Re: Handling of removed packages

2008-05-29 Thread Franklin PIAT
CCing debian-dpkg for obvious reasons. On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 14:18 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 01:24:59PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > > The probably easiest way would be to make apt whine on all packages > > that are not available in any version at one of

Re: Handling of removed packages

2008-05-29 Thread Franklin PIAT
Hello, On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 14:40 +0200, Kai Wasserbäch wrote: > Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt schrieb: > > For some time now, I have been thinking about the problem of packages > > which are removed from the archive at some point, without an (enforced) > > transition to a new package name. Users of suc

Re: Handling of removed packages

2008-05-29 Thread Franklin PIAT
Hello, Make sure I think dpkg is a great tool.. home:/root# echo $(grep -c "dpkg" .bash_history)/$(wc -l .bash_history) 40/502 On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 05:06 +0300, Guillem Jover wrote: > On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 21:37:28 +0200, Franklin PIAT wrote: > > I suggest to modify d

[rt.debian.org #658] Re: NewInEtch / NewInLenny

2008-06-22 Thread Franklin PIAT
Hello, On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 18:55 +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > There used to be http://wiki.debian.org/NewInEtch but it's gone > without a trace, and I can't figure out how to ask moin to tell me > where it went. Does anyone know? I have rebuilt the page, based on : http://web.archive.org/web

Dpkg triggers and user experience, aka "How do I disable those triggers" side effect.

2008-06-27 Thread Franklin PIAT
Hello, Christian Perrier wrote a blog about dpkg triggers[1], titled "triggers: those great improvements Joe User will never see". He pointed out that it's a kind of great(*2) feature that will be unnoticed by end users. That's true, IMHO. The funny (and *angering*) thing is, those users who a

Re: Dpkg triggers and user experience, aka "How do I disable those triggers" side effect.

2008-06-28 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Sat, June 28, 2008 15:12, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Franklin PIAT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > >> That's true, IMHO. The funny (and *angering*) thing is, those users who >> actually notice triggers are likely to complain : >> >> "Why the Hell do y

Bug#489812: ITP: di-netboot-assistant -- Debian-Installer netboot assistant

2008-07-07 Thread Franklin Piat
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Franklin Piat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: di-netboot-assistant Version : 0.31-1 Upstream Author : Franklin Piat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.klabs.be/~fpiat/linux/debian/di-netboot-assistan

Re: Dpkg triggers and user experience, aka "How do I disable those triggers" side effect.

2008-07-12 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Sat, 2008-07-12 at 18:17 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:31:54AM +0200, Franklin PIAT wrote: > > i.e We should be careful not to add lots of new triggers for doing new > > stuffs, that eventually makes the installation to take longer. We can > > s

Re: Debian release versioning

2008-07-12 Thread Franklin PIAT
Hello, On Sat, 2008-07-12 at 22:45 +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * martin f krafft [Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:09:09 +0200]: > > I propose that we get rid of our r-releases and simply let the first > > stable update to lenny be 5.1, followed by 5.2, and so on. Also, madduck posted that comment on doodl

Re: Package management unsafe?

2008-07-12 Thread Franklin PIAT
Hello, On Sat, 2008-07-12 at 23:13 +, Joe Smith wrote: > Andrei Popescu gmail.com> writes: > > > How about distributing the Release files *only* from a trusted server? > The other attack I mentioned (the attack of attempting to exploit a flaw in > any > client that requests a security upda

Re: Package management unsafe?

2008-07-13 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Sun, 2008-07-13 at 16:19 +0930, Karl Goetz wrote: > On Sun, 2008-07-13 at 02:13 +0200, Franklin PIAT wrote: > > Hello, > > > > On Sat, 2008-07-12 at 23:13 +, Joe Smith wrote: > > > Andrei Popescu gmail.com> writes: > > > > > > > >

Re: Good communication with upstream is good idea

2008-07-20 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Sun, 2008-07-20 at 18:42 +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080720 14:57]: > > I think we should encourage packager to contact upstream with simple > > "hello!" message and he (or myself) should be part of active upstream ML. > > > > After all, we all are human.

