Re: inconsistent versions of M-A: same packages

2014-11-07 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi, Quoting Ralf Treinen (2014-11-07 17:35:06) > It just appeared to me that we probably do not have a syntax to pinpoint a > package built for a specific architecture. "We" meaning in this case dpkg, > apt, and dose (if I am not mistaken). No. We do have it. > The usual trick in dose would be,

Re: inconsistent versions of M-A: same packages

2014-11-07 Thread Stuart Prescott
UDD can help with this. A list of source packages that have M-A: same binary packages in jessie that have different versions in any two release architectures is at: http://debian.nanonanonano.net/qa/maskew There are currently 247 source packages in that list (assuming I've not done so

Bug#768523: ITP: r-omegahat-xmlrpc -- GNU R package for RPC over XML

2014-11-07 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
Package: wnpp Owner: Dirk Eddelbuettel Severity: wishlist * Package name: r-omegahat-xmlrpc Version : 0.3-0 Upstream Author : Duncan Temple Lang * URL or Web page : http://www.omegahat.org/XMLRPC/ * License : BSD Description : GNU R package for RPC over XML This (ti

Re: so long and thanks for all the fish

2014-11-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Ew. I've always thought you have been providing Debian with very sensible thoughts and guiding. Your wisdom will be missed. Wishing you the best. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian

Re: debian-devel-digest Digest V2014 #806

2014-11-07 Thread mh
On 11/07/2014 05:07 PM, debian-devel-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: Subject: so long and thanks for all the fish From: Joey Hess Date: 11/07/2014 04:04 PM To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I originally joined in 1996. We'

Re: so long and thanks for all the fish

2014-11-07 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Fri, 2014-11-07 at 17:04 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > but I'm out. Wow what saddening news :-( It's really a pity to good ones leaving... hope you'd reconsider your decision and come back after some break perhaps! If not, all the best and thanks. Cheers, Chris. smime.p7s Description: S/M

Re: so long and thanks for all the fish

2014-11-07 Thread Ben Finney
Joey Hess writes: > It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I > originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish > everyone well, but I'm out. Thank you. You've been a model Debian member to many of us, and I will miss your inspiration and clear-headedne

Re: customization of the kernel command line

2014-11-07 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2014-11-07 at 13:11 +, PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel wrote: > Hello, > > I am preparing a package for a scientific camera andor3. > This package contain a kernel module for the video grabber. > > >From the constructor documentation, I need to add the nopat option to > the linux command line

Bug#768508: ITP: gitinspector -- statistical analysis tool for git repositories

2014-11-07 Thread Christian Kastner
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Christian Kastner * Package name: gitinspector Version : 0.3.2 Upstream Author : Ejwa Software * URL : http://code.google.com/p/gitinspector/ * License : GPL-3+ Programming Lang: Python Description : statistical

Re: so long and thanks for all the fish

2014-11-07 Thread zlatan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 In advance sorry for all spelling mistake that I will write as I am writing from my phone and I am not a native English speaker. I am emotionally crushed by this. You are one of two DD's I interviewed for our LUG in Banja Luka, shortly after conf

Re: so long and thanks for all the fish

2014-11-07 Thread Charles Plessy
Hi Joey, among all the Debian developers you have been one of the most inspiring to me. I hope that you will keep your blog syndicated on planet.debian.org ! Cheers, -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: so long and thanks for all the fish

2014-11-07 Thread Josh Triplett
Joey Hess wrote: > It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I > originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish > everyone well, but I'm out. (Insert record-scratch sound-effect and sounds of brain rebooting here.) Thank you deeply for your work. It sadd

Re: so long and thanks for all the fish

2014-11-07 Thread Philip Hands
Joey Hess writes: > It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I > originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish > everyone well, but I'm out. I'm gutted. > If I have one regret from my 18 years in Debian, it's that when the > Debian constitution was or

Re: so long and thanks for all the fish

2014-11-07 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 05:04:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I > originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish > everyone well, but I'm out. > > Note that this also constitutes an orphaning as upstream of > debhel

Re: debootstrap and cdebootstrap vs systemd

2014-11-07 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 12:40:29PM +0200, Riku Voipio wrote: > > debootstrap --include and --exclude should work. > > Yes of course. If not there could be a --variant=sysvinit, but clearly > it should be possible to debootstrap without systemd. I'd say every --variant except the default should

