Re: Xen support on Squeeze

2010-01-03 Thread Ben Hutchings
d to carry that patch without any upstream support (or sharing with Novell, which eventually released SLES 11 with 2.6.27). As a result, the xen-flavour kernels for lenny are very buggy, particularly for domains with multiple vCPUs (though that *may* be fixed now). Ben. -- Ben Hutchings The obvious m

Re: Xen support on Squeeze

2010-01-02 Thread Ben Hutchings
is more > secure > then KVM (or Xen) with QEMU. > > 2) I believe KVM needs CPU support, and this is not yet available on all > modern computers. It does require virtualisation extensions, but most x86 processors sold in the last few years have them. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Teamwor

Re: Intel 845G Card not working on SID..

2009-12-29 Thread Ben Hutchings
ot debian-devel. Run 'reportbug linux-2.6'. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings When you say `I wrote a program that crashed Windows', people just stare ... and say `Hey, I got those with the system, *for free*'. - Linus Torvalds signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: defaulting to net.ipv6.bindv6only=1 for squeeze

2009-12-29 Thread Ben Hutchings
lacklist the ipv6 module. There are far too many > programs breaking or doing stuff I do not want if it is loaded. I trust you have filed bugs on these applications? Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Reality is just a crutch for people who can't handle science fiction. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Bits from the kernel team

2009-12-22 Thread Ben Hutchings
grades if the ABI does change? > > Would someone care to explain to the rest of the project? Once we are finished with major changes to 2.6.32 (such as the libata transition) the ABI version will change from 'trunk' to '1' and we will then try to avoid unnecessary ABI cha

Re: Bits from the kernel team

2009-12-22 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 01:51 +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > Ben Hutchings wrote: > > Currently you can install kernel images from unstable or backports > > without any extra dependencies. I'm not aware of any significant > > breakage though some packages may rely on deprecate

Re: Bits from the kernel team

2009-12-22 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 19:39 +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 04:50:22PM +0000, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 17:22 +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Now that we have a 2.6.32 kernel in unstable, can you up

Re: Bits from the kernel team

2009-12-20 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 09:24 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > >> > OSS > >> > --- > >> > > >> > This has been a deprecated kernel interface for some time and will be > >> > di

Re: Bits from the kernel team

2009-12-20 Thread Ben Hutchings
to build a kernel. > > > > We will be rationalising this to two methods, an upstream merged "make > > deb-pkg" target and the linux-2.6 Debian source. Done. > > We will also be rationalising the kernel postinst and co-ordinating > > our efforts with

Re: Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-19 Thread Ben Hutchings
#x27;d be going > out on a limb to suggest this will be of benefit to far more people than > the number who'll need python scripts to use gdb. Am I? > > Really, what am I missing here? What you're missing is that gdb's scripting facilities were pathetic, and Python integr

Re: Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-19 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 08:25 +1030, Ron wrote: > On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 08:12:44PM +0000, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > Why would you install gdb on a (non-development) system, rather than a > > gdb stub? > > Maybe I'm missing something cool and obvious here, but in the part

Re: Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-19 Thread Ben Hutchings
f themselves a > quite substantial and needless extra bloat. They are considerably larger > than gdb is itself, and needing to put extra flash on a board, just to > install python, which the board itself will never use, hits a much harder > limit than an extra 4MB package in the archive wou

Re: SpamAssassin is run on Alioth, but its results are ignored

2009-12-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
attitude isn't well suited for an Debian developer. Try > be more helpful instead of sounding like a dick. If this was the first bug report from jidanni, sure, but jidanni is a regular bug reporter and really ought to have learned better by now. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Hoare's Law of Large Problems: Inside every large problem is a small problem struggling to get out. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Bug#560088: ITP: python-portio -- low level port I/O for Linux

2009-12-08 Thread Ben Hutchings
han it would have been in C. > Is there something that you want to package that depends on this? I do hope not; this should never be used in production. But it may yet be useful in hardware development. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Logic doesn't apply to the real world. - Marvin Minsky signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Bug#559774: ITP: modem-cmd -- send arbitrary AT commands to your modem

