Evgeni Golov evg...@golov.de wrote:
[eatmydata apt-get upgrade propagates to daemons re-started by
maintainerscripts ]
While pimping invoke-rc.d sounds like a good idea (and should be done),
I'd prefer the postrm pg_dump that is called from dbconfig-common not to
be executed with eatmydata
Zack Weinberg za...@panix.com wrote:
Matthias Urlichs wrote:
I also expect the Jessie upgrade to switch to systemd. Because,
frankly and strictly IMHO, doing anything else makes no sense
whatsoever.
This is exactly the thing I don't agree with.
I think _new installs_ of Jessie should use
Hi,
During Debconf14, I could chat with Joey about the future of Tasksel,
and having a More option task, which would lead to a new screen which
would propose more tasks.
Before anyone can implement this plan, we have to make sure that we all
agree on what kind of tasks we want to implement. What
Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org (2014-09-07):
During Debconf14, I could chat with Joey about the future of Tasksel,
and having a More option task, which would lead to a new screen which
would propose more tasks.
Before anyone can implement this plan, we have to make sure that we all
agree on
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:35 AM, Jakub Wilk wrote:
We should probably also monitor package conflicts. We made a big fuss about
node vs nodejs (and rightly so); but I bet that we have lots of other
package pairs in the archive that can't be co-installed for no good reason.
We have this already:
On Sat, 6 Sep 2014 15:56:23 +0200, Matthias Urlichs
matth...@urlichs.de wrote:
Marc Haber:
On Fri, 05 Sep 2014 15:12:50 +0200, Svante Signell
svante.sign...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 14:20 +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Thus, unless the user explicitly tells the apt{-get,itude}
Hi,
Quoting Paul Wise (2014-09-07 11:38:27)
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:35 AM, Jakub Wilk wrote:
We should probably also monitor package conflicts. We made a big fuss about
node vs nodejs (and rightly so); but I bet that we have lots of other
package pairs in the archive that can't be
Hi,
Zack Weinberg:
I think this strategy is positively _necessary_ in order to ensure
that systems currently running Wheezy can safely be upgraded to
Jessie. There are simply too many wacky configurations out there; it
If we do decide that a default switch is unsafe for too many systems,
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Johannes Schauer wrote:
would it make sense to extend this test and not only check whether packages
that share a file listed in Contents.gz can be co-installed but also packages
which access/change/create the same files in their pre/post-install maintainer
* Paul Wise p...@debian.org, 2014-09-07, 17:38:
We should probably also monitor package conflicts. We made a big fuss
about node vs nodejs (and rightly so); but I bet that we have lots of
other package pairs in the archive that can't be co-installed for no
good reason.
We have this already:
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Stefan Breunig stefan-deb...@yrden.de
* Package name: python-librtmp
Version : 0.2.1
Upstream Author : Christopher Rosell chri...@tanuki.se
* URL : http://pythonhosted.org/python-librtmp/
* License : BSD-2-clause
On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 12:18:08PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Hi,
Zack Weinberg:
I think this strategy is positively _necessary_ in order to ensure
that systems currently running Wheezy can safely be upgraded to
Jessie. There are simply too many wacky configurations out there; it
Package: general
Severity: normal
Dear Maintainer,
Recently I upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie only to find a very annoying bug.
There is no sound on headphones, however the speakers still work fine. I
googled for answered (purge pulseaudio, delete ~/etc/pulse, make sure alsamixer
doesn't mute
On Sat, 6 Sep 2014, Michael Biebl wrote:
Steve, as long as bugs like [1] are not fixed in systemd-shim, I'm not
going to make it the first alternative. Installing a half-broken logind
whould be a disservice to our users.
Uhm, did you read this subthread at all?
Let me try to summarise:
At
On Sun, 7 Sep 2014, Andreas Metzler wrote:
I think that is terrible idea, because it makes us release a system
that is lot less tested than it should be. If only fresh installs were
Nonsense. sysvinit must continue to work anyway, for various
reasons (upgrades, kfreebsd, the TC decision).
Am 07.09.2014 14:08, schrieb Thorsten Glaser:
On Sat, 6 Sep 2014, Michael Biebl wrote:
Steve, as long as bugs like [1] are not fixed in systemd-shim, I'm not
going to make it the first alternative. Installing a half-broken logind
whould be a disservice to our users.