Re: so long and thanks for all the fish

2014-11-07 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 07, Joey Hess wrote: > It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I > originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish > everyone well, but I'm out. Well, this sucks. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: so long and thanks for all the fish

2014-11-07 Thread Bjoern Meier
Hi, 2014-11-07 22:04 GMT+01:00 Joey Hess : > It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I > originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish > everyone well, but I'm out. > > Note that this also constitutes an orphaning as upstream of > debhelper, alien, dpkg

so long and thanks for all the fish

2014-11-07 Thread Joey Hess
It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish everyone well, but I'm out. Note that this also constitutes an orphaning as upstream of debhelper, alien, dpkg-repack, and debmirror. I will be making final orphani

Re: inconsistent versions of M-A: same packages

2014-11-07 Thread Wookey
+++ Ralf Treinen [2014-11-07 17:35 +0100]: > On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 02:46:31PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > > For this reason we should probably limit ourselves to all the interesting > cases of combinations of native and foreign architectures. The only > reasonable combination that I can curren

Re: Bad weather in testing ?

2014-11-07 Thread Simon McVittie
On 07/11/14 16:15, Ralf Treinen wrote: > There is only one package in the "each" category, and this is a false > positive due to multiarch: lib32nss-mdns, which exists only on amd64 > (this is why it shows up in the each category) and depends on an i386 > package, which is deliberate in this case.

Bad weather in testing ? (was: Re: inconsistent versions of M-A: same packages)

2014-11-07 Thread Ralf Treinen
Hi Holger, (repliying separately to the two pointes raised by you) On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 02:46:31PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Mittwoch, 5. November 2014, Ralf Treinen wrote: > > yes, you did miss something :-) > > first link on the page: "Non-installable packages" > > https://qa.debian.

Re: inconsistent versions of M-A: same packages

2014-11-07 Thread Ralf Treinen
On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 02:46:31PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > > 2) if you ask about co-installablity of packages with the same name but > > different architectictures (and which are M-A=same) : this is a completely > > different (and much more interesting) question. Since dose is now > > multi-

Re: Time for compassion and the Init GR

2014-11-07 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Sam Hartman dijo [Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 09:58:29AM +]: > > Early morning, Wednesday, November 19, the results of the GR on init > system coupling will be announced. > No result will make everyone happy. In fact, that morning, some of our > developers, users and contributors will be really unha

Bug#768471: ITP: pk-update-icon -- Displays an update-notification tray icon

2014-11-07 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Matthias Klumpp * Package name: pk-update-icon Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : Guido Berhoerster * URL : https://code.guido-berhoerster.org/projects/pk-update-icon/ * License : GPL-2.0+ Programming Lang: C Descript

Re: inconsistent versions of M-A: same packages

2014-11-07 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi Holger, Quoting Holger Levsen (2014-11-07 16:31:09) > > I agree with Ralf, that this would best be done not by debcheck but by a > > small script which compares if the Packages files for all distributions > > ship M-A:same packages in the same version. > > I'd happily run this script on jenkin

Re: inconsistent versions of M-A: same packages

2014-11-07 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Johannes, On Freitag, 7. November 2014, Johannes Schauer wrote: > but was your original question not about debcheck checking for multiarch > co-installability across architectures? yes, this was just a btw-question on the side... > I agree with Ralf, that this would best be done not by debch

Re: inconsistent versions of M-A: same packages

2014-11-07 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi Holger, Quoting Holger Levsen (2014-11-07 15:46:31) > On Mittwoch, 5. November 2014, Ralf Treinen wrote: > > yes, you did miss something :-) > > first link on the page: "Non-installable packages" > > https://qa.debian.org/dose/debcheck/unstable_main/index.html > > thanks! (+doh, I guessed I ov

Re: debootstrap and cdebootstrap vs systemd

2014-11-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 08:30:32PM +1100, csir...@yahoo.com.au wrote: > Apologies in advance. You really hit a nerve here. > > Kernel 3.7 was released December 2012. Debian project created a dependency on > this for the default init system roughly 15 months later. Which is fine, and > perfectly