2009-12-06 Thread Ben Hutchings
/dev/ttyUSB0 ATDT123456 Which I can trivially can do with stty and echo already, no? Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Never put off till tomorrow what you can avoid all together. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Bug#559134: ITP: shc -- a generic shell script compiler

2009-12-01 Thread Ben Hutchings
ot to be kidding. Quite apart from the irony of a GPL'd obfuscator, this won't really protect sensitive information, and will only give its immediate users a false sense of security (just as DRM does to publishers). Ben. -- Ben Hutchings It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education. - Albert Einstein signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Linux image packages going to depend on python

2009-11-29 Thread Ben Hutchings
After all, it could make more sense to change > > from hd* to UUIDs or labels instead of from hd* to sd*, to compensate > > for the lack of stable naming of sd* device nodes. > > uuid, label, et.al do not work for VFAT or NTFS, do they? Of course they do. Ben. -- Ben Hutchin

Re: Linux image packages going to depend on python

2009-11-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
. libata presents ATA/ATAPI drives as SCSI devices, so hard drive partitions will change from /dev/hdX to /dev/sdX. In preparation for this partition, /etc/fstab and the kernel parameters in boot-loader configs should be changed to specify partitions by UUID or label name so that they work with both

Re: GDM, getty and VTs

2009-11-15 Thread Ben Hutchings
; on the net. Really bad > > especial for those who need them most - newbees. > > ALT-CTRL-F7 is somewhat of a standard. > > > It's already broken on fedora, at least. So if it's a standard, it's a > dying one. If Fedora jumps off a cliff (I wouldn't pu

Re: Cross compiler ITP (armel)

2009-11-03 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2009-11-03 at 07:31 +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Ben Hutchings: > > > You can disagree all you like, but I believe that the FTP team will > > currently reject any new packages that use source code from their build- > > dependencies. > > Surely this is no

Re: Cross compiler ITP (armel)

2009-11-01 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 02:34 +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > On 02.11.2009 00:00, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 23:14 +0100, Hector Oron wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >>I would like to do a little explanation on the ITP I have filled for > &g

Re: Cross compiler ITP (armel)

2009-11-01 Thread Ben Hutchings
ns actually used as additional source dependencies, and ensuring that these source dependencies are satisfied within each release, you should not use this approach. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance.

Re: Switch on compiler hardening defaults

2009-11-01 Thread Ben Hutchings
t; each operation instead of checking errno later). [...] In general you cannot rely on checking errno because it is not defined whether a successful operation clears it. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance.

Re: Huge lag between submitting a bug and replies

2009-10-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
can handle in a day is probably around 230K 22:28 < dondelelcaro> (there's about 1.5 hours left, and we're already at 197K) Ben. -- Ben Hutchings I'm always amazed by the number of people who take up solipsism because they heard someone else explain it. - E*Borg on alt.fan.pratchett signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Build logs from local builds

2009-10-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
at least one of the > architectures in Debian. :) It *usually* does. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings I'm always amazed by the number of people who take up solipsism because they heard someone else explain it. - E*Borg on alt.fan.pratchett signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Build logs from local builds

2009-10-27 Thread Ben Hutchings
el team then, because we do this all the time. Or you could think through your suggestions. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings It is easier to write an incorrect program than to understand a correct one. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of &qu

Re: usplash-theme-debian uploaded to sid

2009-10-24 Thread Ben Hutchings
nd/or 1400x1050, not 1440x1050. Add 800x480 and 1024x600 for the EeePC and similar netbooks. There's a diagram of some of the common screen sizes at: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e5/Vector_Video_Standards2.svg Ben. -- Ben Hutchings The obvious mathematical breakthrough [to

Re: Bits from the kernel team

2009-10-20 Thread Ben Hutchings
ion, but I'm feeding those patches upstream as well), and we do not carry out significant development of our own (at least, not in our Debian roles). Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Make three consecutive correct guesses and you will be considered an expert. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-

Re: Can not install both "brasero" and "lvm2"