Uhm, did you read this
On 2014-09-07, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
Surely, it should be an OPT-IN choice, not an OPT-OUT one? I'm talking
upgrades here, not new installs.
I had my systems painfully and transparantly upgraded to systemd. And
I'm happy it happens. Please keep it this way.
I do
Package: wnpp
Owner: Axel Beckert a...@debian.org
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: cleo
Version : 0.004
Upstream Author : Jeffrey Ryan Thalhammer thal...@cpan.org
* URL : https://metacpan.org/release/App-Cleo
* License : Artistic or GPL-1+
Programming Lang:
On 2014-09-07, Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk wrote:
I had my systems painfully and transparantly upgraded to systemd. And
I'm happy it happens. Please keep it this way.
I apparantly like pain. or maybe s/ful/less/ is the appropriate reading.
/Sune
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On Sat, 6 Sep 2014 15:56:23 +0200, Matthias Urlichs
matth...@urlichs.de wrote:
Marc Haber:
On Fri, 05 Sep 2014 15:12:50 +0200, Svante Signell
svante.sign...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 14:20 +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Thus, unless the user explicitly
Hi,
On Samstag, 6. September 2014, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
No. I expect them all to continue running just peachy fine and seamlessly.
I also expect the Jessie upgrade to switch to systemd. Because, frankly and
strictly IMHO, doing anything else makes no sense whatsoever.
On the other hand,
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org
* Package name: python-dib-utils
Version : 0.0.6
Upstream Author : OpenStack developers openstack-...@lists.openstack.org
* URL : https://github.com/openstack/dib-utils
* License :
Hi,
Chris Bannister:
If technically feasible, that would be a far better safety net (just tell
people to boot with init=/sbin/sysvinit if they run into a problem) than
an oh dear, it's so dangerous that we don't even install it by default
message. :-/
Surely, it should be an OPT-IN
Hello,
On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 12:51:53PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote:
* Paul Wise p...@debian.org, 2014-09-07, 17:38:
We should probably also monitor package conflicts. We made a big fuss
about node vs nodejs (and rightly so); but I bet that we have lots of
other package pairs in the archive
On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 15:30:11 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no
wrote:
You make the assumption that there's not been an tries to resolve this,
which is wrong. As for security, well, I have a keyscript that unlocks
my boot drive just fine, but handled through initramfs, not systemd.
Those tries
Hey.
On Sat, 2014-09-06 at 14:08 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
Steve, as long as bugs like [1] are not fixed in systemd-shim, I'm not
going to make it the first alternative. Installing a half-broken logind
whould be a disservice to our users.
Kinda strange to use *that* as an argument, while
On Sat, 2014-09-06 at 22:03 -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Sun, Sep 07 2014, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On September 6, 2014 11:30:11 PM EDT, Manoj Srivastava
sriva...@debian.org wrote:
I'll confess up front that I'm a neophyte when it comes to git. From
what I can tell though we've
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk
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* Package name: jarisplayer
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* License
El sáb, 6 de sep 2014 a las 2:18 , Ansgar Burchardt
ans...@debian.org escribió:
Noel Torres env...@rolamasao.org writes:
If you need dbus, you should Depend on dbus, and systemd should
Provides dbus.
Then, if Ann programs her Own Dbus Implementation she can package
it as aodi
(Ann's Own
On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 04:37:31PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
Hi,
During Debconf14, I could chat with Joey about the future of Tasksel,
and having a More option task, which would lead to a new screen which
would propose more tasks.
Before anyone can implement this plan, we have to make
On 07.09.2014 18:02, Adam Borowski wrote:
On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 04:37:31PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
Hi,
During Debconf14, I could chat with Joey about the future of
Tasksel,
and having a More option task, which would lead to a new screen
which
would propose more tasks.
Before anyone
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 12:37:12PM -0700, Cameron Norman wrote:
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:
Noel Torres wrote:
So we are clearly failing to follow the least surprise (for the user) path.
Should not logind depend on systemd-shim | systemd-sysv
Hi,
You have to ask Paul Bremer that. Me, I am merely a happy user. I did
grok it at one point, but I no longer recall that.