Re: FHS and /var/www

2008-07-21 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 07:46 -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 13:26 +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 02:55:25AM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote: > > > > > Yes. My webservers tend to use something like > > > /srv/www//{config,cgi-bin,htdocs,lib,logs,blah,blah}/

Re: FHS and /var/www

2008-07-21 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 18:32 +0100, Stephen Gran wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Steve Langasek said: > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 02:55:25AM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote: > > > > > So you think it's a good idea to ignore the the sentence above? > > > > > > No, I don't think that using it as a de

Re: FHS and /var/www

2008-07-21 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 14:04 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, Franklin PIAT wrote: > > Can Debian satisfy them both ? Well... why not ! > > We already do. Someone who was concerned about such things could write > a policy-rc.d which checked to see whether a par

sysinf0 - website indexation

2008-07-24 Thread Franklin PIAT
Hello, I am working on a website[1], which purpose is let the visitor browse a _virtual_ filesystem, made of all the files shipped in Debian packages. Then view or compare the files. The problem is that google will never finish indexing the 10 million pages (not on my home DSL, at least)... My f

Re: Lenny frozen

2008-07-28 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 16:51 +0100, Martin Meredith wrote: > On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 17:15 +0200, Olivier Berger wrote: > > OK, thanks. > > > > I still am not completely sure about something : should only bugs > > of severity >= "important" be fixed (and uploaded to unstable for > > the "important" on

Re: Standard way to disable services

2008-07-28 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Sat, 2008-07-26 at 10:40 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 07:27:27PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: > > Steve Langasek wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 02:11:26PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > >> Le samedi 26 juillet 2008 a  13:18 +0200, Harald Braumann a ecrit : > > >>>

Re: Re: Bug#493645: ITP: nostromo -- small, simple, fast and securehttpd

2008-08-25 Thread Franklin PIAT
> On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 21:09 +0100, Kai Hendry wrote: > > Package: wnpp > > Severity: wishlist > > > > * Package name: nostromo > > * URL : http://www.nazgul.ch/dev.html > > Programming Lang: C > > Description : small, simple, fast and secure httpd > [..] > As has been sa

Re: Re: Re: Bug#493645: ITP: nostromo -- small, simple, fast andsecurehttpd

2008-08-27 Thread Franklin PIAT
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 08:43:16AM +0200, Franklin PIAT wrote: > > > For those who needs to choose a (light) webserver, this page is meant to > > gather pros and cons of each one : > > http://wiki.debian.org/WebServers > > > > (Contributions are welcome.

Re: Bug#493645: ITP: nostromo -- small, simple, fast andsecurehttpd

2008-08-28 Thread Franklin PIAT
Steve Greenland wrote: > On 27-Aug-08, 16:06 (CDT), Franklin PIAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 08:43:16AM +0200, Franklin PIAT wrote: >> > >> > > For those who needs to choose a (light) webserver, this page is >> mea

Re: Release Update: freeze guidelines, testing, BSP, rc bug fixes

2008-09-01 Thread Franklin PIAT
Hello, On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 11:46 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 08:01:29AM +0200, Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was > heard to say: > > Release notes > > ~ > > There is still quite a lot of work to be done on the lenny release notes. > > Coordination for this

[Fwd: Re: Release Update: freeze guidelines, testing, BSP, rc bug fixes]

2008-09-03 Thread Franklin PIAT
s it would be a trial for we can do for the whole wiki. Franklin [1] http://wiki.debian.org/NewInLenny Forwarded Message > From: Vincent Danjean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Debian Developers > Franklin PIAT wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 11:46 -0700, Daniel

Re: Anyone looked at Chromium for Debian yet?