2009-10-17 Thread Ben Hutchings
nstalled, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > Need to get 2,199kB of archives. > After this operation, 4,820kB of additional disk space will be used. > Do you want to continue [Y/n]? > > How to solve it? [...] dmsetup conflicts with devicekit-disks due to #545032 (closed, but repor

Re: btrfs

2009-10-07 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 11:51 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > That package is currently called firmware-linux but will be renamed > > shortly because we now also package the DFSG-free firmware from the > > Linux tree as firmware-l

Re: btrfs

2009-10-07 Thread Ben Hutchings
rmware-linux-nonfree doesn't seem to > be available so I can't use my e100 Ethernet ports (which are essential for > the test machine in question). [...] That package is currently called firmware-linux but will be renamed shortly because we now also package the DFSG-free firmwar

Re: LSI MegaRAID SAS 9260-4i and Lenny

2009-09-30 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 12:44 +0200, Niccolò Belli wrote: > Il 30 settembre 2009 03.32, Ben Hutchings ha scritto: > > It's in the Linux kernel already, but support for this particular model > > appears to have been added after Linux 2.6.26. > > Uhm... are you sure? Can y

Re: LSI MegaRAID SAS 9260-4i and Lenny

2009-09-29 Thread Ben Hutchings
t be backported into lenny? Maybe, if you file a wishlist bug against linux-2.6. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Who are all these weirdos? - David Bowie, about L-Space IRC channel #afp signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Copyright infringement on www.rossbeazley.co.uk — Overreacting?

2009-09-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 07:34 -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Ben Hutchings dijo [Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 04:14:45AM -0700]: > > The "blog" at <http://www.rossbeazley.co.uk>, which is hosted in your IP > > space, is a copy of Planet Debian <http://planet.debian.org>, ap

Re: Copyright infringement on www.rossbeazley.co.uk

2009-09-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 04:14 -0700, Ben Hutchings wrote: > The "blog" at <http://www.rossbeazley.co.uk>, which is hosted in your IP > space, is a copy of Planet Debian <http://planet.debian.org>, apparently > intended to gain keyword advertising revenue. > > Pl

Copyright infringement on www.rossbeazley.co.uk

2009-09-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
e.decadent.org.uk/blog - latest entry copied as http://www.rossbeazley.co.uk/ben-hutchings-debian-kernel-team-at-linux-plumbers-conference/open-source/). Copyright in each of these blogs remains with their authors. While Planet Debian has permission to copy each of them, the site owner (presumably R

Re: looking for kernel-maintainer

2009-09-08 Thread Ben Hutchings
INTAINERS file in the kernel source tree. It is also packaged in the linux-doc-$version packages. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Who are all these weirdos? - David Bowie, about L-Space IRC channel #afp signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Relation between Suggests and Enhances

2009-08-18 Thread Ben Hutchings
the application should not normally suggest all its plugins - some of them may be of very limited interest, and it should not be necessary to change the application package whenever a new plugin is packaged. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings

Re: Virtual package dyndns-client

2009-08-11 Thread Ben Hutchings
omment on this? If the virtual package name is to be meaningful, there must be some definition of what capabilities a dyndns-client provides to depending packages, e.g. a specific command and options. Does that exist? Ben. -- Ben Hutchings It is easier to change the specification to fit the progra

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 21:24 +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu Jul 16, 2009 at 20:16:06 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 20:25 +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > today ries (aka ftp-master) was down due to a sche

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
hould we > only relay on #debian-devel irc channel topic to know this? [...] This is what debian-infrastructure-announce is for (though debian-devel-announce might be appropriate in some cases). But there was no announcement in this case. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Unix is many things to many peop

Re: C++ symbol mangling difference between arches

2009-06-26 Thread Ben Hutchings
e inheritance and good style of C++ programming :/ So this issue is > important. > > So which way to choose: 2a or 2b or another? [...] Would it be possible to implement expansion to a regexp instead of to a string that must exactly match? Ben. -- Ben Hutchings 73.46% of all statistics a

Re: C++ symbol mangling difference between arches

2009-06-25 Thread Ben Hutchings
t a different symbol mangling, but different code. > qreal is a typedef to either float or douxble wrapped in a ifdef. This is *exactly* like the other cases, except it's not one of the standard C++ or POSIX type aliases. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings It is impossible to make anything foolproo

Re: C++ symbol mangling difference between arches

2009-06-25 Thread Ben Hutchings
tance would be represented by a back-reference ("S_" or "S" "_"), whereas on others they would be different and the second would be represented independently. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Xen - Source?

