.google.com/p/iperf/ License : BSD-3-clause Programming Lang: C Description : tool for measuring maximum TCP and UDP bandwidth performan

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 02/23/2014 03:29 PM, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Feb 23, Thomas Goirand wrote: > >> Marco and yourself are *a way* off topic. Please at least have the >> decency to rename the subject of the tread to "systemd fanboys >> flamewar yet-again bashing

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 23, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Marco and yourself are *a way* off topic. Please at least have the > decency to rename the subject of the tread to "systemd fanboys flamewar > yet-again bashing OpenRC just for fun" or something similar (but > preferably: don't just do that in this list, and avo

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Kevin Chadwick contributed: > Perhaps before this thread spirals out of control I should should also mention this has been discussed on this very list already, though before I was enrolled and the following response went unreplied to. On the other hand and I doubt of sig

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Matthias Urlichs contributed: > One sample usecase where they dont't: "the system is wedged / overcommitted > and I need to terminate some services; guess I'll start another ten processes > to do that". Yeah, right. > > I'll be nice to everybody else here and not enumerate

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Kevin Chadwick: > Regex works just fine for me. > One sample usecase where they dont't: "the system is wedged / overcommitted and I need to terminate some services; guess I'll start another ten processes to do that". Yeah, right. I'll be nice to everybody else here and not enumerate any othe

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 02/21/2014 03:37 AM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > mkdir -p /run/openrc > touch /run/openrc/softlevel > > and then it still doesn't work as expected: > > root@howl:/etc/init.d# /etc/init.d/rsyslog start > * WARNING: rsyslog is already starting > > root@howl:/etc/init.d# /etc/init.d/rsyslog stop > *

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 02/23/2014 08:57 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 08:50:13PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > > http://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.php?packages=systemd-sysv+upstart+openrc+sysv-rc&show_installed=on&want_legend=on&want_ticks=on&from_date=2014-01-01&to_date=&hlght_da

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Kevin Chadwick
Perhaps before this thread spirals out of control I should re-iterate that what I said was cgroups doesn't pass the worth-it barrier for me and not that they have NO value. I also mentioned pgroups for those that do want this functionality but also want portability and not bugs in daemons on one

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Marco d'Itri contributed: > > But you aren't planning on running openrc at all, are you? > Who is? Seriously, would you mind stepping forward? If it was available I would use it but wouldn't be switching cgroups on or would be switching them off even if I hadn't bothered

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Matthias Urlichs contributed: > > Kevin, I don't think you understand the reasoning behind this. Again, > > the problem the init system has to solve here is being able to track a > > process with a 100% accuracy, so whatever automated mechanisms you have > > configured when

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 23:53:51 +0100 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Kevin, I don't think you understand the reasoning behind this. Again, > the problem the init system has to solve here is being able to track a > process with a 100% accuracy, so whatever automated mechanisms you have > configure

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 08:45:10PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 02/23/2014 07:32 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > > > >> On 21 Feb 2014, at 12:22, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > >> wrote: > >> > >> I agree and understand that this was the way to go back in the old > >> days, but we shouldn't

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 08:50:13PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > http://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.php?packages=systemd-sysv+upstart+openrc+sysv-rc&show_installed=on&want_legend=on&want_ticks=on&from_date=2014-01-01&to_date=&hlght_date=&date_fmt=%25Y-%25m&beenhere=1 > > sysv-rc wins... > > With

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 12:43:14PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > Since you aren't a user nor are going to be a user of openrc, I don't > see why you feel the need to critique it, especially on debian-devel > where the majority of subscribers are just not interested. Well. OpenRC was up for disc

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 02/23/2014 07:36 PM, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Feb 23, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >> But you aren't planning on running openrc at all, are you? > Who is? Seriously, would you mind stepping forward? > > http://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.php?packages=systemd-sysv+upstart+openrc&show_installed=on&

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 02/23/2014 07:32 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > >> On 21 Feb 2014, at 12:22, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz >> wrote: >> >> I agree and understand that this was the way to go back in the old >> days, but we shouldn't be using that on current setups. > > But you aren't planning on running openrc

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list. On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 12:47:44PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 02/23/2014 12:32 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > But you aren't planning on running openrc at all, are you? > > No, and I don't see any compelling reason why I should.

Re: SysV already works! Re: rspamd user/group for rspamd package

2014-02-23 Thread Mark Symonds
Hello, 'OdyX' (please use your real name?): On Feb 23, 2014, at 2:10 AM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Hi Mark, > > Le samedi, 22 février 2014, 21.58:15 Mark Symonds a écrit : >> Please stop. >> >> We can't win with all this fighting… I suspect there is SABOTAGE >> happening within the Deb

Bug#739869: ITP: python-django-uuidfield -- UUIDField for Django

2014-02-23 Thread Jan Dittberner
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jan Dittberner * Package name: python-django-uuidfield Version : 0.5.0 Upstream Author : David Cramer * URL : https://github.com/dcramer/django-uuidfield * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Description : UUI

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 02/23/2014 12:32 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >> I agree and understand that this was the way to go back in the old >> days, but we shouldn't be using that on current setups. > > But you aren't planning on running openrc at all, are you? No, and I don't see any compelling reason why I should. W

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 23, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > But you aren't planning on running openrc at all, are you? Who is? Seriously, would you mind stepping forward? http://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.php?packages=systemd-sysv+upstart+openrc&show_installed=on&want_legend=on&want_ticks=on&from_date=2014-01-01&to_da

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Jonathan Dowland
> On 21 Feb 2014, at 12:22, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > > I agree and understand that this was the way to go back in the old > days, but we shouldn't be using that on current setups. But you aren't planning on running openrc at all, are you? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-

Re: rspamd user/group for rspamd package

2014-02-23 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 2:23 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: > Consider using _rspamd instead to make any conflicts with local users less > likely. (You will need to use the --force-badname option to adduser.) I'll go this route: more aesthetically pleasing compared to Debian- prefix. Also, ps. I'm st

Re: Conflict between debian/upstream (DEP-12) & debian/upstream/ (uscan)

2014-02-23 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Simon, I have no idea whether you did follow the discussion but it would be great if you could submit a patch to the lintian check you recently wrote. The upstream files will be moved from debian/upstream (the file) to debian/upstream/metadata. Kind regards Andreas. On Sat, Feb 22, 201