Re: inconsistent versions of M-A: same packages

2014-11-07 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Ralf, On Mittwoch, 5. November 2014, Ralf Treinen wrote: > yes, you did miss something :-) > first link on the page: "Non-installable packages" > https://qa.debian.org/dose/debcheck/unstable_main/index.html thanks! (+doh, I guessed I oversaw these links on the debcheck pages and then didnt fi

Re: debootstrap and cdebootstrap vs systemd

2014-11-07 Thread Jean-Christian de Rivaz
Le 07. 11. 14 13:32, csir...@yahoo.com.au a écrit : Finally can I just re-iterate: these are not "old" or obscure SoCs; TI and freescale each have massive sales in CPU lines that don't have >3.0 kernels. The world's biggest Qseven COM vendor doesn't have an ARM board that supports >3.0 kernels.

Re: customization of the kernel command line

2014-11-07 Thread Osamu Aoki
HI, On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 01:11:51PM +, PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel wrote: > Hello, > > I am preparing a package for a scientific camera andor3. This package > contain a kernel module for the video grabber. > > >From the constructor documentation, I need to add the nopat option to > >the linu

customization of the kernel command line

2014-11-07 Thread PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel
Hello, I am preparing a package for a scientific camera andor3. This package contain a kernel module for the video grabber. >From the constructor documentation, I need to add the nopat option to the >linux command line. So I would like to know what is the proper way to customize this command li

Re: debootstrap and cdebootstrap vs systemd

2014-11-07 Thread csirac2
-Original Message- From: Riku Voipio To: csir...@yahoo.com.au Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-embed...@lists.debian.org Sent: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 22:36 Subject: Re: debootstrap and cdebootstrap vs systemd > If you choose an old Soc vendor kernel, you effectively choose to use old >

Re: debootstrap and cdebootstrap vs systemd

2014-11-07 Thread Riku Voipio
On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 08:30:32PM +1100, csir...@yahoo.com.au wrote: > "Don't accept old kernels" is almost equivalent to telling many > unrelated businesses in a particular ecosystem to burn their > investments and start again from scratch, just because the SoC and/or > board vendors have a broke

Re: debootstrap and cdebootstrap vs systemd

2014-11-07 Thread Riku Voipio
On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 10:00:38AM +0100, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > On Fri, 7 Nov 2014, Adam Borowski wrote: > > > You can chroot to the system from the host machine, and upgrade to sysvinit. > > If your host can't run arm code, install qemu-user-static and copy > > /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static to the

Re: debootstrap and cdebootstrap vs systemd

2014-11-07 Thread Paul Harvey
On 07/11/14 21:12, Marco d'Itri wrote: > Yes, your ecosystem is broken. That's your prerogative, but please do > not pretend that Debian has to support it. > Where did you hear me say Debian has to support it? I'm reacting to the whimsical suggestion that running a new kernel is just a matter of

Re: debootstrap and cdebootstrap vs systemd

2014-11-07 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 07, csir...@yahoo.com.au wrote: > "Don't accept old kernels" is almost equivalent to telling many > unrelated businesses in a particular ecosystem to burn their > investments and start again from scratch, just because the SoC and/or > board vendors have a broken business model. And that'

Re: debootstrap and cdebootstrap vs systemd

2014-11-07 Thread Paul Harvey
For what it's worth, some of the boards I work with aren't emulated by QEMU either. However, for me that did not turn out to be a problem for chrooting into my alien rootfs just to run apt/dpkg & friends. Qemu only has to emulate a very minimal/"thin" CPU environment when chrooting with binfmts,

Re: debootstrap and cdebootstrap vs systemd

2014-11-07 Thread csirac2
-Original Message- From: Cyril Brulebois To: Simon Richter Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-embed...@lists.debian.org, debootst...@packages.debian.org, cdebootst...@packages.debian.org Sent: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 10:45 Subject: Re: debootstrap and cdebootstrap vs systemd > You might

Re: debootstrap and cdebootstrap vs systemd

2014-11-07 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Fri, 7 Nov 2014, Adam Borowski wrote: > You can chroot to the system from the host machine, and upgrade to sysvinit. > If your host can't run arm code, install qemu-user-static and copy > /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static to the target system. This is no fix. There are systems Qemu does not emulate. de