2009-06-09 Thread Ben Hutchings
ux dom0 code is in the linux-2.6 source package (as patches in the subdirectory debian/patches/features/all/xen/): apt-get source linux-2.6 cd linux-2.6-* debian/rules setup Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.

Re: stopped daemons starting again during upgrade

2009-06-01 Thread Ben Hutchings
restart daemons that's a bug in the package. If invoke-rc.d is not leaving daemons alone in run-level 1 that's a bug in it. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Logic doesn't apply to the real world. - Marvin Minsky signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Debian source code search engine

2009-05-24 Thread Ben Hutchings
xing. When I wrote a program to search through Debian source (without indexing) I recursively unpacked all tarballs. Note that there is a tar implementation that includes some weird tarballs as test cases. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Teamwork is essential - it allows you to blame someone else. signatu

Re: adding a new package

2009-05-21 Thread Ben Hutchings
fer. > Should i look for a sponsor? Yes, see <http://mentors.debian.net>. > Can i become a debian maintainer? See <http://wiki.debian.org/Maintainers>. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Teamwork is essential - it allows you to blame someone else. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Bug#527557: general: should have a help tracker for each package

2009-05-09 Thread Ben Hutchings
rflow.com/> Q&A format might be appropriate. I don't know whether the code for that site is available. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings No political challenge can be met by shopping. - George Monbiot signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s

2009-04-27 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 03:09 +0100, Noah Slater wrote: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:04:05PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > > Those MUAs already *do* the right thing when a user presses “reply to > > author” (sometimes just called “reply”): they reply to the author or, > > if the author sets a ‘Reply-To’

Re: Linux-libre for Debian Lenny

2009-04-26 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 21:41 +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:36:50AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: > > no point in posting that to devel announce. > > this work is pointless and has no review at all by the debian kernel team. > > Hi Max, > > At the risk of repeating myse

Re: Linux-libre for Debian Lenny

2009-04-24 Thread Ben Hutchings
on tables even though these are plausible preferred forms of modification. > As with any other Debian package, the best approach for adoption is to > get the patches adopted upstream so that everyone can benefit and we > don't have to maintain local divergences. Right, we're doi

Re: Linux-libre for Debian Lenny

2009-04-23 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 23:37 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > Ben Hutchings writes: > > > On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 20:32 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > > > I understand that this packages Linux Libre, which is somewhat > > > different from the Debian ‘linux-image’ kernel. Wha

Re: Linux-libre for Debian Lenny

2009-04-23 Thread Ben Hutchings
Robert Millan wrote: [...] > This is to announce that Debian packages of Linux-libre [2] are now available > for Lenny users who want to use them: > > deb http://people.debian.org/~rmh/linux-libre lenny main > > Archive key is attached in this signed mail; it is also available from: > > ht

Re: Linux-libre for Debian Lenny

2009-04-23 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 18:13 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: [...] > linux-libre goes further and removes even the request_firmware calls > for non-free firmware: > > http://static.fsf.org/nosvn/Alexandre_Olivia_-_Linux_Libre_-_LibrePlanet_2009.spx > http://groups.fsf.org/index.php/Alexandre_Oliva_%28LP09%

Re: Linux-libre for Debian Lenny

2009-04-23 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 20:32 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > Robert Millan writes: > > > The decision to include non-free firmware in Lenny concerns the whole > > project. > > > > Providing support for some of our users who would have otherwise been > > excluded by this decision is, therefore, somethi

Bug#524286: general: kernel modules does not automatically load

2009-04-15 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 01:04 +0200, Luca Boncompagni wrote: > Package: general > Severity: normal > > Hi, > I try to open this as and udev bug (#524276) but Marco closed it because he > think that this is not an udev bug. > > Yesterday, after upgarding my system (aptitude update && aptitude > sa