2008-09-03 Thread Franklin PIAT
Mike Hommey wrote: > On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 02:13:34PM +0100, Noah Slater wrote: >> >> Has anyone looked at packaging Chromium for Debian yet? >> > I would advise anyone interested in packaging Chromium to not consider > it before Lenny release and help fixing the annoying RC bugs in > iceweasel/x

Re: NewInLenny wiki page (Relicensing)

2008-09-03 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 10:06 +0200, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > On 2008-09-03 09:27, Franklin PIAT wrote: > > Regarding the wiki page NewInLenny[1] and the possibility to reuse it's > > content in the Release Notes, I'm wondering what's the actual license > >

Lenny upgrade-advisor

2008-09-07 Thread Franklin PIAT
Hello, I've worked on an upgrade advisor tool for Lenny. The idea is to do some sanity check to then warn the users of potential problems (and also advertise some best practices). The example below should be quite explicit. It isn't finished. My roadmap include : * More explicit messages (!) * Ad

Re: Lenny upgrade-advisor

2008-09-10 Thread Franklin PIAT
Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > Am 7.9.2008 schrieb "Franklin PIAT": >>I've worked on an upgrade advisor tool for Lenny. The idea is to do some >>sanity check to then warn the users of potential problems (and also >>advertise some best practices). The exam

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-16 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 13:05 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Tue, Sep 16 2008, Julien Cristau wrote: > > > I just tried booting with selinux=1 on my laptop. I see errors from mpd > > related to /usr/lib/libtheora.so.0.3.3, from xdm starting my X session, > > from sudo reading /etc/resolv.conf,

Test Debian : Release Goals, Point release, Foo-n-Half...

2008-10-05 Thread Franklin PIAT
Hello, Debian receives quite some feedback from it's users. However some features that are system-wide probably deserve more attention (like most of the release goals). I've written a wiki page[1] which describes four typical scenario to encourage testers to activate some features (I've thrown so

Re: Test Debian : Release Goals, Point release, Foo-n-Half...

2008-10-05 Thread Franklin PIAT
Hi Thomas, On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 17:19 +0200, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > Hi Franklin, > > thanks for working on a page describing the various releases. > > I would like to object to your labeling according to "risk". Actually, when I started the page, the 4 levels were simply tagged "Low risk" to

Re: Test Debian : Release Goals, Point release, Foo-n-Half...

2008-10-05 Thread Franklin PIAT
Hi, On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 21:24 +0530, Kartik Mistry wrote: > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I have added note about Experimental. > > > > Please also add your email address next to it so that users can get > > support from you and don't burden the re

Re: Test Debian : IPv6 pitfalls ?

2008-10-06 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 20:25 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > On dim, 2008-10-05 at 16:38 +0200, Franklin PIAT wrote: > > Feel free to improve or comment them. > > Not sure if it's the right place to comment, but I wonder how can > “Enable Ipv6” be classified as “Medium R

Re: Test Debian : Release Goals, Point release, Foo-n-Half...

2008-10-07 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 18:10 +0200, Michael Banck wrote: > On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 06:02:17PM +0200, Franklin PIAT wrote: > > The page could have an "Expert" subpage (or let's name it kamikaze, so > > people don't get impressed by the name ;) > > Frankly,

Re: OT (Re: Test Debian : Release Goals, Point release, Foo-n-Half...

2008-10-08 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 09:26 +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote: > On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:02:17 +0200 > Franklin PIAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The page could have an "Expert" subpage (or let's name it kamikaze, so > > people don't get impressed by t

Re: Bug#501717: ITP: libnet-mac-vendor-perl -- Look up the vendor for a MAC

2008-10-09 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 14:54 -0500, Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > * Package name: libnet-mac-vendor-perl > Description : Look up the vendor for a MAC I'm currious on how many MAC-prefix to OUI we have in Debian... nmap: /usr/share/nmap/nmap-mac-prefixes kismet: /etc/kismet/ap_manuf wiresh

Re: Lenny upgrade-advisor

2008-10-13 Thread Franklin PIAT
/etc/kernel-img.conf is wrong." extra "$RELNOTES/ch-upgrading.en.html#s-for_next" fi #Done ! end_function "$FUNCNAME" } ### END ### On Tue, 2008-09-09, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > Am 7.9.2008 schrieb "Franklin PIAT"

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ‘lenny-ignore’?

2008-10-20 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 10:55 -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 11:43 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Actually, I think we need a GR on the lines of > > , > > | http://www.debian.org/vote/2006/vote_007 > > | General Resolution: Handling source-less firmware in

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ‘lenny-ignore’?

2008-10-21 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 12:56 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21 2008, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 07:30:23PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > >> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 07:16:12PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > >> > > >> > You cannot ask, so late in the release p

Re: How to indicate the license of our contributions to wiki.debian.org.