Manoj
On September 7, 2014 11:05:50 AM PDT, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk
wrote:
On Sat, 2014-09-06 at 22:03 -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Sun, Sep
Adam Borowski wrote:
Is there a page for LessTasks?
...
So let's start with trimming the list. This will provide some space for
choosing between XFCE/Mate/Gnome3/KDE/WindowMaker/fvwm/etc, which is an
important decision to be made at tasksel step.
This is (almost) exactly what's being worked
Hi,
On Montag, 8. September 2014, Steve McIntyre wrote:
This is (almost) exactly what's being worked on after discussions at
DebConf. By removing some of the less useful tasks, we'll be able to
add some extra more useful options.
so where's the commit doing what Adam described? The freeze is
On 21 August 2014 10:42, Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org wrote:
Adding ftpmasters in the loop to make sure they see your report.
dak sees:
python-openssl | 0.14-1 | sid | all
while the amd64 Packages file only lists:
python-openssl-dbg (amd64)
On Sep 08, Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl wrote:
Same applies to file server. This task installs nfs-kernel-server, samba.
Not owncloud or whatever. Both unconfigured. How is that better than just
letting the user install whatever file server kind they want?
What is SQL database?
On 8 September 2014 04:05, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote:
How does git-debcherry cope with the overlapping changes when generating
debian/patches? What can you do if it fails to linearise the changes
(as, apparently, it may sometimes do)?
I am not sure this needs to be an issue.
Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com (2014-09-08):
This is (almost) exactly what's being worked on after discussions at
DebConf. By removing some of the less useful tasks, we'll be able to
add some extra more useful options.
At some point it would really be nice to have a summary of what happened
On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 02:33:06AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com (2014-09-08):
This is (almost) exactly what's being worked on after discussions at
DebConf. By removing some of the less useful tasks, we'll be able to
add some extra more useful options.
At some
Hi,
You need to bag Ron, or pull from the hit repositories directly.
Manoj
On September 7, 2014 5:24:18 PM PDT, Brian May br...@microcomaustralia.com.au
wrote:
On 8 September 2014 04:05, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote:
How does git-debcherry cope with the overlapping
El dom, 7 de sep 2014 a las 3:45 , David Weinehall t...@debian.org
escribió:
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 12:37:12PM -0700, Cameron Norman wrote:
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org
wrote:
Noel Torres wrote:
So we are clearly failing to follow the least surprise
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Andrew Ayer a...@andrewayer.name
* Package name: strip-nondeterminism
Version : 0.001
Upstream Author : Andrew Ayer a...@andrewayer.name
* URL :
https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/reproducible/strip-nondeterminism.git
* License
peter green dijo [Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 01:27:11PM +0100]:
Jonathan McDowell wrote:
I would ask that DDs make some effort to help
those with weak keys get their new, stronger keys signed. Please sign
responsibly[4],
If you have signed someones old key is it considered responsible
to sign
Hey,
On 07/09/14 13:35, quang wrote:
Recently I upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie only to find a very annoying bug.
There is no sound on headphones, however the speakers still work fine. I
googled for answered (purge pulseaudio, delete ~/etc/pulse, make sure
alsamixer
doesn't mute anything
On 8 September 2014 04:05, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote:
How does git-debcherry cope with the overlapping changes when generating
debian/patches? What can you do if it fails to linearise the changes
(as, apparently, it may sometimes do)?
Just did some fiddling.
I have no idea
On 7 September 2014 13:30, Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote:
| I commit | Ephemeral gbranch contains | Master contains |
|--++-|
| B2 | A11, B12, B21 | D6 |
There are there nodes in the
hi,
no, I get one patch per commit, plus a fixup patch. no squashing.
Manoj
On September 7, 2014 8:53:04 PM PDT, Brian May br...@microcomaustralia.com.au
wrote:
On 7 September 2014 13:30, Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org
wrote:
| I commit | Ephemeral gbranch contains | Master
hi,
ill send out a concrete example when I get back home
Manoj
On September 7, 2014 8:41:45 PM PDT, Brian May br...@microcomaustralia.com.au
wrote:
On 8 September 2014 04:05, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote:
How does git-debcherry cope with the overlapping changes when
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