Re: tg3 firmware - was (Fw: [CASE#221365]: Closed - need firmware files)

2009-04-09 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 03:32 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Apr 10, "brian m. carlson" wrote: > > > I don't know about you, but I'd much prefer to modify any sort of > > program, firmware or not, using C or assembly rather than editing the > > binary directly. I suspect that this is the case for

Re: Missing licenses in upstream source files

2009-03-19 Thread Ben Hutchings
r see the full text of the GPL (any version) at the top of a source file? A reference to the licence is enough, so long as the referenced file really is included. I would recommend to upstream that they include a copyright statement (year and owner) in each file, though. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings

Re: Missing licenses in upstream source files

2009-03-18 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 14:20 +0100, Dominik Smatana wrote: > Hello, > > there are missing licenses in some source files in upstream project > I'm packaging for Debian. > > There is just license in the "main" source file. > > Is it fine? > > Or should I edit these files and add missing licenses (

Re: Bug#520053: ITP: jkmeter -- Jkmeter is a horizontal or vertical audio bargraph level meter

2009-03-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
ch audio sources does it work with (looks like JACK)? If a GUI component, which toolkit does it work with? > (Jkmeter is a horizontal or vertical bargraph level > meter based on the ideas of mastering guru Bob Katz. > See <http://www.digido.com/bob-katz/index.php> and 404 Ben. -- Be

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 22:25 +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 01:08:04PM +0100, Bjørn Mork wrote: [...] > > I fail to see the value of removing mii-tool. I'd rather see just the > > non-working features removed in favour of an ethtool recommendati

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
I'm not the only one... You can do this with ethtool now, and more cleanly: link-speed 100 link-duplex full > I fail to see the value of removing mii-tool. I'd rather see just the > non-working features removed in favour of an ethtool recommendation. It do

Re: Bug#466550: Pristine source from upstream VCS repository

2009-03-15 Thread Ben Hutchings
3 opts="filenamemangle=s/.*\?rev=(\d+).*/sgt-puzzles_$1.orig.tar.gz/,downloadurlmangl...@.*\?rev=(\d+)@http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/puzzles-r$1.tar.gz@"; \ http://svn.tartarus.org/sgt/puzzles/ /sgt\?rev=(\d+)\&view=rev OK, so it's not exactly pretty... Ben.

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-15 Thread Ben Hutchings
the information mii-tool does (#511392). I hope to submit patches to the kernel and ethtool to fix this, though. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Absolutum obsoletum. (If it works, it's out of date.) - Stafford Beer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: One-time cron output?

2009-03-14 Thread Ben Hutchings
I think such a policy should be implemented by the cron daemon or by a common script, rather than by each package with a cron job. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Humour is the best antidote to reality. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Accelerated video cards and non-free firmware

2009-03-10 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 08:46 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Mar 10, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > The firmware used for 3D acceleration in the r128 (ATI Rage 128), radeon > > (ATI Radeon) and mga (Matrox G200/G400/G550) drivers is non-free and > > will be moved from th

Re: Accelerated video cards and non-free firmware

2009-03-09 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 16:28 -0500, Daniel Dickinson wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking at getting a video card, and I want to know what video card > that has 3D acceleration to get. Normally I'd ask on -users but as the > subject says I want to know what video cards will still have > acceleration when

Re: Bug#517790: ITP: mydns -- DNS server using MySQL or PostgreSQL for data storage

2009-03-02 Thread Ben Hutchings
a user has to choose between. If the package is redundant, this is a waste of their time. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Logic doesn't apply to the real world. - Marvin Minsky -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Making some tags mandatory

2009-03-01 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 02:42 +0100, Carsten Hey wrote: > Deborphan needs a way to detect shared libraries like the ones currently > in section libs and distinguish them from packages which are technically > shared libraries but can not assumed to be orphaned when no other > package depends on them.