2008-10-21 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 15:03 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:56:43PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : > > > > Where do I record the fact that any contribution I have made to the > > web site or the wiki may be licensed under the GPL? > > How about http://wiki.debian.or

Bug#448208: ITP: amtterm -- Serial-over-lan (sol) client for Intel AMT

2007-10-26 Thread Franklin PIAT
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Franklin PIAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: amtterm Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Gerd Hoffmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://dl.bytesex.org/releases/amtterm/ * License : GPL Programming L

Re: Bits from DEHS

2008-01-26 Thread Franklin PIAT
Hello, On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 21:07 -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: > It's been some time since DEHS[1] had some 'big' changes (probably since its > creation). Here's a list of changes that have been done lately: There's now a wiki page about DEHS. http://wiki.debian.org/Dehs Feel free to improve

manpage : documenting /etc/default/foobar

2008-01-26 Thread Franklin PIAT
Hello, I'm writing some manpages, and I wonder what's the current practice for documenting a file like in /etc/default/foobar. On my laptop [1], only /etc/default/rcS seems to have a manpage in the section 5. The problem is that the filename is often the name of the package and/or the name of th

Re: manpage : documenting /etc/default/foobar

2008-01-27 Thread Franklin PIAT
Hello Colin, On Sun, 2008-01-27 at 00:10 +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 08:06:01PM +0100, Franklin PIAT wrote: > > I'm writing some manpages, and I wonder what's the current practice for > > documenting a file like in /etc/default/foobar. > >

Re: The 30 most popular packages missing in Debian

2008-01-30 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 10:48 +0100, Thibaut Paumard wrote: > > Perhaps a possibility would be to have a sort of "module-assistant"- > like package with a database of third-party, non-free software. This > tool would either install the third-party software on demand (like > googleearth-package)

Re: The 30 most popular packages missing in Debian

2008-01-31 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 23:43 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > Franklin PIAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Also It's important that we can tell our users "Debian 4.0, as of > > 2008-01-31 has flashplugin-nonfree version X.Y, skype version Z.Y" > > Som

Re: two dpkg-instances / invoking module-assistant on kernel-upgrade

2008-02-17 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 11:26 +0100, Patrick Scharrenberg wrote: > So, what is the best practice to recompile kernel-modules on > kernel-upgrades? > Any thoughts? What about postinst_hook in /etc/kernel-img.conf ? manpage say's "... A script to be executed during installation after all the symboli

Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections

2008-02-25 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Sun, 2008-02-24 at 19:48 +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Sam Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.02.24.1316 +0100]: > >I also would like to spend some Debian money on a contest, similar to > > the FreeBSD logo contest [2], to create a friendly mascot for the Debian > > project (in

Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections

2008-02-26 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 08:22 +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Anibal Avelar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.02.26.0805 +0100]: > > http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/Penguin_Fat.gif > > http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/Jhas.png > > http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/little_pinguin.jpg > > http://fixx

Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections

2008-02-26 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 22:02 +0100, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:36:32AM +0100, Franklin PIAT wrote: > > What about a bug... Bugs are our "pets" : we take care of them. > > Oh god. No, please, everything but not a bug as mascot. You'll be

Re: A suggestion

2008-04-03 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 15:16 +0200, Andrea Bolognani wrote: > On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 00:38:36 -0300 > Joel Franco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think that the testing or above releases may be suitable for the > > desktop of a EXPERT linux user. I need a stable release because my > > desktop must

Re: help required regarding bug - #436681

2008-04-07 Thread Franklin PIAT
Note there's a typo in Carsten's mail. The link is incorrect (#277944 instead of #277994) => http://bugs.debian.org/277994 Franklin On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 01:49 +0200, Carsten Hey wrote: > bug #436681 is already marked as closed, so you can't fix it :) > > If you need a another bug you ca

Re: percentage of popcon submitters

2009-01-16 Thread Franklin PIAT
Hi Noah Slater wrote: > On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:00:04PM +0100, markus schnalke wrote: >> I know it is not possible to _know_ the real percentage of uses which >> submit popcon stats of all users. But I want to ask for guesses, >> because more oppinions do likely improve the result. > > [..] is