Re: Upcoming Section changes in the archive

2009-02-27 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 21:24 +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > >> video > > mplayer* > > That is already in. > > > vswitch* > > No hit for this match?! Holger probably meant dvswitch. Which is in NEW, anyway. Ben. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: handling group membership in and outside d-i

2009-02-26 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 08:31 +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: > On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Roger Leigh wrote: > > > HAL is just querying the group database directly. Any process can of > > course do this. But it's asking a different question, namely: > > what groups is this user a member of in the group d

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-02-25 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 09:28 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: > >xcdroast is looking for cdrecord, which does no longer exist in Debian > >Sid (apparently). And wodim does no longer provide a symlink as cdrecord > >or something (apparently). > > >So: xcdroast does no longer work. Who is to blame (Bu

Re: Should 32-bit apps work with a 64-bit kernel?

2009-02-08 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2009-02-08 at 10:46 +, Jörg Sommer wrote: > Hi, > > I have the bug report #489917 that complains that Jed can't handle > 64‐bit kernel structures. In this special case, the stat() return with > EOVERFLOW Value too large to be stored in data type. Jed was compiled for > a 32‐bit kernel

Re: Kernel legacy

2009-02-01 Thread Ben Hutchings
table/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#s-newkernel>, <http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#s-incompatible-2.4>. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings friends: People who know you well, but like you anyway. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Override changes standard -> optional

2009-01-02 Thread Ben Hutchings
IO. So I would suggest you stick with ethtool. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings The world is coming to an end. Please log off. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Override changes standard -> optional

2009-01-02 Thread Ben Hutchings
d. (For historical reasons it used to be extra; it has now been upgraded to optional.) Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Lowery's Law: If it jams, force it. If it breaks, it needed replacing anyway. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: The firmware GR

2008-12-15 Thread Ben Hutchings
other than moving support for > > these chips to non-free when the patches are applied. Any other delay is > > self-imposed. > > Unfortunately you forgot to also mention this bug for instance: > > http://bugs.debian.org/494120 There's no reason to think that the

Re: The firmware GR

2008-12-15 Thread Ben Hutchings
e had very little testing. Some of the testing showed serious bugs, which I believe I have now fixed, but others may well still be present. Again, for anyone who wants to test the latest versions of these patches (which I have not mailed individually to the bugs, sorry), see http://people.debian.

Re: Game servers in /usr/games or /usr/sbin

2008-12-01 Thread Ben Hutchings
; > > > Maybe another can be opened for moving the binary to /usr/sbin, > > depending on what this discussion gives > > Why should the server be in roots path? Games should never be run as > root. [...] This is just as true for many other network servers, but by co

Re: [php-maint] Bug#341420: marked as done (code in exts/dbase is not DFSG-free)

2008-11-30 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 18:45 -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: > [I would appreciate if you respected the CoC] > > 2008/11/30 Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [...] > > > > php5 had an RC bug open with an obvious fix available for 3 weeks. The > > What looks

Re: [php-maint] Bug#341420: marked as done (code in exts/dbase is not DFSG-free)

2008-11-30 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 05:56:39PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > [...] > > Urgency: low > > Maintainer: Debian PHP Maintainers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Changed-By: Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Descri

Re: what about a unofficial public community repo?

2008-11-29 Thread Ben Hutchings
slow sponsorship process. Unless the uploaders are in some way trusted (and NMs are, by definition, not yet trusted by the project as a whole) then the packages should not be autobuilt (you can run arbitrary code on the buildds) or in any way presented as trustworthy. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Any smoothly functioning technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: SmellyWerewolf.com perfume & make-up discount

2008-11-24 Thread Ben Hutchings
is that it is protesting perceived misuse of d-d-a with deliberate misuse of d-d-a. Such hypocrisy is not very constructive. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Any smoothly functioning technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Sun RPC libraries and other stories

2008-11-17 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 01:33 +, Simon Phipps wrote: > Try OpenGrok: http://src.opensolaris.org/source/ The documentation for portmap says that some code is derived from "the RPCSRC 4.0 and the TIRPC source distributions". The two source files labelled with Sun copyright are portmap.c and from

Re: DFSG violations in Lenny: new proposal

2008-11-11 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 08:30 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Mon, Nov 10 2008, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > So far as I can see, the only significant difference between #5 and #2 > > (or #3) is the requirement that upstream distributes "under a license > >

Re: canonical list of port-specific CPP symbols

2008-11-11 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 01:22 -0600, Steve M. Robbins wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a canonical list of symbols defined by each of the > Debian architectures, e.g. do I test for Sparc using > __sparc or __sparc__ ? How about m68k, hppa, etc? > > My first guess was that would be contained on http://po

Re: screenshots.debian.net goes beta

2008-11-10 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 00:20 +0900, Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:11 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > - You state that screenshot will be released under the same term of > > the screenshot-ed package, why so? It seems to me rather arbitrary > > and makes

Re: DFSG violations in Lenny: new proposal

2008-11-10 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 16:25 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: [...] > ,[ Proposal 2: allow Lenny to release with proprietary firmware ] [...] > | 4. We give priority to the timely release of Lenny over sorting every > | bit out; for this reason, we will treat removal of sourceless > | fir

Re: DFSG violations in Lenny: Summarizing the choices

2008-11-08 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 00:39 +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: > On Sat, 08 Nov 2008, Theodore Tso wrote: > > >Fortunately for us, at the > > moment I am not aware of large numbers of highly popular laptops or > > servers for which non-free firmware is necess

Re: Leverage in licensing discussions

2008-11-07 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 20:28 +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Being in favor of open-sourcing firmwares (including those controlling > > critical security devices in cars) does not mean being in favor of > > letting

Re: Leverage in licensing discussions

2008-11-07 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 18:27 +, David Given wrote: > Josselin Mouette wrote: > [...] > > Or so you think. There are people who can read assembly and hex just as > > easily as I read C sources. It would probably take only a few days of > > testing for a hacker with the appropriate skills to remov

Re: How to stop building libv4l on non-Linux architectures

2008-11-03 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 14:16 +0100, Gregor Jasny wrote: > Hi, > > I'm the maintainer of libv4l which passed the new queue yesterday. > Obviously the package build failed on non-Linux architectures [1]. How > do I handle this situation? Should I list all supported architectures in > the control fi

Re: [DRAFT] resolving DFSG violations

2008-10-30 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:42:56PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2008-10-29 00:39:40, schrieb Ben Hutchings: > > How exactly do you propose to load the firmware, if not through a JTAG > > port? Back in the world of production hardware which Debian runs on, > > ASICs

Re: [DRAFT] resolving DFSG violations

2008-10-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 18:01 +0100, David Weinehall wrote: [...] > Please try to explain to a hardware manufacturer that free their > hardware will only work with free software if they store their firmware > on an eeprom, and they'll laugh you in the face (or possibly send you > off to an asylum).

Re: [DRAFT] resolving DFSG violations

2008-10-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 20:30 -0700, Jeff Carr wrote: [...] > For example, lets say you have a pci device. If you don't load the > firmware blob, the pins will just remain in an uninitialized state. > That is; the chip default. Programming in the firmware blob will tell > the chip how to work as a pc

Re: [DRAFT] resolving DFSG violations

2008-10-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 13:01 -0700, Jeff Carr wrote: [...] > In any case, all of this is theoretical; it's just doesn't make any > sense to change the manufacturer firmware blob. [...] It can do. Firmware has bugs, and many hardware manufacturers have an unfortunate habit of abandoning firmware af

Re: [DRAFT] resolving DFSG violations

2008-10-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 20:17 -0700, Jeff Carr wrote: [...] > If you did synthesize it, you might not have even "seen" it if you put > it on a cpld. Then you might have just thought you were "programming" > the chip. You have to synthesise *from* something, be that Verilog or VHDL or Handel-C. > No

Re: URGENT: Please remove my email from your web-page

2008-10-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 17:50 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Dear colleague, > > Could you please remove my email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - or the > short version [EMAIL PROTECTED] from all parts from of your web portal? > > In particular, I found it here: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-dev

Re: can a kernel in main depend on firmware in non-free to work?

2008-10-25 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 18:28 -0200, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > Hi again, > > I've been watching the discussion and the separation of firmware from > kernel sources with a lot of interest, but today it dawned on me that, > even if this project is completed, it wouldn't quite address the issue > of com

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